Player Discussion All Purpose Goaltending Thread

[toddkaz]

Would Comrie make it through waivers? Maybe he would get claimed but again he is really not that good anyways.

I don't see Buffalo waiving Comrie though because then it would be Adams admitting he was wrong but with UPL he never drafted him.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Would Comrie make it through waivers? Maybe he would get claimed but again he is really not that good anyways.

I don't see Buffalo waiving Comrie though because then it would be Adams admitting he was wrong but with UPL he never drafted him.

Eh, he had no problem sending Bjork or Hinostroza down, and traded Lyubushkin a year after signing him. I'm not sure why Adams would inherently be against sending down Comrie if needed.

 

[toddkaz]

Eh, he had no problem sending Bjork or Hinostroza down, and traded Lyubushkin a year after signing him. I'm not sure why Adams would inherently be against sending down Comrie if needed.

Tweeners that you trade for to be tweeners vs Signing your starting goalie.

Apples to Oranges.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Tweeners that you trade for to be tweeners vs Signing your starting goalie.

Apples to Oranges.

So you have no evidence that Adams will actually behave in the manner you are suggesting, but are confident that it will happen anyways? Weak.

 

[Jim Bob]

Goalie tandem rankings: Why the Bruins hold down the top spot

Heading into a new season, we count down all 32 teams based on their goaltending group.

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24. Buffalo Sabres
Devon Levi, Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen, Eric Comrie​

This ranking for the Sabres is entirely contingent on Levi being who many believe he will be this season. The 21-year-old had a stirring seven-game tease in 2022-23 (5-2-0, .905 save percentage) and is expected to be among the best rookies in the NHL this season.

Luukkonen, 24, saw his first full seasons in 2022-23 and posted a minus-5 goals saved above expected. The veteran Comrie was considered a free-agent bust last season in 19 games, but could factor in the mix this season.

One goalie expert we spoke with believed that Comrie was the better goaltender than Luukkonen last season, but had the misfortune of playing a lot when the Sabres' defense was most banged up. "They turned down decent trade offers for UPL. I could see him gone, but head coach Don Granato likes him, so he may keep trying to make it happen with UPL," they said. "Levi is the real deal, but plays with an aggression that may get targeted after teams see him once."

 

[debaser66]

Goalie tandem rankings: Why the Bruins hold down the top spot

Heading into a new season, we count down all 32 teams based on their goaltending group.

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I guess he should be able to handle that "aggression" with his meditation technique ;-)

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

Salim Valji: Calgary Flames goalie prospect Dustin Wolf vows to be ready when his time comes | TSN

Flames prospect Dustin Wolf has accomplished seemingly everything at the AHL level, including winning the league’s outstanding goalie of the year award twice. But as Salim Valji writes, his odds of making this year’s opening-night roster were slim given Calgary’s goaltending depth, which...

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I need to learn the age old lesson "thou shall not covet another team's young goalie"...

Other people want to give up a lot for Chychrun, Zegras, or EPete. And I am over here thinking about how much fun it would be to have a Levi-Wolf tandem for the foreseeable future...

 

[Fjordy]

Salim Valji: Calgary Flames goalie prospect Dustin Wolf vows to be ready when his time comes | TSN

Flames prospect Dustin Wolf has accomplished seemingly everything at the AHL level, including winning the league’s outstanding goalie of the year award twice. But as Salim Valji writes, his odds of making this year’s opening-night roster were slim given Calgary’s goaltending depth, which...

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I need to learn the age old lesson "thou shall not covet another team's young goalie"...

Other people want to give up a lot for Chychrun, Zegras, or EPete. And I am over here thinking about how much fun it would be to have a Levi-Wolf tandem for the foreseeable future...

I'm not sure why Calgary would trade Wolf for a relatively reasonable price. Vladar won't be there soon. Markstrom is already aged and it is not even clear whether he will still be good, since he had a bad last season.

Of course, I would be in favor of a trade for Wolf, but this all seems a little unrealistic.

 

[Jim Bob]

I'm not sure why Calgary would trade Wolf for a relatively reasonable price. Vladar won't be there soon. Markstrom is already aged and it is not even clear whether he will still be good, since he had a bad last season.

Of course, I would be in favor of a trade for Wolf, but this all seems a little unrealistic.

It is absolutely unrealistic. But, so are ideas like trading for EPete.

 

[Fjordy]

It is absolutely unrealistic. But, so are ideas like trading for EPete.

Well, I didn’t trade for EP.

 

[old kummelweck]

Well, no more clarity on who the final 2 will be. The preseason does not seem to have enough game time to evaluate and clear up any uncertainty around 2 goalies, let alone 3.

Last preseason game should be the opening night roster, which means their starter should probably get the game (Levi). I think they know what they have in Comrie, but are still trying to figure out UPL - so he probably needs another game or two, and that is going to bleed into the regular season.

I really was hoping this team wasn't going to be trying to figure out their goalies while they try and get off to a good start, yet here we are.

 

[Zman5778]

I think they know what they have in Comrie, but are still trying to figure out UPL

I think they know what they have in UPL -- a guy who's wildly inconsistent that can't go through waivers. They know that when UPL is in good form, he's capable of stealing games (hello, last January).......but they also know that when he's not in good form, he's capable of losing games.

I think the hope going into camp was that UPL would be more consistent.......but hasn't shown it in 2 preseason games, behind a defense that gave him 0 help in either game.


There's also the underlying maybe-thing that UPL seems to perform better when he knows that the net is his and his alone. It seems like when he has to compete for ice time, he falters.


Bottom line: I think we're running 3 goalies until something forces our hand or someone gives us a solid offer for UPL.

