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[SuperScript29]

absolutely insane how wilder not only managed to stay up for that long, but still knocked fury down twice and stayed in it until the end. really makes his corner throwing the towel in in the last fight even more head scratching

what a fight

His corner did him a favor in the last fight, and judging by how this fight went I really hope he's okay and this doesn't effect his health long term. Outside of the round where he got those knockdowns, he was absolutely getting destroyed.

 

[Bakayoko Ono]

The kind of fight that takes years off the fighters' lives.

 

[Northerner]

The kind of fight that takes years off the fighters' lives.

Have you seen Ali-Frazier?


None of these fights have even a round on any of those wars.


This fight was okay, but I've seen far better wars over the years where guys got brutalized.


I always viewed Wilder as an overrated one-trick pony. Wladimir would have destroyed him.

 

[CDJ]

Wouldn’t shock me if Wilder retires

Fury probably has the most heart of any fighter I’ve ever seen, which is scary because he’s also like 6’9 278 lbs

Guy got knocked down by arguably the greatest power puncher ever on 3 occasions now and got up each time. People forget he literally got back into shape and came out of retirement because Wilder said something to the effect of he didn’t have to worry about Fury anymore.

if there’s one thing for sure it’s you don’t want to motivate a lunatic with tunnel vision who has demonstrated championship fortitude in the recent past. Should’ve just let a sleeping dog lie

as for the quality of the fight there’s a reason why people are calling it the best heavyweight bout in at least a couple decades. It is absolutely a legendary fight that will go down in history no matter how much the hipster crew wants to say it isn’t a classic like the ones from decades ago. How often do you see a guy win a fight after being down 10-7 in a round? Let alone get a finish. The fight had it all- from the pageantry of it all to the drama of the fight to the heavy power both guys were landing

 

[Northerner]

Guy got knocked down by arguably the greatest power puncher ever l

LMAO......okay...hyperbole much?

 

[CDJ]

LMAO...lol...okay...

sick argument

guy literally became champ and doesn’t know how to box, how tf do you think he did it? Look at his track record, it’s indisputable. He is definitely at least up there

you don’t HAVE to be condescending, you know that right?

 

[Northerner]

sick argument

guy literally became champ and doesn’t know how to box, how tf do you think he did it? Look at his track record, it’s unarguable. He is definitely at least up there

you don’t HAVE to be condescending, you know that right?

How old are you? How many fights have you seen in your life?


Wilder isn't the greatest power puncher in history - he's not even top-10.

Outside of Fury, Wilder really never fought any class.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

@I am not exposed , tell me you saw this classic cracker of a fight last night?

 

[CDJ]

How old are you? How many fights have you seen in your life?


Wilder isn't the greatest power puncher in history - he's not even top-10.

Outside of Fury, Wilder really never fought any class.

lol you realize the argument I’m making isn’t an uncommon one, right? People routinely have him in the top 5 hardest punchers ever, take a look around for yourself. It’s hilarious that you’re basically incredulous about this to the point where you’re being condescending about a relatively common opinion

To quote legendary heavyweight Evander Holyfield “Every time he hits guys, they don’t move. Don’t make it too complicated: That tells you what you need to know.”

he does not know nearly as much about boxing as almighty Northerner tho

as for fights I’ve seen hundreds. Bring something to the table. An actual argument. Not your condescending bullshit. Also I’m not arguing about Wilders resume, I’m arguing about how hard he hits. Stop moving goalposts

 

[Avs_19]

Great fight. Rounds three and four in particular were some of the most entertaining rounds you'll see in HW boxing. Fury showed why he's currently the best HW. Wilder mostly got outclassed by the better boxer again but I thought he showed quite a bit as well by staying in there as long as he did and even hurting Fury into the later rounds. He redeemed himself after all the nonsense that came after the second fight.

That's two amazing HW fights in the last few weeks. I don't think either one was necessarily the fight to make but they both delivered. Hopefully we get more of the best fighting the best moving forward.

 

[Northerner]

lol you realize the argument I’m making isn’t an uncommon one, right? People routinely have him in the top 5 hardest punchers ever, take a look around for yourself. It’s hilarious that you’re basically incredulous about this to the point where you’re being a condescending jackwagon about a relatively common opinion

To quote legendary heavyweight Evander Holyfield “Every time he hits guys, they don’t move. Don’t make it too complicated: That tells you what you need to know.”

he does not know nearly as much about boxing as almighty Northerner tho

as for fights I’ve seen hundreds. Bring something to the table. An actual argument. Not your condescending bullshit. Also I’m not arguing about Wilders resume, I’m arguing about how hard he hits. Stop moving goalposts

Sadly, it's a sign of the times. EVERYTHING - every moment, every person, every fad, every athlete, every everything - is the greatest ever.


