Proposal: All Bruins rumors/proposals: 16/17 Part III

[LoveoftheBruins]

If anyone truly believes DW is going to make a big move, keep living in your fantasy world. Bruins brass don't have the balls to make a big move.

They love their underperforming 3rd and 4th line players and people wonder why they can't put the puck in the net.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Morrow's trade value must be close to 0. For the last year and a half he has barely played on a team with a weak defense. If he is traded he isn't a major piece, he is a throw in.

Agreed. Sad thing is I think he can be an NHL regular. Clode just prefers to play stay-at-home stiffs. There's no reason Morrow shouldn't be getting regular 3rd pairing minutes. He's played well when he's dressed. How can any player show any consistency when played sparingly? He may be a good player. And his value would be increased if he was getting ice time. Morrow has minimal value at the moment. You're correct he is a throw in

 

[DKH]

Outside of Zboril or Debrusk I wouldn't move any big name prospects for Landeskog.

One of them and our 1st is the most I'd offer for him.

I'd rather have Duchene for skill.

I would also but landeskog is a heck of a player

Just listening to 98.5 hockey show and comments on landeskog and I'm wondering what did 2017 bring?

The worst characterization of landeskog I ever heard by a caller

Yikes

 

[Dr Quincy]

Usually I'm a skill over "grit" and "heart" kinda guy. But in this case I take Landeskog over Duchene pretty easily. Duchene is easily the better offensive player, but to me he's mentally soft (and physically on the softer side). Landeskog is a more diversified player who can play in many situations.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Billy Jaffe's opinion, Landeskog is a 2nd/ 3rd line winger

 

[DKH]

Billy Jaffe's opinion, Landeskog is a 2nd/ 3rd line winger

He said would want Landeskog + for Carlo

Jaffe is a fan of DeBrusk

 

[BruinLVGA]

Billy Jaffe's opinion, Landeskog is a 2nd/ 3rd line winger

Well, his downward trajectory in production (65, 59, 53 and on pace for a 30 points season now) + the fact that Colorado is listening to offers on their 24 yo captain makes one indeed wonder...

 

[DKH]

Usually I'm a skill over "grit" and "heart" kinda guy. But in this case I take Landeskog over Duchene pretty easily. Duchene is easily the better offensive player, but to me he's mentally soft (and physically on the softer side). Landeskog is a more diversified player who can play in many situations.

Agree- landeskog to me is a 5

He's got first line and third line skills and fits perfectly dead center on a second line

I would not do Carlo but I'd certainly talk other D other than C-Mac

 

[Oates2Neely]

He said would want Landeskog + for Carlo

Jaffe is a fan of DeBrusk

He's right. Solid dmen tough to find. Sweeney has a stud here in Carlo. I'm a Landeskog fan but he doesn't scream game changer to me.

DeBrusk will be a Bruin soon. He thinks the game well

 

[World of Wardlow]

Debrusk is going to be good

 

[rainone99]

Billy Jaffe's opinion, Landeskog is a 2nd/ 3rd line winger

Exactly... he is a 2nd line winger.. gives you 20 to 25 goals... and you wanna give up Zboril, Debrusk, 1st Pick... ( 3 number 1's for a 25 goal scorer) CRAZZZYYY

He played with guys like Mckinnon, Duchene, O'Reilly and got 25 goals... We are not talking about a game changer here.. He is another Loui Eriksson 25 goals, 50 points... This is not the move we need....

Sweeney and Neely are going to ruin the future to save their jobs... Someone needs to STOP THEM!!!

Trade Krug, Krejci, Chara, Backes.... start building for 2020...

 

[DominicT]

Yes it makes me think more than twice about Lando. The B's NHL pro scouting seems dubious at best. They DO need a shooter. I keep wondering if, between the concussions and the type of dog you need in the fight I'd prefer a MacKinnon or Duchesne and not at the price of McAvoy or Carlo.
I just heard Haggs mention on 98.5 that both Carlo and Heinen come from Colorado roots so it makes me think that part of the package that they want is to bring both home town boys into the Avs fold. To this I would say he** NO!

My source and friend tells "Sweeney was pretty high on him at the draft and were prepared to jump all over him until James Reimer went on his run for the Leafs."

 

[DKH]

Well, his downward trajectory in production (65, 59, 53 and on pace for a 30 points season now) + the fact that Colorado is listening to offers on their 24 yo captain makes one indeed wonder...

Yes and I talked to Dom this morning and asked what he thought

The Horton and Backes type of leadership game skills are appropriate to me

We will see what happens but Carlo Senyshyn JFK and C-Mac aren't in this

 

[Dr Hook]

My source and friend tells "Sweeney was pretty high on him at the draft and were prepared to jump all over him until James Reimer went on his run for the Leafs."

Hey Dom, at the expense of sounding like an ignoramus, what does James Reimer's run for the Leafs have to do with the Bruins and Landeskog in his draft year? Not a snarky question at all, but genuinely curious.

 

[DKH]

Exactly... he is a 2nd line winger.. gives you 20 to 25 goals... and you wanna give up Zboril, Debrusk, 1st Pick... ( 3 number 1's for a 25 goal scorer) CRAZZZYYY

He played with guys like Mckinnon, Duchene, O'Reilly and got 25 goals... We are not talking about a game changer here.. He is another Loui Eriksson 25 goals, 50 points... This is not the move we need....

