Eh, what about Subban? Seems to be a decent goalie and from what I hear a great teammate.
Player Discussion All Purpose Goaltending Thread
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Zman5778
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Zman5778
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Certainly matches what my eye sees.
I was poking fun at how terrible the defense is. And how that doesn't seem to factor into evaluation of netminders. Perhaps I'm still reeling after reading someone's take that Tokarski was a better tender than Ullmark after looking for something in the old Ullmark threads.
Zman5778
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Oh, I got what you were laying down. And you know I agree with you. It's baffling to me how so many people are willing to say "OMG, getting a new goalie will fix everything"........when it's very clear to me that we don't know what we have in net. All 3 of our goalies have been under siege all year.
Fixing the defense could very well fix the goaltending.
Zman5778
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I probably should have worded my last statement a little better, as I don't believe that just getting a top 4 D and a 3rd pairing LHD fixes things.
Fix the TEAM COMMITTMENT TO DEFENSE, possibly fix the goaltending. I think it's entirely possible that if we bring back our D exactly as-is......if our forwards play defense better, we're a playoff team. Now, we'll need a top 4 D plus a 3rd pairing LHD in order to make noise in the playoffs.......but a team committment to defense easily gets us in the playoffs as long as our offense doesn't drop off too badly.
RecycledEichel
Out with the old...
Wonder what our goalies would be like in front of a good defense
Comrie in WPG- .920
Comrie in Buff- .877
Massive difference
Comrie in WPG- .920
Comrie in Buff- .877
Massive difference
UPL: .895
Anderson: .918
The problem is Comrie. He is hot trash. He is far worse behind the same D than the other 2
We're bottom 10 in goals against per game, shots against, and save %.
To get us to average, it's not just going to be one player that magically changes anything. We've gotta upgrade the goaltending, we have to improve the defense, we have to alter the system to get the defense and goalies more support from the forwards, and we need to change out the forward group a bit.
I don't think if we run it back with simply system changes and player development is going to push the needle enough. We need to drop a 1/2 a goal against a game to get to the median for the league. You are going to have to have internal improvement, system changes, AND personnel changes to bridge that kind of gap. It's not like we had a boat load of defensive and goaltending injuries like the Devils had last year.
The Devils were able to drop a full goal per game off their GAA last year by:
1. Upgrading their goaltending
2. Getting healthy
3. Adding on defense and defensive forwards.
That is the kind of offseason we should hope to emulate.
WhereAreTheCookies
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Coincidentally the Devils have 2 Dmen who would possibly fit where the two of the holes on Buffalo's roster are in Graves and Severson. Outside of Bahl who got brought up during the season, Jersey's youngest Dman would have been the 2nd oldest on the Sabres Dcore to start the season.
I'm curious if this is accurate:
Can I just say.....if this is true (they plan on giving Levi every opportunity to win the starting job and not improving the goaltending with any external add), they need to get a GM in here isn't bat shit insane. This is obviously speculation, but the 'not blocking' thought process mirrors Adams own quotes, which concerns me. It would be setting up Levi up for failure and the Sabres up for failure. Levi needs a year to adjust to the pro game, the schedule, the work load, the speed, the talent. At a minimum. It'd be one thing if there was an injury call up and he took the starters job by force. However, his plan should to be the Amerks goalie next year, possibly beyond that depending on how he develops.
Can I just say.....if this is true (they plan on giving Levi every opportunity to win the starting job and not improving the goaltending with any external add), they need to get a GM in here isn't bat shit insane. This is obviously speculation, but the 'not blocking' thought process mirrors Adams own quotes, which concerns me. It would be setting up Levi up for failure and the Sabres up for failure. Levi needs a year to adjust to the pro game, the schedule, the work load, the speed, the talent. At a minimum. It'd be one thing if there was an injury call up and he took the starters job by force. However, his plan should to be the Amerks goalie next year, possibly beyond that depending on how he develops.
Zman5778
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I'm OK with the idea of giving Levi the chance to win the job outright. I'm OK with the idea that if Levi wins the job outright, give it to him.
But Granato and Adams should go into the year expecting Levi to start the year in Rochester and anything else from there is gravy. Hell, they went into this year expecting UPL to start the year in Rochester (he did) and then UPL earned it from there.
We're not getting any external help in net, I think that much is absolutely obvious. We're going into next year with Comrie and UPL as the 1A/1B guys unless Levi surprises. And frankly, I'm OK with it -- I'm not as down on our goaltending as many here. I've been very vocal that our goals against issue is more defensive than it is on our goalies. I can't recall one game this year that we've played well defensively and our goalies have lost the game for us......gives me a sliver of hope that if our defensive game tightens up, our goalies will hold up.
Jim Bob
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I would expect the plan to be that Levi is in Rochester for 23-24 at a minimum. 100+ AHL games tends to be the standard for goalies to develop well in the AHL.
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This is an interesting FA goalie option that someone suggested on the bird app.
EF has no sources in Buffalo about what the team is up to. He has sources from agents and some executives, but there is nothing he or Dreger have speculated upon for seemingly forever that has been sourced to the Buffalo side of things.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
I do wonder if the Sabres wait to go after a bridge goalie. As soon as the ink dries on Levi's ELC, then they start looking.
I don't think that is obvious at all. Buffalo should be looking at all avenues, including trades (Demko, Hart, Gibson) or UFAs (Anderson, Hill, Raanta, Talbot, Jarry, etc). Buffalo has oceans of cap space and no goalies signed beyond next year. Both of those goalies are a sub .900 SP and 3.5 GAA+. All options should absolutely be on the table.
Mattilaus
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This is my thought as well. I don't know how you know what you are looking for until you know if Levi signs. Do you go after a stopgap 2 or 3 year contract goalie? Or do you swing for the fences for a big name? Difficult to say if you don't know whether or not Levi is signing.I do wonder if the Sabres wait to go after a bridge goalie. As soon as the ink dries on Levi's ELC, then they start looking.
I do wonder if the Sabres wait to go after a bridge goalie. As soon as the ink dries on Levi's ELC, then they start looking.
Same with more defensemen. The runway to stack in a 4-5-6 type isn't contingent on worries real or imagined over Johnson once he's signed.
And with the volatility of the position, we regularly see people shuffling from team to team. It's not the norm to have 10-year starters. We see players emerge and displace others and the shortage of immediate goaltending makes the position sought after in trade. It's not like having someone come makes something immovable or unreplaceable. Just do it.
I wanted a new guy brought in last year to play on a 3 yr deal, and have Levi ready to go from part-timer to full-timer (if he played well enough). That chance went by and instead became the 2 yr deal for Comrie. I feel now that the front office will stick to that path. Everything KA ever says about "patience" would indicate they will stick with UPL/Comrie next season while Levi stays in Rochester. Then for 2024-25, Levi will split duty with UPL and see how it shakes out and who deserves a starting role (or they each do well splitting games). I doubt they simply try to throw Levi in as a starter, next season or the season after, but I never hear anything to indicate KA will go after another goalie in the meantime. The best time for that was last summer, but now what decent starter is going to want to come to Buffalo on a short-term deal knowing they have all their hopes on Levi to be the long-term guy? Maybe KA targets a small and temporary upgrade from Comrie, I just doubt it.
MarkusKetterer
Shoulda got one game in
My ideas of goalie haven’t changed from last off-season. Varlamov, Samsonov and Reimer. They’re all UFA this summer (for now). Last year 2/3 would have cost a pick to acquire.
