Player Discussion Alexis Lafrenière

[Rangers in 7]

Shiny new toy. Laff tore it up in Juniors too. I think a lot of fans have an instant gratification addiction but I also think the front office has it. The rebuild turned into a 1yr build. We laugh at Ottawa for the Zib trade. Lets not be Ottawa.

Laf was the best player on team Canada at 17. Yet Othmann is now better? People on here are hilarious

 

[Kords]

Lord have mercy on this forum board when Othmann struggles his first season

 

[Rangers in 7]

Lord have mercy on this forum board when Othmann struggles his first season

He’s going to score 40 his first season. Can’t you see the skill?

 

[mrmovies779]

Laf will be fine.A young kid struggling to be consistent isnt anything new.I have full faith he will turn it around,find his game and be a weapon for us

 

[Rangers in 7]

Laf will be fine.A young kid struggling to be consistent isnt anything new.I have full faith he will turn it around,find his game and be a weapon for us

Everyone remember when the bolts were going to trade stamkos……..

 

[RickChartraw]

let him sit a game. man we all want more out of him.

 

[Peltz]

Lol this is the same fanbase that would’ve given up on Chytil a few years ago. Now he’s an asset.

Same with Kakko.

And Laf has higher upside with his ability to shoot the puck. He just needs a bit of tough love which he’s getting with the demotion.

You need to be patient with these players. Trading him now would be dumb.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Everyone remember when the bolts were going to trade stamkos……..

Yeah except by the time Stamkos was at the same point in his career as Lafreniere he put up a 50 goal 90 point season and was on his way towards a second. Lafreniere doesn't even have 90 points in his entire career.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Yeah except by the time Stamkos was at the same point in his career as Lafreniere he put up a 50 goal 90 point season and was on his way towards a second. Lafreniere doesn't even have 90 points in his entire career.

That second season you are referring to he had 25 even strength goals, for comparison laf had 19

Obviously stamkos was a great player. I’m just using it as reference for a team considering moving a player out too soon.

If laf was given the same opportunities as stamkos was he could have easily netted another 10 on the powerplay or so. Obviously not 50 but I’m confident if given the time on ice he’d be in s much better position

 

[TheDirtyH]

I mean you can quote me if you want to paraphrase me. IMO you have to be living under a rock or a Laffy fan boi to not recognize how the Rangers are feeling about Othmann. Lafreniere’s skating hasn’t improved 3 years in, and neither has his conditioning. He’s huffing wind after a 20 second shift.

On the contrary, it's exactly the problems persisting with our young forwards that makes me hedge against penciling in othmann for anything.

 

[DanielBrassard]

That second season you are referring to he had 25 even strength goals, for comparison laf had 19

Obviously stamkos was a great player. I’m just using it as reference for a team considering moving a player out too soon.

If laf was given the same opportunities as stamkos was he could have easily netted another 10 on the powerplay or so. Obviously not 50 but I’m confident if given the time on ice he’d be in s much better position

There's an assumption that if you just place a guy on the PP hes gonna be able to produce yet Laf has never really looked good on the PP ever. There's no real reason to suggest if you just force-fed him powerplay time he'd be producing like you suggest. Even if he did He also shot almost 20 percent last season to score those 19 goals and more than half of his goals were tap ins. I get your point about not giving up too early on a player but A. I think we've passed that point with Lafreniere and B. comparing him to stamkos is not useful because they aren't similar in any way other than draft position.

 

[bbny]

On the contrary, it's exactly the problems persisting with our young forwards that makes me hedge against penciling in othmann for anything.

Can agree with that to a degree. My point bringing Othmann up wasn't because I think the Rangers expect him to step in and be a world beater, like everyone expected Laf to be as a 1OA, but I do think they might believe he's ready to be worked in on the team.

 

[Rangers in 7]

There's an assumption that if you just place a guy on the PP hes gonna be able to produce yet Laf has never really looked good on the PP ever. There's no real reason to suggest if you just force-fed him powerplay time he'd be producing like you suggest. Even if he did He also shot almost 20 percent last season to score those 19 goals and more than half of his goals were tap ins. I get your point about not giving up too early on a player but A. I think we've passed that point with Lafreniere and B. comparing him to stamkos is not useful because they aren't similar in any way other than draft position.

Your tap in argument is irrelevant when you consider kreider scored 50 last year and I’d say 40 of them were from less then 5 foot out

Laf has never been given an opportunity to play on PP1 consistently. He’s been thrown out there with Trouba on the point who just gets the puck and fires. Like EVERY single time.