 

[Jim Bob]

Well, no more clarity on who the final 2 will be. The preseason does not seem to have enough game time to evaluate and clear up any uncertainty around 2 goalies, let alone 3.

Last preseason game should be the opening night roster, which means their starter should probably get the game (Levi). I think they know what they have in Comrie, but are still trying to figure out UPL - so he probably needs another game or two, and that is going to bleed into the regular season.

I really was hoping this team wasn't going to be trying to figure out their goalies while they try and get off to a good start, yet here we are.

I doubt that giving UPL 2 or 3 regular season games will give them any more clarity than they have today.

I forget which of the two pods I listened to this morning (xBuffalo Podcast & The Instigator Podcast), but one of them mentioned the idea that the Sabres might try and wait until TB figures out what they are doing in goal and then try and pass UPL through waivers.

I think they know what they have in UPL -- a guy who's wildly inconsistent that can't go through waivers. They know that when UPL is in good form, he's capable of stealing games (hello, last January).......but they also know that when he's not in good form, he's capable of losing games.

I think the hope going into camp was that UPL would be more consistent.......but hasn't shown it in 2 preseason games, behind a defense that gave him 0 help in either game.


There's also the underlying maybe-thing that UPL seems to perform better when he knows that the net is his and his alone. It seems like when he has to compete for ice time, he falters.


Bottom line: I think we're running 3 goalies until something forces our hand or someone gives us a solid offer for UPL.

It's one of those age old higher floor (Comrie) vs higher ceiling (UPL) debates...

 

[old kummelweck]

There was some reporting that UPL wasn't happy they handed Levi those last 8 or so games. I think the damage is done with this guy and that could now be part of the problem. Maybe he figures it out somewhere else.

 

[Zman5778]

There was some reporting that UPL wasn't happy they handed Levi those last 8 or so games. I think the damage is done with this guy and that could now be part of the problem. Maybe he figures it out somewhere else.

Yeah, I've thought about that and it just kind of goes into the point I attempted to make that UPL seems to perform better when he knows he's got the net.

Ultimately, I do think UPL will need to be elsewhere to hit his potential......if he hits it at all.

 

[Daz28]

I doubt that giving UPL 2 or 3 regular season games will give them any more clarity than they have today.

I forget which of the two pods I listened to this morning (xBuffalo Podcast & The Instigator Podcast), but one of them mentioned the idea that the Sabres might try and wait until TB figures out what they are doing in goal and then try and pass UPL through waivers.


It's one of those age old higher floor (Comrie) vs higher ceiling (UPL) debates...

I hope they don't waive him, because he will almost surely get picked up. Heck, watching last game CBJ would be nuts not to drop Elvis like a hot rock for UPL. He's younger than and outplayed Comrie last year, and a little preseason play doesn't erase any of that for me.

 

[Weltschmerz]

I doubt that giving UPL 2 or 3 regular season games will give them any more clarity than they have today.

I forget which of the two pods I listened to this morning (xBuffalo Podcast & The Instigator Podcast), but one of them mentioned the idea that the Sabres might try and wait until TB figures out what they are doing in goal and then try and pass UPL through waivers.


It's one of those age old higher floor (Comrie) vs higher ceiling (UPL) debates...

Tampa and Colorado both need another goalie, not sure if there are more teams, but let the other teams waive their 3rd goalies first, no harm in waiting a bit.

 

[Jim Bob]

Tampa and Colorado both need another goalie, not sure if there are more teams, but let the other teams waive their 3rd goalies first, no harm in waiting a bit.

Other teams could be looking at the situation the same way. It all comes down to the last 4 guys out, who needs waivers, and who you think is the most likely to get claimed when trying to do that math, IMO.

 

[Weltschmerz]

Other teams could be looking at the situation the same way. It all comes down to the last 4 guys out, who needs waivers, and who you think is the most likely to get claimed when trying to do that math, IMO.

We can wait with the waiving untill after the season has started, other teams might have to do it before that, like the leafs, they will have to send Jones or Woll down to get under the cap.

 

[Jim Bob]

We can wait with the waiving untill after the season has started, other teams might have to do it before that, like the leafs, they will have to send Jones or Woll down to get under the cap.

True. But, that means waiving a F or D that might get claimed just to try and sneak UPL down later. And, they could end up losing both guys on waivers.

I think they should not play that game and just send down whomever they think is best and not try and mess around with waiving multiple guys over the next couple of weeks.

 

[Beerz]

We can wait with the waiving untill after the season has started, other teams might have to do it before that, like the leafs, they will have to send Jones or Woll down to get under the cap.

Toronto is something like 13 mill over cap.. I thought you could only be 10% over cap in off-season and you couldn't use LTIR until season starts .. How did they get away with this?

Sorry I know off topic

 

[Weltschmerz]

Toronto is something like 13 mill over cap.. I thought you could only be 10% over cap in off-season and you couldn't use LTIR until season starts .. How did they get away with this?

Sorry I know off topic

There is offseason LTIR.

LTIR FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[Bendium]

Toronto is something like 13 mill over cap.. I thought you could only be 10% over cap in off-season and you couldn't use LTIR until season starts .. How did they get away with this?

Sorry I know off topic

Its the exchange rate.

 

[HaNotsri]

I doubt that giving UPL 2 or 3 regular season games will give them any more clarity than they have today.

I forget which of the two pods I listened to this morning (xBuffalo Podcast & The Instigator Podcast), but one of them mentioned the idea that the Sabres might try and wait until TB figures out what they are doing in goal and then try and pass UPL through waivers.


It's one of those age old higher floor (Comrie) vs higher ceiling (UPL) debates...

I don't see how Comrie's floor is any higher than UPL's.
Probably not much of difference when it comes to ceiling either.
So tired of tire fire goaltending.