Proposal: All Bruins trade rumors/proposals: 16/17 Part VIII

[DaStinger]

for what moved my threads ? Thank You

All trade proposals go in the trade proposals thread, just helps to keep the board nice and clean.

 

[leeroggy]

Mcavoy is growing a long beach good prospect solid dman 14 pick over all 2016

Bebrusk a excellent prospect 14 pick over all 2015

Belesky dump the salary 3,900 a year

Liles dump the salary 2,000 for the rest season

1 pick 2017

FOR Nick Leddy and Anders Lee two players 25 years old Leddy is a good
Dman

Do you honestly think the Isles even CONSIDER this?

Our top defender and our leading goal scorer with good contracts for two prospects and two dumps? I see the first but with this trade that will likely be around #20, making it pretty unexciting in this year . . . considered a weak draft right now.

Charlie will be terrific down the line but right now if he evolves into Leddy you'd be very happy as a Bruin fan.

 

[riverhawkey91]

I can't get past the fact that Adam Larsson netted Taylor Hall straight-up. Why would we give up Carlo+ for Landeskog if this is the market for top-4 D?

This. It always concerns me when management appears to have an infatuation with a particular player, as that's the quickest way to end up on the losing side of a trade (see Seguin for Eriksson).

If we can all loosely agree that Carlo and Landeskog have similar value (with a middling prospect addition from Boston's side), it makes you wonder just how good of a player Boston could feasibly get with a Carlo package. Say instead of mid-level prospect, we add a high-end one, or a roster player like Vatrano. Does that get them a significantly better player than Landeskog? Maybe a prospect deal appeals to Chicago and they give up Panarin.

Flip side, if they're willing to package a bunch of stuff for a player like Landeskog anyways, maybe they take it a short step down and see who they could get for the same package with Zboril instead. Keeping Carlo/McAvoy and adding a slightly lesser player than Landeskog might be better value ultimately.

Just have to hope these are all things management is keeping in mind, rather than having eyes only for Landeskog.

 

[BBB24]

This. It always concerns me when management appears to have an infatuation with a particular player, as that's the quickest way to end up on the losing side of a trade (see Seguin for Eriksson).

If we can all loosely agree that Carlo and Landeskog have similar value (with a middling prospect addition from Boston's side), it makes you wonder just how good of a player Boston could feasibly get with a Carlo package. Say instead of mid-level prospect, we add a high-end one, or a roster player like Vatrano. Does that get them a significantly better player than Landeskog? Maybe a prospect deal appeals to Chicago and they give up Panarin.

Flip side, if they're willing to package a bunch of stuff for a player like Landeskog anyways, maybe they take it a short step down and see who they could get for the same package with Zboril instead. Keeping Carlo/McAvoy and adding a slightly lesser player than Landeskog might be better value ultimately.

Just have to hope these are all things management is keeping in mind, rather than having eyes only for Landeskog.

It is more like fans have a infatuation with players/prospects

 

[riverhawkey91]

It is more like fans have a infatuation with players/prospects

That's definitely true, but I'm sure it happens at the GM level as well.

It's not a coincidence that our last 4 big trade/free agent targets have all been guys who bring moderate scoring but tons of intangibles.

 

[DominicT]

Just answering this from previous thread

We heard from Dom on Monday morning saying the bruins/Avs were close to a deal. What stopped it? I think DS won't trade Carlo. Just me guessing too.

The Bye week.

Avs have had theirs, and any Bruin roster player hasn't.

That and Sakic and Sweeney are cut from the same cloth. Both are passive. Comes down to how much MacFarland pushes Sakic and Neely pushes Sweeney.

 

[PB37]

Just answering this from previous thread



The Bye week.

Avs have had theirs, and any Bruin roster player hasn't.

That and Sakic and Sweeney are cut from the same cloth. Both are passive. Comes down to how much MacFarland pushes Sakic and Neely pushes Sweeney.

Can a roster player during his team's bye week be moved? And if so, can he play with his new team or is he still tied in to the 6 day break window of his old team?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

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I have a distinct feeling the Bruins won't be making a deal.

Duchene or Landeskog will go to the Rangers for a couple of pails of **** like what always happens.

EDIT: Really? I can't write **** anymore? Shame.

 

[Dr Hook]

Just answering this from previous thread



The Bye week.

Avs have had theirs, and any Bruin roster player hasn't.

That and Sakic and Sweeney are cut from the same cloth. Both are passive. Comes down to how much MacFarland pushes Sakic and Neely pushes Sweeney.

So essentially they could have deal already in place, paperwork filed with the league, but can't announce and/or move a Bruins player because he is on his mandated bye week and won't be eligible to play/practice for the Avs until Saturday?

 

[robinsonp16]

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I have a distinct feeling the Bruins won't be making a deal.

Duchene or Landeskog will go to the Rangers for a couple of pails of **** like what always happens.

EDIT: Really? I can't write **** anymore? Shame.

Unfortunately I can totally see this happening. We get hung up on the egatives of trade Carlo and McAvoy and then watch as some other team gets Landeskog for a song and it turns out Sweeny was just a dope.

 

[DominicT]

Can a roster player during his team's bye week be moved? And if so, can he play with his new team or is he still tied in to the 6 day break window of his old team?

Yes he can.

No he can't.

 

[robinsonp16]

Just answering this from previous thread



The Bye week.

Avs have had theirs, and any Bruin roster player hasn't.

That and Sakic and Sweeney are cut from the same cloth. Both are passive. Comes down to how much MacFarland pushes Sakic and Neely pushes Sweeney.

