Prospect Info: All-Purpose 2024 Draft Thread & Celebrini discussion (also the 14th pick and whatever else is draft related)

[Shark Finn]

He's not Crosby but I'd rather he watch Crosby. In teams of size, skating style, etc, Celebrini is more likely to play that type of quicker more explosive two way / Selke game vs a 6'3" Barkov or Kopitar.

There's not much Crosby-watching to be done at this time of the year, though.

 

[mogambomoroo]

He is watching, he is learning that's what I love about Celebrini. I think the hype is that he is very hungry to be even better tomorrow while already doing amazing things.
His two-way game has 1C written all over it already and I think at his peak there is no limits.
What a great time to be a Sharks fan!

 

[Hangemhigh]

No, we're getting Zetterberg.

Unfortunately he's 43 years old.

Good veteran to protect the youth. Designated driver and bodyguard.

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

I feel like that’s what makes Will Smith special as well. He’s probably watching the finals and soaking up what he can to make himself better. We’ve got at least 2 future cornerstones and potential super stars. Will’s hockey IQ is on another level.

 

[Munnyro]

Barkov's puck protection is unreal.

 

[PattyLafontaine]

Listening to the Athletic podcast out today, sounds like Stian Solberg impressed a lot of teams with his interview and personality. Definitely think he’s a serious candidate for #14.

Carter Yakemchuk apparently did not interview well and people are questioning his athletic ability as well as he was “well below average” on the lower body testing off the ice and performed poorly at the on-ice CHL top prospects game.

Shocking, I tell you. I mentioned I had a almost a non-existant grade on Yakemchuk. I wish the best for him.

We could try Alex Zetterberg. After 6 weeks on a stretching bench, he might be worth a 2nd-rounder.

Zetterberg is interesting. He's a waterbug (5'7 IIRC), so he'll be a 3rd rounder, but I think he might be worht the gamble.

 

[coooldude]

Shocking, I tell you. I mentioned I had a almost a non-existant grade on Yakemchuk. I wish the best for him.

Story's a bit more mixed. Pronman's own Draft Confidential article had a lot of positives about Yakemchuk, including scout quotes that he'll go high. Then on the podcast they mentioned he didn't interview well and admitted himself he's not a "natural athlete" re: his poor lower body tests (jumps etc). I watched the public interview with him and he definitely has a weirdness to him, but so does Corey Perry (who many including me on his thread think is a similar vibe).

I still think he's gone before 14.

 

[Gecklund]

Shocking, I tell you. I mentioned I had a almost a non-existant grade on Yakemchuk. I wish the best for him.


Zetterberg is interesting. He's a waterbug (5'7 IIRC), so he'll be a 3rd rounder, but I think he might be worht the gamble.

I also had Yakemchuk much lower than most. YOU AINT SPECIAL

 

[Hodge]

What about Chernyshov? He doesn't appear to have any real flaws.

 

[coooldude]

What about Chernyshov? He doesn't appear to have any real flaws.

He seems like a slightly bigger "Russian MBN" and I think he may end up being a draft steal, personally, but I wouldn't be the only one who thought that. The main knock, I think, is just "he's good at everything but is he ELITE at any one thing?" same as MBN or Helenius's criticisms (although those two are flavored slightly differently and Helenius is C).

 

[Hodge]

He seems like a slightly bigger "Russian MBN" and I think he may end up being a draft steal, personally, but I wouldn't be the only one who thought that. The main knock, I think, is just "he's good at everything but is he ELITE at any one thing?" same as MBN or Helenius's criticisms (although those two are flavored slightly differently and Helenius is C).

I've never seen either play outside of highlights but based on those it seems like Chernyshov is a stronger skater than MBN and he's obviously a lot bigger than Helenius. I wonder if Chernyshov would be talked about in the same terms as Sennecke if he had played in the OHL this year.

 

[Barrie22]

So McKenzie has Sennecke at the 14th spot in his final rankings.

Bob McKenzie's NHL Draft Ranking: An 'unpredictable ride' after Macklin Celebrini | TSN

Ten out of 10 NHL club team scouts surveyed in the past week by TSN have Macklin Celebrini as the undisputed No. 1 draft prospect. Beyond Celebrini, though? Buckle up.

www.tsn.ca

 

[PattyLafontaine]

So McKenzie has Sennecke at the 14th spot in his final rankings.

Bob McKenzie's NHL Draft Ranking: An 'unpredictable ride' after Macklin Celebrini | TSN

Ten out of 10 NHL club team scouts surveyed in the past week by TSN have Macklin Celebrini as the undisputed No. 1 draft prospect. Beyond Celebrini, though? Buckle up.

www.tsn.ca

Works for me. I know people are leary of late risers, but when you watch his videos he has outrageous hands and he's plugged in on the offensive end. He has the highest upside of anyone the Shark will have an oppounity to draft , imo. Of course he could be taken sooner and it's all moot.

