HaNotsri
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I have a hard time believing this. The 3 year extension shows that Adams believed in Tage, at least to me. I think Adams/Granato has valued Tage close to @sabremike level.
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Beerz
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sabresEH
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That sounds more correct. I don’t think Elliotte or Marek are mentioning it on their podcast without verification.
But yeah I think it was a Botts tenure thing not Adams.
PatLaFontaineASMR
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Yea Friedman said it was 3 years ago and that particular podcast was almost a year ago. Adams was still VP of business at that time. No clue how somebody got "Adams was trying to trade him for a 5th" out of that. People just making up stuff.
Adams even signed Tage to an extension 3 months after he became GM. Doesn't even make sense that he was trying to trade him.
PatLaFontaineASMR
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Are we still doing this weird thing where all these good goalies like Saros, Hart, and Demko were available, but none of them actually got traded?
I can't even believe my eyes that people are complaining that we didn't sign Reimer lmao.
I can't even believe my eyes that people are complaining that we didn't sign Reimer lmao.
sabresfan129103
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Happy for UPL. You can tell the guys in the locker room really like him. Hopefully he can build off this and gain some confidence. He got a lot of support from the team today as far as team defense goes which was a nice change of pace from what he normally deals with.
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ValJamesDuex
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PatLaFontaineASMR
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Adams should trade Tage the guy is useless. What a bad contract
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Can you believe Adams wanted to trade Tage? The guy stinks!
Even though the "Adams wanting to trade Tage" is just made up anyways. We've gotten to the point where we gotta completely make stuff up to shit on Adams for lmao.
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Old Navy Goat
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Whodathunkit that the goalies aren't that bad if they're not constantly giving shots they're not realistically expected to stop
Wait you're telling me our goalies weren't actually as bad as we thought and it was the team D that was the problem? shocking. Also Levi was peppered in those 4 dang.
MarkusKetterer
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UPL plays like that, and you have no goaltending issues. Got only lucky on a couple of plays mostly he was in great position all night and really controlled rebounds. He's about average now for all this games in terms of expected goals which would be fine by me. I'm good with average to okay goaltending.
sabresEH
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Apologies for mis-remembering a story I heard a year ago and agreed after I was corrected that I had mis-remembered.
They are
So many people never saw Hasek. The biggest crime in Sabres history is not giving the greatest goalie in history a good team.
MOGlLNY
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Yep! Im not UPL’s biggest fan (I’d obviously love for him to take the net) but think he got a bad shake in that Devils game.
A lot of people blaming him for that loss.
Zman5778
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A lot of people are blaming the goaltending (or bemoaning the situation in general) for every loss due to reflex. Sabres lost? Had to be due to goaltending and not the defense being utter shit!!!!
Well, now it's kind of becoming obvious -- our goaltending situation isn't BAD. It's pretty freaking average. And as some here predicted, watch what happens when our defense becomes sturdier......all of a sudden, our goalies don't look bad at all. They look....average. Yes, each one has let in a goal or two that they'd want back......but every goalie in the NHL lets one on that they want back once in a while.
When our defense becomes playoff-caliber.....our goalies won't be the reason we miss the playoffs.
Let's do some logic here, shall we?
Botterill acquired Thompson in 7/1/2018. He was the key piece of the O'Reilly trade.
Would have GMJB sold they key prospect of the RoR deal in year 1 for a late pick? No.
Thompson missed the vast majority of the 2019-2020 season. When is GMJB selling an injured prospect who was the lynchpin of his biggest trade for pennies on the dollar?
GMJB was fired in July 2020.
The next year, TT had 14 points in 38 games and looked like a lost on the ice most of the time.
My guess is that Adams made TT available during the 2021 expansion draft because he likely wanted to go get another forward that was available. Or maybe he wanted to protect 4 d-men instead of 3. Maybe it was at the trade deadline that year rather than the expansion draft. Either way, GMJB didn't have a logical opportunity to sell of Thompson for scraps. He was either still a very raw prospect (2018-19) and the big part of the RoR trade or injured (2019-20). It was Adams who tried to sell him off for scraps, not JB.
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tsujimoto74
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Said it all off-season: The biggest improvement the Sabres could make to their goaltending would be upping their commitment to team defense.
Same. The PK stick and positional details have been much better, but as things are moving forward, they have stopped giving up as many odd-man rushes and fewer cross-seam passes.
It's not reflex. We have had bad bad goaltending since Ullmark. Our expected goals almost always negatve.
Zman5778
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.....which means that by now it's complete reflex to many to blame the goalies even when the goalies carry little/no blame.
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