All Bruins rumors/proposals: Reset and Sweenified

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Dennis Bonvie

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Yandle has proven he can be asked to play 24-26 mins and go against top machups. Hes very mistake prone so its not ideal.

Krug has proven anything over 17-18 mins exposes him at this point and he needs tons of protection as far as zone starts. He has impressed on pp but hasnt clearly shown he generates offense at even strength.

Krug is still a pp asset at this point and might never be more than that

Krug scored 10 of his 12 goals last season at even strength. He played 19:36 per game and was a +12 on a mediocre team. He's also 5 years younger than Yandle. I
wouldn't trade him straight up for Yandle.

But even if you consider Yandle much better, it still leaves the B's with only one offensive dman.
 

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So whose going?

3.4 million left in cap space.

Does anyone see Franson signing here for less than that?

Slotting franson into depth chart we can imagine him with chara

We know mcquaid is in the plans for right side

Krug/ seidenberg are lh shots but seidenberg is ok on the right

Either of these guys could be moved to clear room for franson.

Krug is easier to replace with morrow and miller being our most nhl ready ahl dmen.

Im guessing seidenberg slides to the right and partners with morrow. Krug becomes odd man out.

Team probably wants to still add experienced bottom pair dmen if can find one for around a mill
 

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I've previously mused about Franson as an add-- big, decent skating, has some decent offensive production, and plays physical.

Others have been skeptical of his defensive credentials, which is fair, but if anyone can help Franson with his positional play in his own end, it's Julien.

Could be very interesting; but we're still missing a future #1D to replace Hamilton. It's too much to ask Franson to be that player...

Does he?

30 PIMs in a season is his career high. Got votes for the Lady Byng in 2013 when he had 8 PIMs in short season. Somewhat unusual for a 6'5" defenseman.
 

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Slotting franson into depth chart we can imagine him with chara

We know mcquaid is in the plans for right side

Krug/ seidenberg are lh shots but seidenberg is ok on the right

Either of these guys could be moved to clear room for franson.

Krug is easier to replace with morrow and miller being our most nhl ready ahl dmen.

Im guessing seidenberg slides to the right and partners with morrow. Krug becomes odd man out.

Team probably wants to still add experienced bottom pair dmen if can find one for around a mill

Our best (and only) offensive defenseman is the odd man out? How is he easy to replace by an AHLer?
 

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Krug scored 10 of his 12 goals last season at even strength. He played 19:36 per game and was a +12 on a mediocre team. He's also 5 years younger than Yandle. I
wouldn't trade him straight up for Yandle.

But even if you consider Yandle much better, it still leaves the B's with only one offensive dman.

Krugs icetime got a huge bump when chara was out of lineup... and we all know how the teams fortunes went with chara out.

I wont blame krug for that but he definitely didnt become superman either.

I had krug in most my pools. Once chara was back in lineup, julien reduced krugs icetime and killed my pools for me.

As for scoring goals... krug clearly can jump on pucks and score goals once hes inoffensive zone. We all love that part of his game.

What we havent seen from krug is an ability to get puck at even strength against top matchups... skate it out of zone... get in rush... qb offensive opportunities.

I mean he might do this... yandle already does this.

Yandle already has a track record of 24-25 mins per night. He already has a track record as a 40 assist guy... as a leading scorer on his team... as a lead sled dog.

Yandle has warts but he is upgrade ocer kryg
 

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Does he?

30 PIMs in a season is his career high. Got votes for the Lady Byng in 2013 when he had 8 PIMs in short season. Somewhat unusual for a 6'5" defenseman.

Check out Franson's hit totals. Second highest in the league in 2013/14, with 282. More hits than Clutterback, Gudas, Looch, Schenn, Chris Neil, Ott, Rinaldo, Backes, etc. Only Matt Martin bested him. Similar respectable hit numbers in 2012/13 (top 20).

Last year, his hits dipped a bit comparatively, but still respectable -- 177 hits in 78 games. Plus his offensive production was up last year too, at least with the Leafs.
 

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The bonus penalty is already included, it's listed with the Goalies as are 7 D one would be taken off there as well

I built that roster, I'm aware its listed under the goalies. I added the bonus penalty to the goalies and the 7th D and the 13th forward. 3.5 million left.
 

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As usual, BB88, some good stuff in here. And also as usual, we're not disagreeing on a whole lot.

It's sort of funny that previously, when I thought Hamilton was going to be locked down long term, I thought fixing the D group was the easiest task, as all we needed to find was a "stay at home" type D with top 4 D quality, and we were good. Now, fixing the D is the most difficult task.

If the post a few lines up is accurate, sounds like Franson may have just been signed with the B's so... there's at least one D for the top 4... But Franson isn't a good enough Hamilton replacement.

It would be great to draft an elite D next year in the top 5, and then an elite F in top 5-8... But you're absolutely right. The clock is ticking on this, big time. The longer we take to find out future #1D, the longer we waste prime Bergy/Krejci/Marchy and whatever Chara has left in the tank.

Yep, fixing the D is damm hard because we need that top pairing future #1D, teams won't just give those away, I'm thinking that 2nd overall should be our target, pay the price and get him, if it takes longer than that find then we are going to waste our core players prime.

