All Bruins rumors/proposals: MOD Warning in OP-The Spiral Staircase to the Deadline

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Anyone think STL would trade Parayko ?

depends on their long range plans... cap management and icetime argues against the logic of keeping 3 highly skilled rhs dmen on the same team. personally it makes more sense to deal shattenkirk but a WIN NOW team might move the kid

kind of like when calgary moved phaneuf instead of regher

one thing seams certain... st louis will move a good dman sooner than later

 

[ranold26]

Anyone think STL would trade Parayko ?

Not happening.

 

[Alklha]

Anyone think STL would trade Parayko ?

The Blues are right up against the cap, we'll be in a similar position when we fill out our roster for next season. Even ignoring Parayko's potential, he is cheap and contributing to the team at a high level now... there is no incentive to move him.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I keep thinking that for the first time in memory the Bruins own the biggest fish available at the deadline. Sure some may say Drouin, but for a true contender, my money is on Loui. Way more proven and likely more desirable.

This excites me.

to me i expect staal to make a much bigger impact for a playoff team... and if bruins are dealing eriksson then it seams certain islanders must deal okposo too. we are playoff tested after all and they are still basically a rebuilding team.

i like both staal and okposo as bigger fish

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

The Blues are right up against the cap, we'll be in a similar position when we fill out our roster for next season. Even ignoring Parayko's potential, he is cheap and contributing to the team at a high level now... there is no incentive to move him.

blues seam very unhappy with playoff performance of many of their forwards. i see backes being given his walking papers... maybe steen too.

they will need a new guy to pick up the slack. for the right guy i see parayko being on the block

for example if drouin was traded from tampa for parayko... something similar to that... maybe hopkins out of edmonton...

it would require a high impact return but i dont see parayko untouchable if they keep shattenkirk

 

[EverettMike]

personally im waiting for florida to trade campbell and jagr and islanders to trade okposo and tampa to deal stamkos...

cause none of these teams can beat washington or la or chicago... cant lose an ufa for 'nothing'

come to think of it we should trade marchand and chara too because they will be ufa in the next couple years.

cant lose them for 'nothing' either

for those looking for 'real rumors' the local edmonton talk show host that is also a longtime bruin fan and posts here as lowtide mentioned he heard schultz to boston... didnt call it a hot rumor or anthing but rather mentioned it in passing

then his producer mentioned the hamilton trade and how boston and edmonton dont get along

(or maybe it was lowtide kobashing the rumor his producer shared?)

either way... i think if sweeney and chiarelli are willing to trade schultz might be a low cost gamble at this point for a mid round pick

You did a nice job refuting that strawman.

Solid.

Oh, and I think the Bolts should trade Stamkos.

 

[774EVER]

to me i expect staal to make a much bigger impact for a playoff team... and if bruins are dealing eriksson then it seams certain islanders must deal okposo too. we are playoff tested after all and they are still basically a rebuilding team.

i like both staal and okposo as bigger fish

Agreed on Okposo, but nothing really floating around that he is likely to be dealt. As for Staal, Loui is playing much better than him right now. On all accounts, (& 1 goal in 18 games) Staal has been downright bad.

Sure ES could be rejuvenated on another team, but this Eric Staal is a shell of a player that he was 5 years ago.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

Staal's injuries have slowed him down a lot. Still has great hands, but his burst is gone.

 

[Altamira]

to me i expect staal to make a much bigger impact for a playoff team... and if bruins are dealing eriksson then it seams certain islanders must deal okposo too. we are playoff tested after all and they are still basically a rebuilding team.

i like both staal and okposo as bigger fish

Tavares said he'd be "shocked" if the Isles traded any pending UFA's at deadline.... IMO, they can't afford to make Tavares unhappy at this point in his career if they want him to stay for the long term.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Agreed on Okposo, but nothing really floating around that he is likely to be dealt. As for Staal, Loui is playing much better than him right now. On all accounts, (& 1 goal in 18 games) Staal has been downright bad.