Wilder was an overrated fighter. Nothing new. Luckily for him, he's apparently worth $30 million, so if he even has a few IQ points, he'll be fine for the next 20 lifetimes.

 

[Fire Sweeney]

I'm still thinking that if Fury was half-serious in his preparation this fight doesn't last more than 3 rounds. Wilder is an absolute joke of a boxer.

 

[Northerner]

I'm still thinking that if Fury was half-serious in his preparation this fight doesn't last more than 3 rounds. Wilder is an absolute joke of a boxer.

That's kind of what it looked like to me. Wilder is so overrated.


I would love to see Fury destroy Joshua, but since Joshua (another imposter, IMO) just lost, that fight isn't in the cards for the near future.

 

[CDJ]

Sadly, it's a sign of the times. EVERYTHING - every moment, every person, every fad, every athlete, every everything - is the greatest ever.


Wilder was an overrated fighter. Nothing new. Luckily for him, he's apparently worth $30 million, so if he even has a few IQ points, he'll be fine for the next 20 lifetimes.

Nobody is debating the merits of wilders resume or technical ability, strictly his punching power. I don’t know how many times I have to tell you that

How exactly do you think Wilder became a champion? It’s because he has a death touch, just watch the Luis Ortiz fight. Completely outclassed but he only had to land 1 and the person doesn’t move

But northerner knows more than Holyfield and pretty much every boxing analyst and Wilder isn’t even in the conversation for all time great punching power apparently. Bob Arum has forgotten more about boxing than you know and he seems to think he belongs up there. Disregard the million KO’s he has in the first few rounds. He’s got pillow paws and became champ due to technical prowess apparently lmao

 

[K Fleur]

People are seriously questioning Wilder's knockout power?

The whole thing with him is that he is not a technically skilled boxer but his insane power makes up for it.

Last night is something that should be overwhelmingly celebrated by boxing and combat sport fans. Especially since this is a sport that is so near death that it has allowed Jake Paul to become one of it's biggest draws.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Sharing - fight from the seats. Cool

 

[Over the volcano]

Nobody is debating the merits of wilders resume or technical ability, strictly his punching power. I don’t know how many times I have to tell you that

How exactly do you think Wilder became a champion? It’s because he has a death touch, just watch the Luis Ortiz fight. Completely outclassed but he only had to land 1 and the person doesn’t move

But northerner knows more than Holyfield and pretty much every boxing analyst and Wilder isn’t even in the conversation for all time great punching power apparently. Bob Arum has forgotten more about boxing than you know and he seems to think he belongs up there. Disregard the million KO’s he has in the first few rounds. He’s got pillow paws and became champ due to technical prowess apparently lmao

Yup

Wilder is 100% in the conversation for greatest one punch power. He’s just a whole new breed. Liston was what, 6’? Tyson was maybe 5’ 10”

 

[Avsboy]

Wilder has punching power in his right hand with the cross. Other boxers have had similar power but in a variety of punches, left and right hand, as well as some technical ability. The closest comparable is young Foreman, but Foreman could hurt someone with both his hands and didn't need to wind up his right hand. He was much stronger than Wilder overall and is considered the greatest power puncher.

 

[Over the volcano]

Wilder has punching power in his right hand with the cross. Other boxers have had similar power but in a variety of punches, left and right hand, as well as some technical ability. The closest comparable is young Foreman, but Foreman could hurt someone with both his hands and didn't need to wind up his right hand. He was much stronger than Wilder overall and is considered the greatest power puncher.

If we’re talking one punch KO power- he’s absolutely right there with Big George (who’s Little George by comparison)

 

[Prominence Problem]

That was a really good fight last night. I went to a friend's fight party to watch it. 11 of us were all standing yelling, I have no voice today. Really good time! I got fooled last fight and Wilder lost me some good coin, not this time. No way I was betting against Fury.

 

[Avsboy]

If we’re talking one punch KO power- he’s absolutely right there with Big George (who’s Little George by comparison)

Wilder is #1 at 93.2% KO ratio, so you're right. But I'd guess most with that right hand. I'd still put Foreman and a few others ahead as having stronger overall punches, because "powerpuncher" =/= "one punch KO power"

 

[CDJ]

 

[DaaaaB's]

Wilder's punching power is right up there with Foreman, Shavers and Tyson for best all the time at heavyweight.

 

[I am not exposed]

@I am not exposed , tell me you saw this classic cracker of a fight last night?

I did not! Was at a thanksgiving party. Heard it was a great one!

 

[Northerner]

Wilder is #1 at 93.2% KO ratio, so you're right. But I'd guess most with that right hand. I'd still put Foreman and a few others ahead as having stronger overall punches, because "powerpuncher" =/= "one punch KO power"

I saw that. Wilder is ranked #1 ALL TIME in KO percentage.


IMO, it just goes to show how mediocre all the scrubs are that he has fought. He's fought a bunch of bums, IMO.