Toggle sidebar

Player Discussion All Purpose Goaltending Thread

  • Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
Fjordy said:
But are deals still possible? There are players who have been on the block for a long time or who need a change of scene right now, there are already teams for sure who would like to little shake up a bit if they started badly. Again, I think small trades are still real.
Click to expand...

I'd love a list of goalies who are an improvement on what we have, and are on the block without an overpay (or even with an overpay). Same with a vet D. Know that if they are even available they will come with a big contract. Is Bobrovsky better than our goalies now? I bet Adams could make that happen. You want that $10 million a year contract?
 
Dingo44 said:
I'd love a list of goalies who are an improvement on what we have, and are on the block without an overpay (or even with an overpay). Same with a vet D. Know that if they are even available they will come with a big contract. Is Bobrovsky better than our goalies now? I bet Adams could make that happen. You want that $10 million a year contract?
Click to expand...
Where did I say about goalies? You can look at my posts on this thread and I said there that a good goaltender is hard to get now and probably it should be off-season. Bob, by the way, might be not bad option, but not with this contract and Florida has almost nothing to sweeten trade.

Defenseman fro third pair is easier to get, I have no doubt about it, there are teams that need to clear their caps or players who need a change of scenery. Also, there are teams that rebuild.

As for the forwards, there are also players who need a change of scenery and teams with poor PP who lack a shooter. Olofsson would make sense.
 
Jim Bob said:
Possible and probable or likely are two completely different things.

It is possible that Adams could make a trade soon to improve the team. I would not say that it is likely to occur given that we are in one of the dead periods with respect to player movement in the NHL league year.

There are certain windows where moves are probable. This is not one of them.
Click to expand...

This is also the time of year when GMs don’t really like to do trades, if only so players don’t have to uproot their families around the holidays.
 
  • Like
Reactions: michaelsaas
Chainshot said:
Goaltending wise? I'm not sure. We've seen them gather and then squander player goodwill in the recent past. If they start dialing in their PK to be at least league average, it might make someone interested next year in being part of a bridge to whatever is next. But that would also be a shift in the GM's stated outcome of not blocking Levi.
Click to expand...

Looking ahead briefly...........there are some older guys who might consider a 1 or 2 year deal to be the bridge and provide Anderson-like veteran influence on the room (Quick, AndersEn, Talbot, Reimer). The problem is that I'm pretty sure UPL loses his waiver exemption next year. And what if Portillo decides to actually sign with Buffalo?

I know Adams' line is that he doesn't want to block Levi, but I'm not sure he's taking into account Levi's usual MO of taking his time. Twice now he's made a decision to stay at a level when he could have (should have?) made a move up in level. There's a real chance that he will prefer to play at least a year if not two in Rochester before coming to the NHL. He's an odd bird that way.

We're in such an odd situation right now with the goalies. Some of it is of course self-inflicted. But there's no easy answer right now. (No, "trade for a goalie" isn't an easy answer)
 
I like Reimer. Cheap had and never save percentage under 900. Why not?

Not long term solution but better than playing UPL.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Der Jaeger
Zman5778 said:
Looking ahead briefly...........there are some older guys who might consider a 1 or 2 year deal to be the bridge and provide Anderson-like veteran influence on the room (Quick, AndersEn, Talbot, Reimer). The problem is that I'm pretty sure UPL loses his waiver exemption next year. And what if Portillo decides to actually sign with Buffalo?

I know Adams' line is that he doesn't want to block Levi, but I'm not sure he's taking into account Levi's usual MO of taking his time. Twice now he's made a decision to stay at a level when he could have (should have?) made a move up in level. There's a real chance that he will prefer to play at least a year if not two in Rochester before coming to the NHL. He's an odd bird that way.

We're in such an odd situation right now with the goalies. Some of it is of course self-inflicted. But there's no easy answer right now. (No, "trade for a goalie" isn't an easy answer)
Click to expand...

I doubt Portillo signing this year or even next year would make any difference at the NHL level. He's not stepping into the NHL immediately just like Levi shouldn't be viewed as stepping into the NHL immediately.

We've touched on Levi's process being low-and-slow. That's got to be a consideration as is how long it takes normally for a player to go from high-performing collegiate or junior to NHL starter. Even a 2-year window may not be long enough.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DustyZ, michaelsaas and Zman5778
Zman5778 said:
Looking ahead briefly...........there are some older guys who might consider a 1 or 2 year deal to be the bridge and provide Anderson-like veteran influence on the room (Quick, AndersEn, Talbot, Reimer). The problem is that I'm pretty sure UPL loses his waiver exemption next year. And what if Portillo decides to actually sign with Buffalo?

I know Adams' line is that he doesn't want to block Levi, but I'm not sure he's taking into account Levi's usual MO of taking his time. Twice now he's made a decision to stay at a level when he could have (should have?) made a move up in level. There's a real chance that he will prefer to play at least a year if not two in Rochester before coming to the NHL. He's an odd bird that way.