 

[bbny]

Your tap in argument is irrelevant when you consider kreider scored 50 last year and I’d say 40 of them were from less then 5 foot out

Laf has never been given an opportunity to play on PP1 consistently. He’s been thrown out there with Trouba on the point who just gets the puck and fires. Like EVERY single time.

Trouba anywhere near a PP would be one of the most frustrating things about this team if they used that unit more, but that's a discussion for another thread

 

[Rangers in 7]

Trouba anywhere near a PP would be one of the most frustrating things about this team if they used that unit more, but that's a discussion for another thread

Agreed

 

[ReddestRum]

Laf played 4 periods with Zibanejad and had 2 goals in his most recent promotion, i think quality of ice time is an issue

Oh god. You mentioning Laf goals when the last time he scored a goal was 9 games a go. In that span, he's averaged more games than shots on goal. Of course the kid needs more ice time to try and average 1.5 shots a game in 5 games, or whatever. Christ..

Between this thread and the main boards the cult of Lafreniere continues to never disappoint.

 

[duhmetreE]

Player A - 36g - 4g - 10a - 14pts
Player B - 36g - 5g - 9a - 14pts

I’ll hold the vets accountable before I hold a kid. That’s just me though

He can be better, there’s no doubt… come with the same energy to the vets getting paid millions with experience.

Hypocrites and double standards ( talking about the coaching staff )

 

[ReddestRum]

I mean you can quote me if you want to paraphrase me. IMO you have to be living under a rock or a Laffy fan boi to not recognize how the Rangers are feeling about Othmann. Lafreniere’s skating hasn’t improved 3 years in, and neither has his conditioning. He’s huffing wind after a 20 second shift.

Not saying Oth is going to be the next thing because, after Laf you just never know how player is going to adjust to the NHL, but the fanboying at a 1OA 3rd liner keeps showing how embarrassing this fanbase is. At least keep it in-house in this thread, but nope, gotta' Laf cult and defend him on the mains too.

 

[huerter]

Player A - 36g - 4g - 10a - 14pts
Player B - 36g - 5g - 9a - 14pts

I’ll hold the vets accountable before I hold a kid. That’s just me though

He can be better, there’s no doubt… come with the same energy to the vets getting paid millions with experience.

Hypocrites and double standards ( talking about the coaching staff )

The only player in the NHL who fits either of those statlines is Ty Dallandrea, but regardless, points schmoints.

 

[ReddestRum]

Player A - 36g - 4g - 10a - 14pts
Player B - 36g - 5g - 9a - 14pts

I’ll hold the vets accountable before I hold a kid. That’s just me though

He can be better, there’s no doubt… come with the same energy to the vets getting paid millions with experience.

Hypocrites and double standards ( talking about the coaching staff )

I think it's less being a hypocrite and more realizing that, even if the vets are having a few terrible games, it's literally the vets in the top 5 point production spots on this team with the rest of the pack WAY below in production.

 

[bhamill]

Not saying Oth is going to be the next thing because, after Laf you just never know how player is going to adjust to the NHL, but the fanboying at a 1OA 3rd liner keeps showing how embarrassing this fanbase is. At least keep it in-house in this thread, but nope, gotta' Laf cult and defend him on the mains too.

I’m not sure that people saying Lafreniere, while being inconsistent, is showing potential and having confidence that he will put it together eventually is quite fanboying or cultish… I mean I don’t think I’ve seen one person say that they dont want more out of him or say he’s been playing great. I’m also not sure why you seem so worked up over the whole thing. Haha. But I AM sure there are miles of middle ground between the blind fanboy position you seem assign people who haven’t given up on a D+3 player scoring at an almost .5 ppg clip and your own apocalyptic position.

 

[Circus86]

After Gallants comments im not wondering anymore why we fail to develop our top draft picks.

 

[huerter]

After Gallants comments im not wondering anymore why we fail to develop our top draft picks.

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I just watched the Gallant video. Judging from the general reaction I was afraid that the full video would be more damning than just the quotes that were tweeted which I felt were just basic coach speak. So I put off watching it.

But now that I've watched it... FAKE NEWS!!!! It was even more benign than the tweets. A nothing burger!

 

[gravey9]

Envy of the league?
They're 17th.

And yes, any changes would involve the youth since the only other alternatives are low ceiling veterans like Vesey, Goodrow, Blais, or doing nothing.

Don’t say low ceiling veteran too loud or you might get the coach excited.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

As much as I hate to admit it, I think Laf might be served by a "conditioning" assignment. Two weeks away from GG would probably do wonders for his psyche.