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Player Discussion Alexis Lafrenière

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Doctyl said:
17 of Timbo’s points are on the power play. It’s insane how much people underestimate the importance of PP minutes for total production.
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He’s on pace for 50 points. Laf on pace for about 32. Stutzle averages 18 minutes per game, to Lafreniere’s 13:57-14mins, with no PP time. It just goes to show you how potent narratives are when people start buy into them. They clearly don’t pay any attention to that stuff, nor do they watch Laf play. I would have some respect if someone openly admitted that they don’t watch enough of him or whatever.
 
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ThirdEye said:
Slowly but surely figuring it out. He's still very far from a finished product.

Too bad that a guy shooting 18% cannot supplant a guy who has all of 3 goals this season on a top 3 PP playing with some of the best playmakers in the league.

I understand not wanting to fix something that's not broken but please for the love of God give Laf a chance.
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Next year.
 
Anthony5967 said:
He’s on pace for 50 points. Laf on pace for about 32. Stutzle averages 18 minutes per game, to Lafreniere’s 13:57-14mins, with no PP time. It just goes to show you how potent narratives are when people start buy into them. They clearly don’t pay any attention to that stuff, nor do they watch Laf play. I would have some respect if someone openly admitted that they don’t watch enough of him or whatever.
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And that's just on this board. Some of the comments are borderline ignorant.
 
ThirdEye said:
Slowly but surely figuring it out. He's still very far from a finished product.

Too bad that a guy shooting 18% cannot supplant a guy who has all of 3 goals this season on a top 3 PP playing with some of the best playmakers in the league.

I understand not wanting to fix something that's not broken but please for the love of God give Laf a chance.
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Doubt Laf would have any more goals on the top PP than Strome does. That's not a role conducive to scoring.
 
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He played better in the second half last year too. He might just be a second half player. And while skating does need to improve, he needs to keep his feet moving. Too often he glides. He has been moving his feet more lately and it is leading to good things. Hopefully this is just the beginning.
 
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Inferno said:
I mean...fine...but it's still easily the weakest part of his game and a very natural thing to point to that needs improvement.
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I like that he's picking it up as much as the next guy, and I've never called Laf a bust, but there was valid reason for concern both last season and this season.

There were definitely times in which he struggled with skating, speed, or turnovers, though.
 
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Yeah, I mean he’s just TWENTY… of course there’s things he can work on. Skating included. I think people can get a tad defensive over constructive criticism of the player because its kind of blending in with the tsunami of “bust” non constructive nonsense that flies around. Haha.
And yeah Stutzle is going to be a real good player, Raymond too, and others. I think people take shots because Stutzle in particular was being used to run down Laf for a lot of this season. That’s not Stutzle fault. Haha. Fans are crazy, that’s about it.
 
It is a unique situation we have with our powerplay. Its been years since we had one this good, but at the same time Kakko and Lafreniere basically get no touches on it, which has been a hinderance to their development.

Even if Strome is gone, I'm not sure who else would come off that unit, so again one of them will be the odd man out. Considering he basically gets no quality power play time, Lafreniere's numbers are starting to look solid for a second year player.
 
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Speedtrials said:
It is a unique situation we have with our powerplay. Its been years since we had one this good, but at the same time Kakko and Lafreniere basically get no touches on it, which has been a hinderance to their development.

Even if Strome is gone, I'm not sure who else would come off that unit, so again one of them will be the odd man out. Considering he basically gets no quality power play time, Lafreniere's numbers are starting to look solid for a second year player.
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Maybe you can rotate them into PP1.
 
I don't know how much of a hindarance lack of PP1 time has been with regards to development. Its more of a hindrance to stats. I'd say the bigger hindrance with development has been poor linemates/poor chemistry with linemates. Guys like Lundell manage to produce on the third line with minimal PP time because of the style Florida plays and him having quality linemates. With Chytil looking better recently Laf looks good on the third line. And once Kakko comes back they will have him, Vatrano or Copp at RW which is a step above Goodrow and like 15 steps above Gauthier.
 
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rangersfansince08 said:
I don't know how much of a hindarance lack of PP1 time has been with regards to development. Its more of a hindrance to stats. I'd say the bigger hindrance with development has been poor linemates/poor chemistry with linemates. Guys like Lundell manage to produce on the third line with minimal PP time because of the style Florida plays and him having quality linemates. With Chytil looking better recently Laf looks good on the third line. And once Kakko comes back they will have him, Vatrano or Copp at RW which is a step above Goodrow and like 15 steps above Gauthier.
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The development piece is that it lets him see the ice better with far more space and time, if he then has success on it, it then forces teams to back up off him even at 5v5, which then gives him more time and space.
 
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You have the emergence of Chytil, you sign Copp, and you put Laf on PP1 (although I’d like to see Kakko there too), and suddenly Strome becomes very expendable.
 
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duhmetreE said:
As stupid as it might sound, it may be better off, cap wise, to put Kakko there. He'd already be under contract/bridged for 2+ seasons.

Paying Laffy w/ PP1 production could get expensive
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I almost wonder if the NYR know this and that's why they're trying to balance everything the best they can so that they can ice a competitive team going forward? It makes you wonder. Because does Gallant honestly not think Laf or Kakko can play the bumper as effectively as Strome?
 
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I almost wonder if the NYR know this and that's why they're trying to balance everything the best they can so that they can ice a competitive team going forward? It makes you wonder. Because does Gallant honestly not think Laf or Kakko can play the bumper as effectively as Strome?
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It would make logistical sense.

Our PP would be good with any schlub there tbh. Vatrano currently makes the most sense
 
The thing with Strome on the power play makes sense to me: it's five bros who are probably all close friends, Strome makes mental mistakes but his ability to see the game and talk about the game is obviously very good, and when he does make plays he doesn't need a ton of time on the puck. And over the long term, the unit almost always looks better with him than without him.

Lafreniere and Copp would probably both do fine if they were given a long run on PP1; Kakko has such a unique style that I'm not so sure, though it would be good for him if it taught him to be more decisive in certain areas and move the puck faster. Like was Kevin Hayes ever a good PP player for us? I'm not so sure he was
 
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