Sweeney and Neely are going to ruin the future to save their jobs... Someone needs to STOP THEM!!!

Trade Krug, Krejci, Chara, Backes.... start building for 2020...

Let's blow it up

You can deal Marchand before no trade kicks in

Bergeron would waive to go to Montreal

Blow it up - get rid of the fair weather fans that drive prices up and post crap here

 

[DominicT]

Hey Dom, at the expense of sounding like an ignoramus, what does James Reimer's run for the Leafs have to do with the Bruins and Landeskog in his draft year? Not a snarky question at all, but genuinely curious.

Because the Bruins owned the Leafs pick and they were in last or second last spot until Reimer went nuts, it dropped to the ninth pick and the Bruins ended up with Dougie Hamilton

 

[Dr Hook]

Yes and I talked to Dom this morning and asked what he thought

The Horton and Backes type of leadership game skills are appropriate to me

We will see what happens but Carlo Senyshyn JFK and C-Mac aren't in this

I like the deal as it stands- many reasons could be behind Landeskog drop in performance the past couple of season, not least because the Avs have been crap the last two years (especially last season) and are crap again this season.

I see it like this: does Landeskog make us a better team if he comes? Hard to argue that it doesn't based on what we currently have on our second line. He's 24 with some years left on a contract so it isn't a rental by any stretch. Are we a better team with Morrow, DeBrusk, and Zboril and whatever 1st rounder we can get? Maybe, possibly, but it's really hard to say. If this is a deal you can make while keeping key pieces like Carlo and the "can't miss" McAvoy, why not do it?

 

[Dr Hook]

Because the Bruins owned the Leafs pick and they were in last or second last spot until Reimer went nuts, it dropped to the ninth pick and the Bruins ended up with Dougie Hamilton

Ahh, got it, thanks for clarifying. That happened in one of my few "lost years" with the NHL where I didn't follow things as closely as I do now

 

[JoemAvs]

Hey Dom, at the expense of sounding like an ignoramus, what does James Reimer's run for the Leafs have to do with the Bruins and Landeskog in his draft year? Not a snarky question at all, but genuinely curious.

Boston had the Leafs pick in 2011 that turned into Dougie Hamilton.

Before Reimer went on the run, the Bruins could have been in range for Gabriel Landeskog.

I won't comment on anything regarding value or proposals in here because I am only a guest who is lurking but I will just say that Landeskog is getting underrated like crazy in here right now. If your FO feels the same way, I am pretty sure that he won't be a Bruin anytime soon.


EDIT: Nevermind. Looks like I was too late . Sorry.

 

[DKH]

He's right. Solid dmen tough to find. Sweeney has a stud here in Carlo. I'm a Landeskog fan but he doesn't scream game changer to me.

DeBrusk will be a Bruin soon. He thinks the game well

I was so off on DeBrusk- I thought he just shot the puck but he can pass very well and his best asset may be offensive awareness and decision making

He's 180 degrees from his dad

 

[rainone99]

Yes and I talked to Dom this morning and asked what he thought

The Horton and Backes type of leadership game skills are appropriate to me

We will see what happens but Carlo Senyshyn JFK and C-Mac aren't in this

For what purpose ..finish 8th and lose in the 1st round??? Is it really worth it??

 

[DominicT]

Let's blow it up

You can deal Marchand before no trade kicks in

Bergeron would waive to go to Montreal

Blow it up - get rid of the fair weather fans that drive prices up and post crap here

Here you go Dan http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2011e.html

Sorry I had to cut you off this morning, very busy weekend. Finished up 988 words on the Canes prospects at the WJC.

Was in Kitchener last night, Senyshyn should have had at least 4 assists to go with his hatty. Anyway, heading on the road now. Lots of hockey to watch today

 

[Oates2Neely]

If Landeskog can be had at the right price, of course he makes this team better.

If Sweeney can move some dead weight in the offseason he'll be sitting pretty.

I will admit I am excited/ surprised Sweeney looking to package some of these prospects to add an impact player to help win now. Good on him. Shows me he actually DOES have a plan. This current team, with Landeskog & McAvoy added, looks solid. And that's discounting any other youth who make the jump.

Sweeney starting to show his cards here, and his hand looks like a winner

 

[rainone99]

Let's blow it up

You can deal Marchand before no trade kicks in

Bergeron would waive to go to Montreal

Blow it up - get rid of the fair weather fans that drive prices up and post crap here

Now you're talkin... Blow it up... Start over... Get as many assets as possible... I can't believe I am saying this but the Leafs are doing it the right way... They may make the playoffs and their core has changed from old to young within 2 years...

 

[Gee Wally]

Now you're talkin... Blow it up... Start over... Get as many assets as possible... I can't believe I am saying this but the Leafs are doing it the right way... They may make the playoffs and their core has changed from old to young within 2 years...

Its ok to be filled with angst as you are. Its clear. In multiple threads.

But provide a proposal/ solution. That could be viable. Cap, NMC, draft, and rationale.

Thats my ask to all btw. Not singling you out.