Player Discussion: All purpose: Gold Medal & 2026 Norris Trophy Winner Zach Werenski thread (Rejects trade to DAL; May only waive for TB/TOR, maybe not at all?)

[ClevelandJacketFan]

Thought Zach would be reasonable. Just take Moser/Knies and get him off the team

 

[Banana duck]

Holy shit I hate this guy

 

[OldSoul]

I’m gonna guess he’s going to refuse to waive for anywhere but Tampa.

PPG player at Amalie. why not. (I still call it amalie, sincerely, a former tampa resident)

 

[LJ7]

Thought Zach would be reasonable. Just take Moser/Knies and get him off the team

Not worth it. He can expand his list maybe. Or he can come back and look his teammates in the eyes at training camp. He doesn't get to be a free agent 2 years before he's a free agent.

 

[ClevelandJacketFan]

Not worth it. He can expand his list maybe. Or he can come back and look his teammates in the eyes at training camp. He doesn't get to be a free agent 2 years before he's a free agent.

No.

Depressing an asset or getting nothing for it, or even worse, risking career injuries, is not worth it.

 

[OldSoul]

no wonder he said no to dallas. bum ass stats.

 

[AndBoomGoesTheCannon]

His list expands to 22 next year.

 

[LJ7]

No.

Depressing an asset or getting nothing for it, or even worse, risking career injuries, is not worth it.

Trading him to a team that has no other teams to bid against isn't worth it. If he had such a small list why didn't he disclose it? Why not give Don the opportunity to lie to other teams and drive up the cost? Werenski isn't playing ball whatsoever so why should we?

 

[ClevelandJacketFan]

Trading him to a team that has no other teams to bid against isn't worth it. If he had such a small list why didn't he disclose it? Why not give Don the opportunity to lie to other teams and drive up the cost? Werenski isn't playing ball whatsoever so why should we?

He doesnt have to.

But what if he blows out his shoulder again. Or hurts a knee? Then what?

 

[Fro]

His list expands to 22 next year.

Doesn't matter...if he won't sign, they won't pay up

 

[LJ7]

He doesnt have to.

But what if he blows out his shoulder again. Or hurts a knee? Then what?

What if we make a run? What if we get hot and win two rounds? What if his NMC goes away next summer? Now isn't the time unless Tampa or Toronto get crazy. We tried

Full NMC, no list given. What can we do?

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

F*** you, Zach. Talk about showing your true colours.

Ok keep him. Keep them both.

Figure out a trade next summer. We've got two years of control, don't stress trying to find a deal now, especially if he's not waiving.

Yes it will be slightly awkward. So was 2018-19 when we knew Bob and Bread were leaving, and that ended up being a great run.

I would be very curious to see how player and coaches handled that situation. Not gonna lie, if I was one of his teammates, I'd feel very inclined to punch him in the face first day of training camp.

 

[majormajor]

F*** you, Zach. Talk about showing your true colours.

I would be very curious to see how player and coaches handled that situation. Not gonna lie, if I was one of his teammates, I'd feel very inclined to punch him in the face first day of training camp.

We went through this with Bob and Bread and nobody got punched. Bob was erratic and it didn't really lead to any lasting problems. The team clicked when it needed to.

 

[Fro]

F*** you, Zach. Talk about showing your true colours.

I would be very curious to see how player and coaches handled that situation. Not gonna lie, if I was one of his teammates, I'd feel very inclined to punch him in the face first day of training camp.

Or drive to his house in the morning and ask him WTF face to face

 

[LJ7]

Doesn't matter...if he won't sign, they won't pay up

No one will pay up now either (again unless one of his 1.5 teams he's willing to go to loses their mind)

 

[Indy18]

F*** you, Zach. Talk about showing your true colours.

I would be very curious to see how player and coaches handled that situation. Not gonna lie, if I was one of his teammates, I'd feel very inclined to punch him in the face first day of training camp.

Coyle?

 

[ClevelandJacketFan]

What if we make a run? What if we get hot and win two rounds?

Then he leaves in a year

What if his NMC goes away next summer?

Where his value is much less

Now isn't the time unless Tampa or Toronto get crazy. We tried

We did try. We cannot put this back in the box. You cannot continue with a guy on your roster once you've traded them.

Full NMC, no list given. What can we do?

Trade him to someone who he will waive to.

 

[AndBoomGoesTheCannon]

Doesn't matter...if he won't sign, they won't pay up

Having a list of 1 team you will waive nmc for doesn't pay either

 

[ClevelandJacketFan]

Having a list of 1 team you will waive nmc for doesn't pay either

Then maximize what you can get and move on.

 

[stevo61]

We went through this with Bob and Bread and nobody got punched. Bob was erratic and it didn't really lead to any lasting problems. The team clicked when it needed to.

We absolutely did not go through this with Bob and Bread, what are you talking about? Ive disagreed with you alot lately but this one... oof. Bread was traded for and a was only here for 2 years, much more understandable. Bob gave us 7 years and was publicly questioned by his own GM. Werenski was drafted, developed, went through the Kivlenieks and Gaudreau tragedies and championed the whole "thank you for choosing Columbus when others wouldnt" and then quit but also handcuffed the team on the way out. This is not at all the same with the fans or the team

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

If his demand is to only go to one team via trade, the franchise should name the team and just publicly shame him and pull him off every picture, jersey in the store, etc. Give him the hotel rooms next to the ice machine. Use all the hot water in the shower. His pizza will be cold after the game.

Try to ruin any value he might have off the ice. At that point you are stuck so no reason to play nice and treat him professionally.

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

The idea of a nice return to help turn the team around may be dead sadly then. Knies doesn't impress me, Tampa has nothing to give really besides Moser.

Moser, Geekie, O'Reilly and a couple other forward prospects. Strip mine them.

 

[LJ7]

Moser, Geekie, O'Reilly and a couple other forward prospects. Strip mine them.

Even that is not even close to fair value for a Norris winner

 

[GoJackets1]

Guess we’ll see him in training camp. I am actually f***ing shocked he’d veto Dallas.

And yet somehow, Toronto is still showing up as a preferred destination? What the f***?

 

[MissADD]

We went through this with Bob and Bread and nobody got punched. Bob was erratic and it didn't really lead to any lasting problems. The team clicked when it needed to.

Except it with those 2 they did it in the final year of their deals and they were really kept private-ish. We knew Bob had issues with Jarmo but he never strong-armed the team into doing his bidding. Plus they weren't championing the city and the franchise. Losing those 2 sucked, but this is getting spit in the face while getting kicked in the nuts.