The potential is there but it's just missing that 1 piece and sadly it's the big one :laugh: I hope C.Miller can really step up next year and Morrow allowing us to only focus on finding that 1st pairing D.
To me it's just becoming clear that after next year Seids has to be traded, Zboril, Linus, Morrow, Carlo, C.Miller are trying to push into lineup and they have the potential to be 2nd pairing D's soon. I don't want to keep them out of the lineup because/if we can't say goodbye to our vets. And if we add a D-player then we are going to have 5-7 strong prospects fighting for 1 roster spot.

It's funny how things have changed, now when you look at next season as a re-tool year and not as a must be in the playoffs year then you can see the potential in our forward group and how great the depth is, I don't think we have to worry about that for a long time, but then you look at the D and see it full with question marks and see it missing that 1st pairing D. I trust one of our prospects is able to step up and take that 2nd pairing role, that's why I don't think we should be after a new 2nd pairing D and waste assets on that, use everything you have and can use without hurting the team and find that topD.

975k in bonus penalty, 13th forward, 7th D make it 3.5ish.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/15667

We have 5.6M now and Franson would be then that 7th D leaving us 1 winger short.

Shawn Hutcheon ‏@ShawnHutcheon 53 s53 sekuntia sitten

Have been told by more than one source that, as of now, Cody Franson has not signed with any NHL team.
 
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I wish we knew a little more about the offer Edmonton made for Hamilton.

The media reports suggest we were trying to get Chiarelli to include Nurse in the deal but he refused.

Were we asking for a 1st, 2nd, and *also* Nurse?

Who here, if if came down to it, wouldn't have sent Hamilton straight up for Nurse?

I know I would. Nurse is going to be a beast. And especially if I knew Hamilton wanted to leave, which weakens our leverage a tad in the dealings.

The picks from Calgary were good, but we're lost searching for a #1 D...
 

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Our best (and only) offensive defenseman is the odd man out? How is he easy to replace by an AHLer?

Similar to how hawgood was replacable once it was established he was an anazing offensive talent only. Or a dman like bergeron... delmore...

An oleg tverdowsky type...

Weve seen many dman over the years with immense offensive talent come into nhl. Teams obviously hope these guys devolop into useful nhl dmen like ralfalski or campbell or even yandle.

I guess you feel krug is headed in that direction. I see warning signs that he is not.

The odds on this type of player making it are less than 50%. This is why krug was undrafted.

This is why he was such a surprise when he made it to the team.

This is why people like me question how much upside remains untapped
 

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So Krug is over-payed to be a PP specialist but you're ok with Kelly and his "leadership"?

Keep Krug because he will only get better in every area of his game including leadership and move Kelly and his 3m salary and pick up a top 4 dman.

Kellys one year away from a cost drop... and has negative trade value

Krug is one year away from a cost jump and might be at his highest trade value he will ever have.

Im think kelly for three more years around 1.5-2 mill is ok
krug for three more years at around 5 mill not ok
 

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Kellys one year away from a cost drop... and has negative trade value

Krug is one year away from a cost jump and might be at his highest trade value he will ever have.

Im think kelly for three more years around 1.5-2 mill is ok
krug for three more years at around 5 mill not ok

No.... No it is not. That is a terrible idea. He turns 35 this fall.
 

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Krug scored 10 of his 12 goals last season at even strength. He played 19:36 per game and was a +12 on a mediocre team. He's also 5 years younger than Yandle. I
wouldn't trade him straight up for Yandle.

But even if you consider Yandle much better, it still leaves the B's with only one offensive dman.

If morrow or miller make nhl... both will do so because of offense. Chara provides more offense than most dmen to a pp...certainly most teams dont gave 3 dman better offensively than chara.

An offense of yandle/morrow/chara would probably rank among top 10 in nhl

Seidenberg at 4 in depth chart is average too.

Now it seems we have franson instead... not as good as yandle. More shooter than puck mover.

If somehow we could get both franson AND yandle to chara and seidenberg... that would be something
 

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I wish we knew a little more about the offer Edmonton made for Hamilton.

The media reports suggest we were trying to get Chiarelli to include Nurse in the deal but he refused.

Were we asking for a 1st, 2nd, and *also* Nurse?

Who here, if if came down to it, wouldn't have sent Hamilton straight up for Nurse?

I know I would. Nurse is going to be a beast. And especially if I knew Hamilton wanted to leave, which weakens our leverage a tad in the dealings.

The picks from Calgary were good, but we're lost searching for a #1 D...

I would, Nurse is going to be a beautiful player, potential
Zboril-Nurse 1st pairing when Chara is not Chara or has retired.

But now the hope is 2nd overall, that would be huge, with that I see this team being damm impressive and for a long time, that prospect pool would make sure of it and make sure that our cap hell years are over for long time which I'd like very much.
 
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Elliot friedman is as good an insider as ive seen the past couple years. He clearly said boston/buffalo were in on franson not once but twice on oilers now lunchtime show.

Thats enough for me to believe that theres definitely meetings going on

Hmm. That's interesting. Anybody have the audio?
 

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Its a long shot, but deep down inside I would want to see a Pasta Spooner Semin line
 
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