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All Encompassing Tortorella Thread Pt. II

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Torts isn"t goint to get fired yet. The system is on the verge of being tweaked to better suit our players. Moreso now with Zucc and Fasth on the way. Lets see how it all plays out on the ice.
 
Just got off the phone with the Red Cross. Turns out that our offense does NOT qualify as a famine.

I'm outraged.
 
I want nothing to do with Lindy Ruff. His best years are behind him, and even those kind of sucked, to be honest.
 
Not sure what the obsession with is Ruff, unless the people who want him are big proponents of the neutral zone trap.
 
I want a puck possession coach. No more grinding systems. Hire one of Chicago/LA's assistants.
 
OverTheCap said:
Not sure what the obsession with is Ruff, unless the people who want him are big proponents of the neutral zone trap.
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I want Ruff namely because he seems to be the only coach who has experience and I don't want Mike Sullivan coaching this team. I like Torts but he's gotta adjust his system or accept his fate.
 
OverTheCap said:
Not sure what the obsession with is Ruff, unless the people who want him are big proponents of the neutral zone trap.
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How about Boucher?

At least he'll walk into a team that has a bonafide goalie and legitimate defense.
 
ImIdaho said:
How about Boucher?

At least he'll walk into a team that has a bonafide goalie and legitimate defense.
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He's seems more a product of having Lecavier, St. Louis, and Stamkos than being an offensive master mind. I could be wrong.
 
kenjets36 said:
He's seems more a product of having Lecavier, St. Louis, and Stamkos than being an offensive master mind. I could be wrong.
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But that's because he's only had that to work with. Their top 3 is better, but our top 6 evens that out.

That, and our D and Lundy, I think the guy could work his magic on this team.
 
ImIdaho said:
But that's because he's only had that to work with. Their top 3 is better, but our top 6 evens that out.

That, and our D and Lundy, I think the guy could work his magic on this team.
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Who knows. At this point i'm all for something that works.
 
silverfish said:
They're quite different. Their systems, albeit similar and defensively focused, are a little different.

And the way they handle the media is worlds apart.
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Yea let's choose a hockey coach based on how they handle the media
 
Ruff is known for his antics. I don't think Torts suddenly got stupid, its just that teams play differently on offense (ie carrying it in, and that RH offensive D would help) than what Torts is playing with his top 6.

Boston and Chicago have their top 6 making plays and taking risks, while the bottom six dumps and chases, but the Dmen all put pressure coming up the ice, the horses aren't in place for one as Bos and Chi have their system working because of all their D and checkers lining up on the strong side for an effective dump and chase game.

What it comes down to is that the quality athletes that occupied the bottom 6 last year cashed in elsewhere, and were replaced by works in progress or players that owe no loyalty to NYR org or Torts, thus the failure in holding up the lineup.
 
Kel Varnsen said:
Pretty pathetic this has actually become part of the discussion...
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It is pathetic...but sadly, also relevant. The NHL is still an old boys network, that there are still quite a bit of unwritten rules regarding teams, player and management conduct. Making waves and causing a ruckus tends to have some not-so-subtle side effects regarding the treatment of an organization in this league.

I can tell you as an Ottawa native and having the Sens as my #1 team since 1991, that we're still paying for the day we pulled a Roger Neilson and did the white-towel-on-a-stick routine during a game. The refs haven't forgotten about that yet. And I'm sure as a Rangers fan you see the mistreatment Avery got from the league; many of his fines and suspensions wouldn't have happened to a different player.

That said, Tortorella (and whoever that little PR person is beside him this season) is doing a much better job handling the media this season, all things considered. He still shows that fire, but it is controlled (well, for the most part, anyways).
 
Nac Mac Feegle said:
It is pathetic...but sadly, also relevant. The NHL is still an old boys network, that there are still quite a bit of unwritten rules regarding teams, player and management conduct. Making waves and causing a ruckus tends to have some not-so-subtle side effects regarding the treatment of an organization in this league.

I can tell you as an Ottawa native and having the Sens as my #1 team since 1991, that we're still paying for the day we pulled a Roger Neilson and did the white-towel-on-a-stick routine during a game. The refs haven't forgotten about that yet. And I'm sure as a Rangers fan you see the mistreatment Avery got from the league; many of his fines and suspensions wouldn't have happened to a different player.

That said, Tortorella (and whoever that little PR person is beside him this season) is doing a much better job handling the media this season, all things considered. He still shows that fire, but it is controlled (well, for the most part, anyways).
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I was laughing my ass off when one of the reporters asked him what he thought about Winnipeg's "TORT-O-RELLA" chant, John started, "Wait, what?"

PR guy:"NEXT QUESTION".

Wasn't that incident with the Canucks?
 
Callagraves said:
I was laughing my ass off when one of the reporters asked him what he thought about Winnipeg's "TORT-O-RELLA" chant, John started, "Wait, what?"

PR guy:"NEXT QUESTION".

Wasn't that incident with the Canucks?
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Originally, yes. But one of our players on the bench (Peter Schaefer, iirc) also did it again back around 2006-07. It also didn't help the Murray spent a lot of time chirping to the media about bad calls around that time, too. Refs have been somewhat 'iffy' with the Sens since then.
 
Just heard from a guy at work that there's a rumor that Torts could be fired. He said he heard it on a local Philadelphia sports radio station this morning.

Seems more like speculation to me, I told him it was unlikely to happen this season unless things got way worse.
 
I dont know if it was posted in here or another thread, but i was talking to a coworker and he said that there was an article somewhere on Zucc's coach was bashing Torts style of coaching. He said Zucc would not work out because of Torts "Stoneage Hockey Style".
 
Ailurophile said:
Just heard from a guy at work that there's a rumor that Torts could be fired. He said he heard it on a local Philadelphia sports radio station this morning.

Seems more like speculation to me, I told him it was unlikely to happen this season unless things got way worse.
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It's floating around at a lot of places. I heard it mentioned the other day when the Rangers came here to Pittsburgh. All the radio personalities were talking about how Torts is on thin-ice.

I work in the area of Pittsburgh where a lot of radio stations are located. I saw one of the personalities down at the deli (Using the term "deli" very loosely mind you.. freaking Pittsburgh) and he said that there was some tension between the powers that be because Torts had failed to open up the system after there was an injection of talent. He also said that you could really feel the tension in the locker-room while they were interviewing players, which was a big change from how it was last season.

Keep in mind that it's basically 3rd hand information at this point.
 
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