Player Discussion Alexis Lafreniere

[huerter]

The stalker said that they were the two best prospects we've ever had so either put the stalker on ignore or stop doing revisionist history.

 

[DanielBrassard]

The stalker said that they were the two best prospects we've ever had so either put the stalker on ignore or stop doing revisionist history.

what does this mean

 

[JCProdigy]

I understand your point and you are right except for one teams scout. The Detroit scout had Tim #1 before the draft not 3 years later. All the others had Laf #1.

I bet that even with that scouts opinion, if Detroit had 1OA, the GM would still pick Lafreniere. Also you have to remember how scouting works with different AORs. You can fall in love with a player just because you've seen them much more than another. Hell, some Ranger scout thought Kratsov was the right choice and convinced Gorton to draft him. lol

 

[NickyFotiu]

I bet that even with that scouts opinion, if Detroit had 1OA, the GM would still pick Lafreniere. Also you have to remember how scouting works with different AORs. You can fall in love with a player just because you've seen them much more than another. Hell, some Ranger scout thought Kratsov was the right choice and convinced Gorton to draft him. lol

Im wondering if Gorton was 100% sure what route he would go whether a trade or another player. I say that because usually if a team is 100% sure they let the pick know. The Rangers knew they had the pick for months but didn't tell Laf till his name was called. I found that a bit unusual.

 

[JCProdigy]

Im wondering if Gorton was 100% sure what route he would go whether a trade or another player. I say that because usually if a team is 100% sure they let the pick know. The Rangers knew they had the pick for months but didn't tell Laf till his name was called. I found that a bit unusual.

My guess is that Gorton didn't do so simply because there is absolutely no benefit to doing so and yes, there might be an almost unrealistic chance that another team comes at him with a Godfather offer ex Senators offer the 3 and 5 plus Tkachuk, etc.

 

[JHS]

Will Cuylle played on powerplay unit 2 last night. Not Laf. That’s all you need to know about how Lavi feels about Laf already.

 

[haohmaru]

Was god awful on Boston’s winning goal

Yeah but my crystal ball is out for repairs.

 

[Kords]

When Gorts was talking with Laf and his family on draft night he told him “he had a hard time keeping it a secret” and Laf replied, “yeah, me too”. I watched that happen with my own two eyes on t.v.

Don’t know where it’s coming from that Gorton waited until draft day but it’s not true.

 

[NickyFotiu]

When Gorts was talking with Laf and his family on draft night he told him “he had a hard time keeping it a secret” and Laf replied, “yeah, me too”. I watched that happen with my own two eyes on t.v.

Don’t know where it’s coming from that Gorton waited until draft day but it’s not true.

Go watch the draft video. They said it on there. Maybe they didn't know when they said it. I didn't see that part.

 

[Daves a mess]

This is getting Rosie O'Donnell kinda ugly.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I thought Laf did pick up his effort last night. I have to give him credit for that. Sadly I still don't see the kind of player we hope for.

 

[Daves a mess]

I bet that even with that scouts opinion, if Detroit had 1OA, the GM would still pick Lafreniere. Also you have to remember how scouting works with different AORs. You can fall in love with a player just because you've seen them much more than another. Hell, some Ranger scout thought Kratsov was the right choice and convinced Gorton to draft him. lol

Jovo had pics of Gorts at the zoo trying to kiss a Llama.

 

[Kords]

Go watch the draft video. They said it on there. Maybe they didn't know when they said it. I didn't see that part.

Ahh gotcha. Here’s the vid I was talking about

 

[AirGut]

Will Cuylle played on powerplay unit 2 last night. Not Laf. That’s all you need to know about how Lavi feels about Laf already.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Ahh gotcha. Here’s the vid I was talking about

Thank you. I must have skipped that and forgot. On the NHL draft video they said Gorton hadn't told anyone and Laf was nervous because he didn't know. If you are sure who you will pick there is no reason not to let the guy know.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Will Cuylle played on powerplay unit 2 last night. Not Laf. That’s all you need to know about how Lavi feels about Laf already.

They both played on PP2 last night.

 

[TGWL]

He’s at worst a middle 6 NHL player that puts up 35-40 points. Obviously not anywhere near his expectations but still a serviceable guy

The only other guy who was talked about as a potential for #1 was Byfield who can’t sniff the league full time.

You can say they should have taken Stuezle in hindsight but the entire hockey world would have laughed at the Rangers taking him 1

That eventually becomes a replaceable guy.

 

[Rangerboy030]

Whatever your view is on Laffy at this stage, and the likelihood of him ever becoming (or getting close to becoming) the player we drafted him to be and that everyone thought he was going to be, the situation is approaching untenable at this stage.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Will Cuylle played on powerplay unit 2 last night. Not Laf. That’s all you need to know about how Lavi feels about Laf already.

I haven't seen the stats but I thought I saw Laf out on the PP. Was that a mistake?

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I knew when that ping ball hit it would be a disaster, well at least he won’t break the cap

 

[NickyFotiu]

Whatever your view is on Laffy at this stage, and the likelihood of him ever becoming (or getting close to becoming) the player we drafted him to be and that everyone thought he was going to be, the situation is approaching untenable at this stage.

It sucks to have been so close but not ending up with an elite player. I don't blame anyone. Just the way things go with the draft sometimes.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Wonder if Chicago is going to start Bedard on the third line. Maybe by Year 3 he’ll be PKing with Vesey

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Ahh gotcha. Here’s the vid I was talking about

ugh. Watching that video. So much ugh right now.

 

[TGWL]

Wonder if Chicago is going to start Bedard on the third line. Maybe by Year 3 he’ll be PKing with Vesey

Bedard is more gifted than Laf. He's very good with his hands. He's shifty. His legs are thick AF. His shot is already amazing. He keeps his feet moving and attacks defenders. Laf was more seen as a potential top line, power forward. I know we talk about not developing players, but I think even on this team, Bedard finds success and doesn't get moved around like Laf.

 

[CLW]

Whatever your view is on Laffy at this stage, and the likelihood of him ever becoming (or getting close to becoming) the player we drafted him to be and that everyone thought he was going to be, the situation is approaching untenable at this stage.

Yup, it's undeniable now. Laf's slump is prolonged, going back to the previous season and the playoffs. This is more than just a struggling kid. The underlying numbers are brutal and unacceptable on any team, add the 1OA pedigree and it's a trainwreck. There is no line change or teammates that can get him going if he has checked out. He can't hope to ride somebody else's coattails to salvation.

I've always supported all the kids, but the change of scenery trade needle is twitching now. He needs to find himself and get down to the nitty gritty as a Ranger starting right now. Gutcheck time Laffy.

Having said that I wish I believed it. He'll be traded before the TDL is what my spidey sense tells me. Knowing the league there is some GM who will make a deal that is above what the fans expect. Pedigree, PR and appearances matter in this league.

Wonder if Chicago is going to start Bedard on the third line. Maybe by Year 3 he’ll be PKing with Vesey

B. needs to have a strong defensive stick and not deke so much. And go out of his way to finish his checks to show he's a Man.