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Sea Bass Neely said:
Just got in from Providence-Portland... Koko had the GWG and was the #1 star of the game as the P-Bruins won. Griffith added an empty netter with seconds remaining for the 3rd goal.

Koko's GWG was on the power play, off a very nice feed in tight from Cunningham. The young Russian is still centering Pastrnak's line, while Spooner played left wing. I really like Koko's game.

I was happy to see Spoons playing wing in Providence as that's his best chance of helping the parent club, but he IMO was not as visible in this particular game as he usually is (i go to a lot of Prov games). In fairness to him, i was paying a little less attention and not watching as intently as i normally do... i went to the game with an old high school teammate of mine and was catching up with him, i was distracted.

Trotman played well from what i could tell and so did Jeremy Smith in goal. He had some nice saves. Not saying Spooner was bad, just that he was not as ever-present as i've grown accustomed to seeing him be as a top player. That's all for now in case anyone cares.
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Thanks for the update.

PS Let me guess, "Be My Baby" is one of your favorites. :)
 
Mainehockey33 said:
Does Campbell have a NTC?


He doesn't... I wonder if Chia could trade him/If anyone would want him.
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Just as I believe a fan base can often be guilty of valuing a player far more than they have warranted, I also believe there are many players fan bases under appreciate and Soupy is one.

When healthy, he is extremely solid in this system and while I`m not of the belief that he would be irreplaceable, I also don`t think what he brings and who "might" be available to fill his spot is as easy as some think
 
Clode will put koko on 4th line, 5 minutes a games with campbell and caron and will destroy him all his confidence , telling to the world how he is bad defensivly
Than will ask a trade
 
I worry about Claude health and I don't think Koko and Pasta are good for him. You could probably get a steady second pairing defenseman and a vet 4th line winger for these two
 
Koko seem to be a better offensive and creative clone of gallagher...it will be great fo see him play very well in another jersey after clode destroy him in boston
We will need one more beer watching the 4th line winger of 30 years old we got for him
 
I don't know how Koko will break into the lineup but it's a good problem to have.
 
since76 said:
Clode will put koko on 4th line, 5 minutes a games with campbell and caron and will destroy him all his confidence , telling to the world how he is bad defensivly
Than will ask a trade
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My god give it a rest.

If he got called up and played well, he wouldn't be playing 5 minutes a night.

Every thread I see a response from you in is something extremely negative and outlandish, does it ever get tiresome?
 
Guiledoom said:
My god give it a rest.

If he got called up and played well, he wouldn't be playing 5 minutes a night.

Every thread I see a response from you in is something extremely negative and outlandish, does it ever get tiresome?
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I adore soderberg, bergeron and i have great expectation for hamilton
You see i am not always negative )))))
 
Guiledoom said:
My god give it a rest.

If he got called up and played well, he wouldn't be playing 5 minutes a night.

Every thread I see a response from you in is something extremely negative and outlandish, does it ever get tiresome?
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The words of clode in public place about spooner was insane and deserved a kick in balls and slap in façe....it is so easy cheap and coward to blame young players and don't touch veterans....like lucic and many other
 
since76 said:
The words of clode in public place about spooner was insane and deserved a kick in balls and slap in façe....it is so easy cheap and coward to blame young players and don't touch veterans....like lucic and many other
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Lucic got called out a handful of times as a youngster by Julien. And he also got sent to the 4th line a number of times. As has Marchand. But now Lucic is a veteran earning $6 mil a yea whose been a key member of a few very successful teams, and in pro sports, coaches don't have much success if they're ripping key players in public.

Ryan Spooner on the other hand is a forward with a questionable defensive game who is struggling to get out of the A. I think there's a bit of a difference.
 
since76 said:
The words of clode in public place about spooner was insane and deserved a kick in balls and slap in façe....it is so easy cheap and coward to blame young players and don't touch veterans....like lucic and many other
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Good coaches will call out younger players whom they know can contribute. But, that young player is getting told he can't do it his own way. Has to be the way the coach wants him to play. If Clode didn't think anything of the kid, he wouldn't have said anything. Coaching 301. Don't get that one until you're an upperclassman
 
What's next for Koko? Does he stay with this organisation, is he traded. He's surely too good to just stay in the As
 
ashnathan said:
What's next for Koko? Does he stay with this organisation, is he traded. He's surely too good to just stay in the As
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the logic dictates that someone will be traded sooner than later at this point...

we have some dominoes to fall into place before we can draw this picture in stone. I think first we must decide on soderberg but the smart money says that he is headed to ufa and will be gone.

then I think the next step is to basically let spooner and kokohlachev sort it out who replaces soderberg. spooner has the initial lead now after this good quarter season hes putting in but I don't think its as simple as saying that this decides the contest.

im going to bet that the trade value of spooner is much higher than koko now... so this offseason or next camp when the team is making its decision, the decision might end up effected by other teams trade offers to us.

either way the team is dealing from a position of great strength and credit has to go to chiarelli and the scouting staff and developmental team for a job very well done
 
Alberta_OReilly_Fan said:
the logic dictates that someone will be traded sooner than later at this point...

we have some dominoes to fall into place before we can draw this picture in stone. I think first we must decide on soderberg but the smart money says that he is headed to ufa and will be gone.

then I think the next step is to basically let spooner and kokohlachev sort it out who replaces soderberg. spooner has the initial lead now after this good quarter season hes putting in but I don't think its as simple as saying that this decides the contest.

im going to bet that the trade value of spooner is much higher than koko now... so this offseason or next camp when the team is making its decision, the decision might end up effected by other teams trade offers to us.

either way the team is dealing from a position of great strength and credit has to go to chiarelli and the scouting staff and developmental team for a job very well done
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Careful, those words get you 10 lashes around here!
 