 

[sharski]

Anyone else finding the ads to be at all-time level of suck on HF? Had a long post about how I think Buium is really f'in good, then click to edit a word, took me to ad, and when I pressed back it was gone....

Anyway, Buium's speed isn't great, but his edge work is quite strong. Lot of 5'11-6'1 dmen (who may be shorter than 6'1 per combine measurement standards). Fox, Makar, Hughes, Karlsson, Morrisey, Heiskanen, Josi, McAvoy, Doughty all 6'1 or less. Sure, I'd love a Hedman, Power, Dahlin, Dobson, or Bouchard as a 6'3 lead d-man, but really don't think Buium being 6'0 is a massively limiting factor. It's not like he's Luca Cagnoni at 5'9.

To the question, not sure I'd give 14+Vegas 1st, but I'd certainly do 14+33 for Buium (or Dickinson, Silayev, Levshunov). I think I might pull the trigger on 14th+Vegas 1st for Buium+2nd in 2024/2025 though. Vegas seems very likely to be in the playoffs. Having a really good D prospect lessens the need for next years 1st (likely top 1-5) to be a D. There is good odds BPA will be a forward next year and Hagens very likely looks to be a clear #1. Can't imagine we'd get that lucky in back to back years, but imagine we draft Nygard at 14 and then win the lotto next year. Maybe we move a star forward, but there are so many really interesting D this year, that I'd love to be able to grab one of the top 6, but especially the 4 named.

I especially love how mobile friendly this site is lol

Anyways

1) MackCeb already filled GMMG's undersized-for-his-skillset-but-overskilled-for-his-size quota
2) Buium's destiny is to be frienemies with MacMac a la Couture-Doughty

 

[Hodge]

2) Buium's destiny is to be frienemies with MacMac a la Couture-Doughty

Buium is from SoCal so it would be some nice fuel for the rivalry if the Ducks take him and he lives up to his potential.

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

When all is said and done, our rebuild is gonna outdo the Anaheim Ducks and the Chicago Blackhawks.

 

[Friday]

When all is said and done, our rebuild is gonna outdo the Anaheim Ducks and the Chicago Blackhawks.

Next year is a top 5 pick and hopefully the Vegas 1st is a 10-20. Going to be pretty loaded if they can hit on these. Smith / Musty / Celebrini / 14th + next years crop is so many blue chips. So much sexy

 

[coooldude]

So McKenzie has Sennecke at the 14th spot in his final rankings.

Bob McKenzie's NHL Draft Ranking: An 'unpredictable ride' after Macklin Celebrini | TSN

Ten out of 10 NHL club team scouts surveyed in the past week by TSN have Macklin Celebrini as the undisputed No. 1 draft prospect. Beyond Celebrini, though? Buckle up.

www.tsn.ca

I don't think that's his final ranking though, says May 6. I think (?) he will do one more.

 

[NiWa]

I don't think that's his final ranking though, says May 6. I think (?) he will do one more.

Yup, it usually gets published one week before the draft.

 

[Gecklund]

So McKenzie has Sennecke at the 14th spot in his final rankings.

Bob McKenzie's NHL Draft Ranking: An 'unpredictable ride' after Macklin Celebrini | TSN

Ten out of 10 NHL club team scouts surveyed in the past week by TSN have Macklin Celebrini as the undisputed No. 1 draft prospect. Beyond Celebrini, though? Buckle up.

www.tsn.ca

Wasn’t this posted over a month ago? I don’t think this is the final rankings is it?

Yup, it usually gets published one week before the draft.

I should have read further. Carry on.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

I just want to say Happy Father's Day to Rick Celebrini you beautiful man I love what you have done for Bay Area sports!!!

 

[landshark]

I just want to say Happy Father's Day to Rick Celebrini you beautiful man I love what you have done for Bay Area sports!!!

Phillip Banks too, with an honorable mention to Lou Smith!

 

[Patty Ice]

Phillip Banks too, with an honorable mention to Lou Smith!

 

[LadyStanley]

Check out this Podcast: What Are The San Jose Sharks Getting In Macklin Celebrini What Are The San Jose Sharks Getting In Macklin Celebrini

Locked on Sharks podcast

 

[matt trick]

Great content from Wheeler in the Athletic. Asked a ton of experts for top and bottom d-men in the top 6. Almost everyone had Yakemchuk (60%?) or Dickinson (20%) last. He also asked how close is your 7th ranked guy (mostly Jiricek, Solberg, and Emery) was to those six, and it was probably 60/40 against having a 7th guy in the convo. Jiricek most commonly came up with the caveat of (if not for the injury). Several who had only seen the college guys or the OHL guys and didn't stack rank all.

Lot of love for Sennecke from both players and scouts. Players had Catton as player (other than Celebrini) that impressed the most. Celebrini had 23/88 votes, Catton 12, Sennecke 8, and Eiserman 5. You could only pick non-teammates that you had played against.

It's crazy how little consensus there is after Celebrini. Levshunov, Celebrini, and Demidov seem to be the favorites, but they have some knocks as well.