Confirmed with Link: All-Purpose Coyotes Arena Talk: [Update] Land Auction Cancelled, Meruelo waiving ownership rights.

[The Feckless Puck]

My source within the organization is no longer there--along with several others--so I can post this without endangering anyone's livelihood.

A while back I said they were thinking of changing the Roadrunners to a different name and one in particular would cause endless memes/jokes. That name?

Coyotes. Yes, you read that correctly. Whose idea was it? Junior's, naturally.

Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

I'm starting to wonder how much money daddy donated to Jr's business college to pay for his diploma. Or if he graduated on his own, but at the bottom of his class.

 

[Edenjung]

I doubt that a buisness school teaches you how to run a sports franchise or sports team in general.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

The problem is this is a fair weather fan state as CD pointed out. Always has been. It's the old chicken and egg. We needed a rich owner that would spend what was needed to build a winning organization so they could sell out but the fans weren't coming out to support the team until they won consistently. So all the potential owners wanted a subsidy or project that made enough money to pay for the team so they didn't have to. Bottom line is we needed an owner with Mark Cuban wealth but all we could attract were a bunch of grifters.


Well if the board billionaire isn't going to do it, I guess we're screwed.

I want to like the first and laugh at the second

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

I doubt that a buisness school teaches you how to run a sports franchise or sports team in general.

I think you took me a little too seriously.

Besides, I'm not even talking about running a sports franchise. I'm talking about him possibly being so dumb he'd change the Roadrunners to Coyotes. That's more or less about marketing and I'm sure he had some marketing classes.

That's just plain out of touch. Insulting even. Hopefully it was just an idea tossed out there without much real consideration to it.

 

[crazyhockeylover96]

Probably an attempt to circumvent the Mullet contract. “The team named Coyotes,” is how it keeps getting quoted. Not sure if “NHL team” is in there or not. Also maybe an ego thing. “I never lost the Coyotes” kind of thing while keeping the brand active.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Poor market with fair weather "fan" base.

Yeah, that's crap. And as a counter I would submit exhibit A - the Florida Panthers. Similar problem, yet still around, and now look at them.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

I'm not sure the Red Wings could survive the 20-year shit show that was the Coyotes. Most teams put a lot of effort into attracting new fans. The Coyotes spent 20 years alienating them. Can't fault the fanbase one bit for their lack of interest in the team. The brand got toxic a good ways back.

Nobody with any pride would support this team

 

[Coyotedroppings]

I doubt that a buisness school teaches you how to run a sports franchise or sports team in general.

This is indicative of why you don't give fresh college grads positions of great importance. The basics of business education are fine, it's the mantra of those that can't teaching their beliefs, that create a bravado not based in reality.

Yeah, that's crap. And as a counter I would submit exhibit A - the Florida Panthers. Similar problem, yet still around, and now look at them.

Same crap I’ve been saying for well over a decade now, because it’s true.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

I'm not sure the Red Wings could survive the 20-year shit show that was the Coyotes. Most teams put a lot of effort into attracting new fans. The Coyotes spent 20 years alienating them. Can't fault the fanbase one bit for their lack of interest in the team. The brand got toxic a good ways back.

Nobody with any pride would support this team

Hockey is a game not a brand. The greatest game on earth, thus it shouldn’t even require such “effort.”

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Knew I could get the ol’ denial train rolling again. Keep the excuses flowing boys!

 

[LAIslanderFan]

Where will the auction be held? I just retired on May 1st and I have nothing but time on my hands.
I wouldn't mind going to the auction if the public is allowed.

 

[LAIslanderFan]

My source within the organization is no longer there--along with several others--so I can post this without endangering anyone's livelihood.

A while back I said they were thinking of changing the Roadrunners to a different name and one in particular would cause endless memes/jokes. That name?

Coyotes. Yes, you read that correctly. Whose idea was it? Junior's, naturally.

I can beat that! The Islanders changed their AHL team name from Soundtigers (a reference to Bridgeport being the offseason home to the Circus and the Long Island Sound) to the Bridgeport Islanders. The Islanders are named the Islanders because they're on LONG ISLAND! Bridgeport is not on an Island. So even so called competent owners can make moronic decisions.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

Hockey is a game not a brand.

Yes, hockey is a game, but you're talking pond hockey. The NHL and it's franchises are trademarked brands generating revenue playing it.

The greatest game on earth, thus it shouldn’t even require such “effort.”

I don't even think that you actually believe this. It's just too ridiculous. Coyotes couldn't even convert enough hockey fans of other teams after they've moved to Arizona. People that already love hockey.