Alberta_OReilly_Fan said:
the logic dictates that someone will be traded sooner than later at this point...

we have some dominoes to fall into place before we can draw this picture in stone. I think first we must decide on soderberg but the smart money says that he is headed to ufa and will be gone.

then I think the next step is to basically let spooner and kokohlachev sort it out who replaces soderberg. spooner has the initial lead now after this good quarter season hes putting in but I don't think its as simple as saying that this decides the contest.

im going to bet that the trade value of spooner is much higher than koko now... so this offseason or next camp when the team is making its decision, the decision might end up effected by other teams trade offers to us.

either way the team is dealing from a position of great strength and credit has to go to chiarelli and the scouting staff and developmental team for a job very well done
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I agree Spooner is the guy to move in a trade as he will net more than khoklachev will. Ideally packaging Spooner with a roster playing making salary like Eriksson or smith hopefully fixes the defensive holes. A lot of this is dependent on how Boston views khoklachev however and overall it would be a risky move due to that fact. I agree soderberg is gone and if Spooner goes too that's a lot of eggs in the koko basket to be that 3rd line/PP scoring center man, considering his (lack of) track record in the NHL. The acquisition of Zach Phillips helps as far as high upside options go with pro experience. Overall if the return is significant (legit top 3 dman/young NHL dman with top 3 upside) I'd move spooner, eriksson, subban to obtain it. Trusting in the development of other young forwards to fill the voids could pay big dividends
 
Montecristo said:
I agree Spooner is the guy to move in a trade as he will net more than khoklachev will. Ideally packaging Spooner with a roster playing making salary like Eriksson or smith hopefully fixes the defensive holes. A lot of this is dependent on how Boston views khoklachev however and overall it would be a risky move due to that fact. I agree soderberg is gone and if Spooner goes too that's a lot of eggs in the koko basket to be that 3rd line/PP scoring center man, considering his (lack of) track record in the NHL. The acquisition of Zach Phillips helps as far as high upside options go with pro experience. Overall if the return is significant (legit top 3 dman/young NHL dman with top 3 upside) I'd move spooner, eriksson, subban to obtain it. Trusting in the development of other young forwards to fill the voids could pay big dividends
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I think if you move Spooner it would be to make room for Soderberg not Koko. There's no reason Koko can't start next year as our 4th line center. Young, cheap roster player. Count me as one of the people that would like to move spooner for a legit defenseman(Jones...). I don't want to move Loui but I'd definitely move Subban if give the option.
 
I do think we need to see if Chiarelli remains the GM. If he does, I think Sweeney is out and Ferguson is the right hand man. If Chiarelli is gone there is a good chance Sweeney is the Boston GM and his view of Khokhlachev and Spooner is probably different than Chiarelli's.

I'll comment when I see who is the GM and how the next month goes for both Ryan and Koko. If it ended today, Spooner stays and has a shot at 3rd line center or at worst 4th next year- and Koko starts in Providence and they reassess as season goes on what the parent team needs and how these two are playing
 
DKH said:
I do think we need to see if Chiarelli remains the GM. If he does, I think Sweeney is out and Ferguson is the right hand man. If Chiarelli is gone there is a good chance Sweeney is the Boston GM and his view of Khokhlachev and Spooner is probably different than Chiarelli's.

I'll comment when I see who is the GM and how the next month goes for both Ryan and Koko. If it ended today, Spooner stays and has a shot at 3rd line center or at worst 4th next year- and Koko starts in Providence and they reassess as season goes on what the parent team needs and how these two are playing
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I don't think this kid will ever play for the B's.
 
No real pressure to promote Koko yet. People cite the wings all the time as the way to develop your players. And they aren't shy to keep their youngsters in the A until they're ready.
 
DKH said:
I do think we need to see if Chiarelli remains the GM. If he does, I think Sweeney is out and Ferguson is the right hand man. If Chiarelli is gone there is a good chance Sweeney is the Boston GM and his view of Khokhlachev and Spooner is probably different than Chiarelli's.

I'll comment when I see who is the GM and how the next month goes for both Ryan and Koko. If it ended today, Spooner stays and has a shot at 3rd line center or at worst 4th next year- and Koko starts in Providence and they reassess as season goes on what the parent team needs and how these two are playing
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I think the odds of Chia getting fired are very low.
 
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