So DOM is this essentially a dead deal then? Your last point of Sweeny and Sakic cut from the same cloth sounds like neither is actually motivated to make a deal.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

So DOM is this essentially a dead deal then? Your last point of Sweeny and Sakic cut from the same cloth sounds like neither is actually motivated to make a deal.

Sounds more like they're waiting for the bye to be over because (if I'm reading this right) Carlo can't play until the bye is over. So Colorado would be without the player they acquire until the bye is over.

 

[Dr Hook]

Sounds more like they're waiting for the bye to be over because (if I'm reading this right) Carlo can't play until the bye is over. So Colorado would be without the player they acquire until the bye is over.

Yep and at the same time losing use of the player they gave up. Makes sense.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

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I have a distinct feeling the Bruins won't be making a deal.

Duchene or Landeskog will go to the Rangers for a couple of pails of **** like what always happens.

EDIT: Really? I can't write **** anymore? Shame.

It's always the goddamn Rangers...

 

[patty59]

Just answering this from previous thread



The Bye week.

Avs have had theirs, and any Bruin roster player hasn't.

That and Sakic and Sweeney are cut from the same cloth. Both are passive. Comes down to how much MacFarland pushes Sakic and Neely pushes Sweeney.

Do you think Firday makes the most sense for a trade to happen. Gives Avs player time to get to Boston to practice before heading out and Bruins player's last day off. None of the NHL players can even play or really meet up with their news teams right now, right?

 

[tremha]

I think that group would be worth exchanging for Landeskog. Is it is attractive enough for Colorado?

too much for me. Landesgog is not worth that much.

Both Zboril and Miller could be top 4, DeBrusk top 9, plus pick for a top 6???

 

[DitClapper]

Well I'm going to have to digest this when they announce it

Marchand & Landeskog will be your top 2 LW barring the unexpected so I understand that 1 or 2 left wing prospects are going

Bergeron & Krejci are here and Boston has 3 very good center prospects all different from each other - JFK Donato Frederic so one could be on move (Donato would be shocking and Frederic is that big skilled power center teams have trouble finding) JFK will be a bummer if in it

I commend Chiarelli Sweeney Gretzky Bradley and all the scouts that loaded them up- from Pastrnak on down their quality & quantity has them in a good spot

They do this deal I'm hearing they need to land Bjork though - he's the real deal and will replace traded guys assuming he's not part of this and why would he

Carlo, JFK, Heinen, DeBrusk, and a 1st for Landeskog?

I'd prefer to save one of JFK/Carlo, but if that's the deal I'll be ok with it. Our top 9 easily becomes one of the best in the league and locked up for a long time.

 

[bp13]

too much for me. Landesgog is not worth that much.

Both Zboril and Miller could be top 4, DeBrusk top 9, plus pick for a top 6???

"Could be's" aren't worth nearly as much as "are's". Which is why prospects aren't worth nearly as much as proven players.

Personally I'd make that trade all day long and I bet Boston would too. But Colorado wouldn't. They are easily giving up the best player and none of the returning players has a shot at being that valuable. That's a problem.

 

[FONZIE]

If the Bruins game is going to open up under Cassidy, I'd rather keep the Carlo on the team.

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Apparantley the RedWings amongst two other teams have inquired about J.Hayes.

Also Matt Belesky has been a disappointment and would benefit a change of scenery.

I would include these two to any deal involving Colorado.

 

[BruinDust]

Carlo, JFK, Heinen, DeBrusk, and a 1st for Landeskog?

I'd prefer to save one of JFK/Carlo, but if that's the deal I'll be ok with it. Our top 9 easily becomes one of the best in the league and locked up for a long time.

Carlo + JFK + Debrusk + Heinen + 1st rounder.

5 good assets, including an current NHL player, for Landeskog.

You can't be serious.

And by top 9 you must mean top 6. Because with about 37 million (50% of their cap space) tied up between Landeskog/Krecji/Bergeron/Marchand/Backes and Pastrnak's coming raise, all they'll be able to afford long-term are ELC guys to fill out the rest of the forward group....and most of the D-corps as well.

 

[DKH]

Some of the focus has shifted to Bruins prosects that Colorado could choose in a deal for Landeskog.

For perspective, here is Kirk Luedeke's latest (January 30) top 10 Bruins prospects who are still in college or junior hockey. Read about them here: https://scoutingpost.com/2017/01/31...17-re-ordering-the-amateur-prospect-rankings/

The rankings:

1. McAvoy
2. JFK
3. Bjork
4. Frederic
5. Senyshyn
6. Lauzon
7. Lindgren
8. Gabrielle
9. Donato
10. Zboril

Yah I will be bummed if JFK is in this

It makes zero sense unless you're worried about keeping your job

He should be at worst a second line center

I'd rather see Carlo in this than this guy especially with McAvoy coming along and Colin Miller improved play

Don't do it Don

 

[DKH]

Carlo + JFK + Debrusk + Heinen + 1st rounder.

5 good assets, including an current NHL player, for Landeskog.

You can't be serious.

And by top 9 you must mean top 6. Because with about 37 million (50% of their cap space) tied up between Landeskog/Krecji/Bergeron/Marchand/Backes and Pastrnak's coming raise, all they'll be able to afford long-term are ELC guys to fill out the rest of the forward group....and most of the D-corps as well.

That offer should get Sweeney fired and deservedly

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

The Tom Gilbert is the most recent example of how trades work... check the trade rumor board here... or ten columns... or hockey buzz... or spectors...

This is the normal amount of rumors that happen for a normal trade

But trade fans should take heart... trades do happen even if kypreyos and director and the boys aren't tipped off ahead of time