Sure ES could be rejuvenated on another team, but this Eric Staal is a shell of a player that he was 5 years ago.

i might be devils advocate when i point out nothing is floating around okposo because of how playoff teams never trade ufa... also why jagr and campbell arent in rumors... also why lucic and backes arent in rumors... and even why tampa had to do a press release to put those dumb rumors around stamkos to rest too.

i mean there are people here proposing eriksson to minnesota when they are barely above 500.

this talk is really very unlikely

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Tavares said he'd be "shocked" if the Isles traded any pending UFA's at deadline.... IMO, they can't afford to make Tavares unhappy at this point in his career if they want him to stay for the long term.

and their fans too... its amazing how fans that dont spend all their time on a futures website actually value 50-60 point guys on their playoff team higher than some kid that may never play a game.

im forced to remember torontos deadline deals the past 5-6 years cause i listen to their talk shows everyday... every time an antopov or a karberle were dealt... hope sprung eternal.

and today how many of these picks/prospects are helping toronto?

dont get me wrong... lucic was a pick we got for samsonov. and bourque came from dealing ron graham (but not at the deadline)

sometimes picks/prospects work out... iginla was from the joe niewenkyke deal and bret hull was dealt in the rob ramage package

but sooooooo many deadline prospects bust. remember what atlanta got for hossa?

if you are a playoff team... you hold onto guys you need

 

[Gator Mike]

DJ Bean confirming that the Bruins are at 4 years on their offer to Loui, but that Eriksson wants more.

https://twitter.com/DJ_Bean/status/703377065287008257

 

[774EVER]

and their fans too... its amazing how fans that dont spend all their time on a futures website actually value 50-60 point guys on their playoff team higher than some kid that may never play a game.

im forced to remember torontos deadline deals the past 5-6 years cause i listen to their talk shows everyday... every time an antopov or a karberle were dealt... hope sprung eternal.

and today how many of these picks/prospects are helping toronto?

dont get me wrong... lucic was a pick we got for samsonov. and bourque came from dealing ron graham (but not at the deadline)

sometimes picks/prospects work out... iginla was from the joe niewenkyke deal and bret hull was dealt in the rob ramage package

but sooooooo many deadline prospects bust. remember what atlanta got for hossa?

if you are a playoff team... you hold onto guys you need

On the Fan 590, they were mentioning that a big reason why Loui is most likely to be traded if not re-signed is because he was the centrepiece of the Seguin deal and that the Bruins FO doesn't want to lose him for nothing. Yes I know this idea absolutely nothing new and has become annoyingly tiresome, But I think it holds water. The trade has left such a sour taste in the mouths of many, even with the pieces that came back, that losing the pieces for nothing would make things even worse.

This IMO is what separates Loui from the other UFAs - as stated or implied by many around the hockey world.

 

[Latrappe]

DJ Bean confirming that the Bruins are at 4 years on their offer to Loui, but that Eriksson wants more.

https://twitter.com/DJ_Bean/status/703377065287008257

See later, alligator...

 

[Gee Wally]

On the Fan 590, they were mentioning that a big reason why Loui is most likely to be traded if not re-signed is because he was the centrepiece of the Seguin deal and that the Bruins FO doesn't want to lose him for nothing. Yes I know this idea absolutely nothing new and has become annoyingly tiresome, But I think it holds water. The trade has left such a sour taste in the mouths of many, even with the pieces that came back, that losing the pieces for nothing would make things even worse.

This IMO is what separates Loui from the other UFAs - as stated or implied by many around the hockey world.

I think thats crap. If Loui would take 6m at 4 yrs, hed still be a Bruin.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

if st louis did want a cost controlled winger to replace steen... and if they are willing to move an expenisive dman...

maybe we should try prying vladamir sobotka from them and see if carl gunnerson can be had?

if we could get both these guys for connolly and one of our cheap affordable 5/6 guys i think it helps us now and potentially the future too.

sobotka to be is an ideal 3rd line guy. it seams he is very unhappy with st louis. sort of like soderberg was back in the day and how jiri dopita wanted out of boston.

carl gunnerson has enough game he would upgrade our top 4 tok

 

[774EVER]

I think thats crap. If Loui would take 6m at 4 yrs, hed still be a Bruin.

You are probably right, if Eriksson has indeed been offered that by DS. Maybe things would be different if Donny was actually the one who traded for Loui...

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

On the Fan 590, they were mentioning that a big reason why Loui is most likely to be traded if not re-signed is because he was the centrepiece of the Seguin deal and that the Bruins FO doesn't want to lose him for nothing. Yes I know this idea absolutely nothing new and has become annoyingly tiresome, But I think it holds water. The trade has left such a sour taste in the mouths of many, even with the pieces that came back, that losing the pieces for nothing would make things even worse.