We're in such an odd situation right now with the goalies. Some of it is of course self-inflicted. But there's no easy answer right now. (No, "trade for a goalie" isn't an easy answer)
Click to expand...
Not only is Levi not in a hurry, but Adams is also trying not to rush prospects, which is right. In the summer there will likely be many different options for goalies in the UFA and for trade.
 
  • Like
Reactions: michaelsaas
Zman5778 said:
Looking ahead briefly...........there are some older guys who might consider a 1 or 2 year deal to be the bridge and provide Anderson-like veteran influence on the room (Quick, AndersEn, Talbot, Reimer). The problem is that I'm pretty sure UPL loses his waiver exemption next year. And what if Portillo decides to actually sign with Buffalo?

I know Adams' line is that he doesn't want to block Levi, but I'm not sure he's taking into account Levi's usual MO of taking his time. Twice now he's made a decision to stay at a level when he could have (should have?) made a move up in level. There's a real chance that he will prefer to play at least a year if not two in Rochester before coming to the NHL. He's an odd bird that way.

We're in such an odd situation right now with the goalies. Some of it is of course self-inflicted. But there's no easy answer right now. (No, "trade for a goalie" isn't an easy answer)
Click to expand...
If someone wants to claim UPL see ya. Trading for a goalie is the easy answer.
 
Cal Petersen has a .941 through 3 games in Ontario. He was free. I don't see anyway the decision to not grab him off waivers doesn't come back to bite them in the ass
 
pigpen65 said:
Cal Petersen has a .941 through 3 games in Ontario. He was free. I don't see anyway the decision to not grab him off waivers doesn't come back to bite them in the ass
Click to expand...
Adams doesn't want players who don't want to play for Buffalo. Not that Petersen has been great in the past, much less so this season. Even Bob with some retain and sweetener would look better.
 
  • Like
Reactions: toddkaz
jc17 said:
The guy makes 5M, had an .868 save % in the NHL and actively chose to not play for buffalo.

Hard pass
Click to expand...
The money is meaningless, there's no cap concerns. Vesey and Butcher both passed on Buffalo too, and they still ended up giving up assets for both of them. Petersen was free.
 
Chainshot said:
It's $5M AAV for three years is not meaningless money in two years.
Click to expand...

Yeah. When the Sammy/Tage/Dahlin/Cozens extensions all kick in......that $5M could be a very big deal if CalPete never finds his NHL groove again.

And then there's the Power hopefully-long-term extension.....and Quinn's....and JJP's.........
 
Zman5778 said:
Yeah. When the Sammy/Tage/Dahlin/Cozens extensions all kick in......that $5M could be a very big deal if CalPete never finds his NHL groove again.

And then there's the Power hopefully-long-term extension.....and Quinn's....and JJP's.........
Click to expand...


Good points.

This team is going to be in cap trouble real quick if Adam's isn't really careful with UFA signings and goes even on a little spending spree with the way the kids are all breaking out at the same time.

It is the main reason why you DON"T trade away the top end talent for short-term upgrades before you are actually a cup contender - they are going to desperately need a talent influx on ELCs coming up through the system as the payroll evolves if they want to compete.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dingo44
Jarry is looking like the cream of the crop in free agency. But we don't want to sign a goalie for more than two years.



I like Talbot for two. He is a lock for .905-.910. I think. Maybe 3.75per for 2 seasons?
 
Given how hard it is and how long it takes to develop goalies, and how hard they are to come by in free agency apparently, I'm finding it hard to believe we didn't just sign Ullmark.

Of course, if I'm being honest, most of this realization is after the fact, because at the time I just figured we had some type of plan in place that would have put us in a much better position than where we are now.

I mean, I'm sure Comrie getting hurt wasn't in the plans, but even still thought we'd be in much better position.
 
The Kings are going to need to get goalie by the looks of it.

I don't quite buy into the Lance No goalies want to come to Buffalo narrative. I believe no goalies wanted to come to Buffalo for 2 years and the money the Sabres wanted to pay for one. KA/TP will not overpay for goaltending. There are some real good ones who went to other teams for more money & term at the top of the league right now. Just my belief.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Jacob582
Going after a goaltender now, with even Demko (who's in the age range that I believe KA wants around) allows us to let Levi sizzle, get starts, and progress in Roch and wouldn't be given the reigns right away with 1-2 professional seasons under the belt. I have a feeling if that happened, we'd be let down yet again. (IE: UPL, Ullmark development) I just don't want us to rush anyone anymore.

Think about it too, if we go after a D and a G. We DO have draft pick capital, and a lot of prospects in the pipeline for a departure.. to win now. That's just me. We're definitely not out of it, I wanna see where the standings are at in 1-2 weeks.

D & G trade for proven commodity give away unproven commodity, realistically though
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Top Bottom