Player Discussion Alexis Lafrenière

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His confidence seems to be growing. Albeit at a snail’s pace, but growing nonetheless.

Hopefully he can string a few performances together, and perhaps even score a couple.
 
Kreider is signed through 26-27 but luckily Panarin's contract only runs until 25-26.

All we have to do is be patient until the 26-27 season and then we'll see what Laf can really do.
 
He needs to keep scoring. He's following his usual season MO. Get an assist, nothing for four games, and then he gets an assist. This is the 5th time this season he's gotten an assist after getting nothing four games prior.
 
I remember waking up from a nap reading that we got the 1st overall pick. Elation would be an understatement.

NYPost article maybe, something like: "Rangers Win Lottery, Right to Draft Alexis Lafreniere".

And I said to myself, imagine he busts? That would be the most Rangers thing ever. We were already slightly concerned with Kakko at this time.

..And here it is, nearing the breaking point. If he's not producing something like 0.7 Points/Game between now and thru next season, can we officially call him a bust? That's like 57 points over 82 games.

For God's sake. There's a 90% chance he's a complete Yakupov/Daigle at this point.

It's so depressing.
 
I remember waking up from a nap reading that we got the 1st overall pick. Elation would be an understatement.

NYPost article maybe, something like: "Rangers Win Lottery, Right to Draft Alexis Lafreniere".

And I said to myself, imagine he busts? That would be the most Rangers thing ever. We were already slightly concerned with Kakko at this time.

..And here it is, nearing the breaking point. If he's not producing something like 0.7 Points/Game between now and thru next season, can we officially call him a bust? That's like 57 points over 82 games.

For God's sake. There's a 90% chance he's a complete Yakupov/Daigle at this point.

It's so depressing.
And Kakko is on pace for 36pts in his D+4
The guy was penciled in for 65+ his rookie season, if you would’ve posted that he’ll get 36 in his D+4 you would’ve been called a troll. But people will cope and blame Panarin or whoever else for our issues. Our 1st & 2nd overall are literally producing at the worst rates for any 1st & 2nd overalls in basically NHL history.
 
I don’t play enough hockey to understand how a LW can’t learn to play RW

Laf will get better but he’s blocked at LW. It’s so weird that getting 2nd or 3rd pick would of been best to draft Stutzle since he’s a C

Also getting 1st Hughes over Kakko
 
I don’t play enough hockey to understand how a LW can’t learn to play RW

Laf will get better but he’s blocked at LW. It’s so weird that getting 2nd or 3rd pick would of been best to draft Stutzle since he’s a C

Also getting 1st Hughes over Kakko
One really needs to question the whole “best player available” mantra.

Im not going to kill the Rangers for these picks, because they absolutely were the consensus. But when it comes to drafting wingers, you really, really need to consider the importance of the position when making these selections. The player has to be much, much better than the best available C or D given how relatively unimportant the position is.

Ovechkin is the consensus 1OA? Ok. That’s one thing.

But when it comes to the non-generational types (we knew Kakko and Laf were not that), this is an important consideration for me. What’s more valuable, an 80 point winger or a 60 point center? This might be stretching the comparison, but I personally want the center every time.
 
One really needs to question the whole “best player available” mantra.

Im not going to kill the Rangers for these picks, because they absolutely were the consensus. But when it comes to drafting wingers, you really, really need to consider the importance of the position when making these selections. The player has to be much, much better than the best available C or D given how relatively unimportant the position is.

Ovechkin is the consensus 1OA? Ok. That’s one thing.

But when it comes to the non-generational types (we knew Kakko and Laf were not that), this is an important consideration for me. What’s more valuable, an 80 point winger or a 60 point center? This might be stretching the comparison, but I personally want the center every time.
Especially considering the franchise’s hole at center, I can sympathize with this mindset.

I’ve always been shocked the Rangers never tried to develop Lafreniere as a center. From all scouting reports, despite not playing the position everyone seemed to think his style of play was conducive for an easy shift over. Granted, I think it would be a mistake to try that now. But I’ll always wonder what it could have looked like if we sent him to the AHL right away and tried to develop him as a center.
 
One really needs to question the whole “best player available” mantra.

Im not going to kill the Rangers for these picks, because they absolutely were the consensus. But when it comes to drafting wingers, you really, really need to consider the importance of the position when making these selections. The player has to be much, much better than the best available C or D given how relatively unimportant the position is.

Ovechkin is the consensus 1OA? Ok. That’s one thing.

But when it comes to the non-generational types (we knew Kakko and Laf were not that), this is an important consideration for me. What’s more valuable, an 80 point winger or a 60 point center? This might be stretching the comparison, but I personally want the center every time.
Well we would have ended up with Byfield… so…
 
One really needs to question the whole “best player available” mantra.

Im not going to kill the Rangers for these picks, because they absolutely were the consensus. But when it comes to drafting wingers, you really, really need to consider the importance of the position when making these selections. The player has to be much, much better than the best available C or D given how relatively unimportant the position is.

Ovechkin is the consensus 1OA? Ok. That’s one thing.

But when it comes to the non-generational types (we knew Kakko and Laf were not that), this is an important consideration for me. What’s more valuable, an 80 point winger or a 60 point center? This might be stretching the comparison, but I personally want the center every time.
I think that's why Byfield was originally considered to be the 1OA for at least a year before the draft. I remember people coming up with so many scenarios where we could somehow trade up to the #1 spot to draft him.

Well we would have ended up with Byfield… so…
Considering our depth at center then (or lack thereof), I would have taken Byfield.
 
I think that's why Byfield was originally considered to be the 1OA for at least a year before the draft. I remember people coming up with so many scenarios where we could somehow trade up to the #1 spot to draft him.


Considering our depth at center then (or lack thereof), I would have taken Byfield.
And we’d be worse off than we are now. Laf was the consensus 1OA. in scout polls it was pretty much unanimous, it wasn’t like Byfield was close. Unless we traded down to 2OA we simply couldn’t risk picking Byfield. And you think Laf is catching a rash of shit? He’d have been know as Bustfield on here halfway through D+1.
 
And we’d be worse off than we are now. Laf was the consensus 1OA. in scout polls it was pretty much unanimous, it wasn’t like Byfield was close. Unless we traded down to 2OA we simply couldn’t risk picking Byfield. And you think Laf is catching a rash of shit? He’d have been know as Bustfield on here halfway through D+1.
That may be.....I'm just recalling (or trying to) the events leading up to the draft....I don't recall Laffy's name coming up until later...kind of like Kakko....he seemed to come out of nowhere.
 
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I think that's why Byfield was originally considered to be the 1OA for at least a year before the draft. I remember people coming up with so many scenarios where we could somehow trade up to the #1 spot to draft him.


Considering our depth at center then (or lack thereof), I would have taken Byfield.
Lol what?? Laf was about as consensus 1st overall as they come for years. He was hyped since he was like 15. He was supposed to be a tier below McDavid. On MacKinnons level.
 
Lol what?? Laf was about as consensus 1st overall as they come for years. He was hyped since he was like 15. He was supposed to be a tier below McDavid. On MacKinnons level.
Yeah, Laf was the front runner for a couple of years but I think D-1 Byfield did have some traction.
And yeah, Laf was talked about having elite, but not generational, potential.
 
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