This IMO is what separates Loui from the other UFAs - as stated or implied by many around the hockey world.

way back... we traded barry pederson for an underachieving slow developing winger and a pick. man was i livid

imaging my disgust when that winger got bad knees and retired early

and then the pick wanted more money and we traded him !!!!!

holy crap i was angry

and then we used the picks to draft this russian smurf

and i was so angry but the russian was ok... but then we traded him too !!!


and finally we got lucic... finally i was happy... finally we had something to show for the barry pederson trade

but OMG then we dealt lucic so once again we have nothing at all to show for this horrible horrible horrible trade.

(although i guess pederson does some tv work for us to maybe that counts as something)

 

[BB88]

i might be devils advocate when i point out nothing is floating around okposo because of how playoff teams never trade ufa... also why jagr and campbell arent in rumors... also why lucic and backes arent in rumors... and even why tampa had to do a press release to put those dumb rumors around stamkos to rest too.

i mean there are people here proposing eriksson to minnesota when they are barely above 500.

this talk is really very unlikely

You don't know?

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

You are probably right, if Eriksson has indeed been offered that by DS. Maybe things would be different if Donny was actually the one who traded for Loui...

im sure theres an amount of money that COULD get louie signed... but would it be a good hockey move to give it to him?

i suggest letting louie test ufa market... if anyone is insane enough to give him 4 years at 6mill then change our target to one of the other ufa.

if im in charge of the cap... and i know the ceiling is going down.. im not overpaying today for anyone not named towes or kane or kopitar.

 

[Ratty]

way back... we traded barry pederson for an underachieving slow developing winger and a pick. man was i livid

imaging my disgust when that winger got bad knees and retired early

and then the pick wanted more money and we traded him !!!!!

holy crap i was angry

and then we used the picks to draft this russian smurf

and i was so angry but the russian was ok... but then we traded him too !!!


and finally we got lucic... finally i was happy... finally we had something to show for the barry pederson trade

but OMG then we dealt lucic so once again we have nothing at all to show for this horrible horrible horrible trade.

(although i guess pederson does some tv work for us to maybe that counts as something)

A Stanley Cup, with Lucic playing a key role, doesn't do it for you?

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

You don't know?

lets find out how many playoff teams deal ufa for rentals this year... and next year... and the year after that.

if it happens ill let you throw it in my face and ill cry ignorance and foolishness and admit that my 43 years of following this game 3-5 hours every single day of my life have taught me nothing at all

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

A Stanley Cup, with Lucic playing a key role, doesn't do it for you?

sorry... but when you lose a player for 'nothing' not even a stanly cul win can dull the pain. man i wish we fired the gm that dealt barry pederson

(or maybe we did?)

 

[Gator Mike]

Yeah, if it took the Bruins this long to get to four years, my guess is that Eriksson is gone on Monday.

I don't blame the Bruins for not wanting to go beyond four years, and I don't blame Eriksson for thinking he can get more... because he can. Quality UFAs ALWAYS get more than you think they're gonna get.

 

[BB88]

lets find out how many playoff teams deal ufa for rentals this year... and next year... and the year after that.

if it happens ill let you throw it in my face and ill cry ignorance and foolishness and admit that my 43 years of following this game 3-5 hours every single day of my life have taught me nothing at all

Why don't you look at those teams and what they have, where they are at?
There are 30 teams in the league, not every team is at the same place.

La/Blues are in win mode and they want to compete, La has their core in prime and can win, they have their elite #1D/#1C in their primes.
Blues have Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Parayoko on defense, oldest of the 3 just turned 27y, Tarasenko, Schwartz in their early primes.

Florida wants to re-sign both Campbell and Jagr, and both of them have said would like to stay there, then you look at their roster, Barkov&Ekblad are both 20y and their #1D/#1C's, Hubs is 22y, Gubranson 24y, Smith 24, Kulikov 25y Trocheck is 22y, and they drafted Crouse last year.
Tampa has a chance to go far in the playoffs, they have Hedman in his ealy prime, 25y and top offensive forward talent, players in their early primes/primes, Stamkos, Johnson, Palat, Kucherov, Namestnikov, then add the support group.
Tampa has made an offer for Stamkos, but who knows what happens.

There's no reason to compare this Boston team that has 1 top3D who turns 39y soon to those teams.
Can't see it working well if you are planning on contending with a weak weak defense.