There's lots of hockey fans in Arizona, they're just not Coyote fans.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

Knew thought I could get the ol’ denial train rolling again. Keep the excuses flowing boys!

You're making excuses for the franchise. "Whats good for the goose..."

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Yes, hockey is a game, but you're talking pond hockey. The NHL and it's franchises are trademarked brands generating revenue playing it.


I don't even think that you actually believe this. It's just too ridiculous. Coyotes couldn't even convert enough hockey fans of other teams after they've moved to Arizona. People that already love hockey.

There's lots of hockey fans in Arizona, they're just not Coyote fans.

They don't love hockey too much, if they were willing to let an NHL team leave their community. But yes, I agree, lotsa "hockey fans," trouble is too many are fair weather, bandwagon jumping, root for the teams from the cities they used to live in, nutless puking excuses for hockey fans. I've been saying this pre-bankruptcy and look where we are because the "fans" you taut refused to assimilate.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

You're making excuses for the franchise. "Whats good for the goose..."

Clever attempt, but it doesn't hold water, unless of course you think like AM and Jr., who seem to think the franchise is the main attraction. Meanwhile they stand at the ready with their dicks in their hands.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

look where we are because the "fans" you taut refused to assimilate.

Hey, if you think that it shouldn't take any effort for the Coyotes to win over a Bruins, Red Wings, Blackhawks, Maple Leaf, or Canadiens fan; I can't stop you

Clever attempt, but it doesn't hold water, unless of course you think like AM and Jr., who seem to think the franchise is the main attraction. Meanwhile they stand at the ready with their dicks in their hands.

So, you don't care that the Coyotes are gone, because you can still watch the Roadrunners? Since it's all about the sport and not the team/franchise?

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Where will the auction be held? I just retired on May 1st and I have nothing but time on my hands.
I wouldn't mind going to the auction if the public is allowed.

AZ state land dept. 1110 W Washington.

There is a chance they change the location, based on expected turn out. I was at the board of appeals meeting there was asked by an employee if I was coming to the auction, she acted like it is normally very crowded. So, who knows, we'll just need to keep an eye on it as the time draws near.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Hey, if you think that it shouldn't take any effort for the Coyotes to win over a Bruins, Red Wings, Blackhawks, Maple Leaf, or Canadiens fan; I can't stop you



So, you don't care that the Coyotes are gone, because you can still watch the Roadrunners? Since it's all about the sport and not the team/franchise?

As a former Chicagoan and Blackhawk fan, yes I think that and no, you can't stop me, whether you laugh, like a village idiot, or not. Which leads to, yes it bothers me that the Coyotes are gone because it's the NHL, the highest level of play for the greatest game on earth. It's a complete embarrassment that they are gone and the fans who didn't show up are to blame. It has absolutely nothing to do with the franchise, or even the team for that matter, it's about having the greatest game on earth played at the highest level, in our community.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

As a former Chicagoan and Blackhawk fan, yes I think that and no, you can't stop me, whether you laugh, like a village idiot, or not. Which leads to, yes it bothers me that the Coyotes are gone because it's the NHL, the highest level of play for the greatest game on earth. It's a complete embarrassment that they are gone and the fans who didn't show up are to blame. It has absolutely nothing to do with the franchise, or even the team for that matter, it's about having the greatest game on earth played at the highest level, in our community.

So, if you moved to Boston we could all assume that you're an "assimilated" Bruins fan immediately? Even if the Coyotes still existed here in Arizona?

 

[Coyotedroppings]

So, if you moved to Boston ?

Bruins fan. When I lived near Tulsa, I was a Stars fan and drove five hours each way to see games.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

Bruins fan. When I lived near Tulsa, I was a Stars fan and drove five hours each way to see games.

I think most people have a little more brand loyalty and attachment to "their" specific teams than that. Not that you're alone or anything.

I'm not even going to instantly become a Coyote fan again if Meruelo revives a team. They're going to have to earn it this time.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

I think most people have a little more brand loyalty and attachment to "their" specific teams than that. Not that you're alone or anything.

Yep and most people are assholes too, so here we are surrounded by assholes that let NHL team in their community go.

I believe you're from Detroit and it seems you were a Coyote fan, so I'm struggling with your willingness to appease these assholes with excuses.

Edit: hell, I worked for FOMOCO for 19 years and if I didn't get such sweet deals on their products, I'd buy another make, if the quality was good and they beat the price. Why the hell should anyone care about brand?

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

I'm struggling with your willingness to appease these assholes with excuses.

You're trolling.

The Coyotes didn't become the joke of the NHL because the fans didn't show up. The fans didn't show up because the Coyotes became the joke of the NHL.