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The idea for acquiring any center is to play with Kaprizov and Fiala for years. They are the only two untouchable pieces in the organization.
Value of: Alex Turcotte
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The idea for acquiring any center is to play with Kaprizov and Fiala for years. They are the only two untouchable pieces in the organization.
KingsOfCali25
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Understandable. But LA isnt looking to move guys and if they did it would be for a need. LA needs a high end scoring winger to go with Kaliyev. Kaprizov fits the bill. All the other package prospects really doesn't do anything of LA. It would have to be a 1 for 1 deal. LA's management has already stated that they are in a numbers game with how many contracts they can give out. They are close to the 50 limit and have their own prospects to sign. They can't take on a lower package of prospects nor shouldn't when/if trading any of their top prospects.
Having a hard time remembering a prospect for prospect trade in which both were highly regarded. Would imagine there is a reason for that.
Unfortunately as the Wild know all to well, if they want a chance at a 1C they are likely going to have to draft him. Sure, either LA prospect would be a tremendous add or moving to their spot at #2, but I do not see a realistic path to those options.
Unfortunately as the Wild know all to well, if they want a chance at a 1C they are likely going to have to draft him. Sure, either LA prospect would be a tremendous add or moving to their spot at #2, but I do not see a realistic path to those options.
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The problem the Wild face is they can no longer afford to wait to draft and develop one. They need to make something happen and make it happen fast. Even if that something is significantly overpaying.
As a Wild fan, I wholeheartedly agree.
But if that’s the position, are you comfortable moving the #9 as a base for either LA prospect or someone like Cirelli? Would either of those teams do that? I do not know. I just think they’d get more traction on that as opposed to the prospects/players the Wild could make available right or wrong
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I would drive the #9 pick to the airport myself if LA would move Turcotte or Vilardi for it.
Do the Kings draft Drysdale or a winger then? I thought Byfield was a lock.
Why would they want all of Kopitar, Turcotte, Byfield, and Vilardi? Seems like a waste
I’m not a Kings fan, just commenting on who I think would be expendable if they draft Byfield and now have Kopitar, Turcotte, Byfield, and Vilardi.
Seems foolish to not trade one for help in other areas of the lineup
Everyone calm down. Villardi is going nowhere.
We waited the injury out and took all the risks.
With that said, i would trade Turcotte for an equally qualified winger
We waited the injury out and took all the risks.
With that said, i would trade Turcotte for an equally qualified winger
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It is more like Kopitar, Byfield, Turcotte, Madden, Kupari, Thomas, JAD, Lizotte
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Is there a talent gap because one was taken 5 and the other 12, or is there a talent gap because of their individual traits?
Explain the talent gap to me. By any means, I don't see how it's "huge".
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Nope. Vilardi is more talented, but has less value because of his back injury history. I would rather keep him since it seems like his back issue maybe over.
I would do Turcotte for Detroit’s 1st. We need Drysdale more than another center with Byfield/Kopitar/Vilardi as our centers.
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Why would Detroit do that though? They have their choice of center or defense prospects that project to be better players than Turcotte.
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Well, Rossi. Perfetti if you think he can be one. I more meant they could choose a center prospect (Rossi) or a defense prospect (Drysdale) that both project to be better than Turcotte, not that they have several options at each position. Maybe I phrased that poorly.
Is Rossi or Perfetti more highly rated than Turcotte? I haven't seen that anywhere.
DET might take Drysdale/Sanderson but with Hronek and Seider on the right side I can't see it happening.
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Yes, both Rossi and Perfetti are considered better prospects than Turcotte. I don't see Detroit taking Drysdale either, but they could, and he would be a more valuable prospect than Turcotte. Sanderson doesn't belong in this conversation.
DeagleJenkins
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im not sure anyone has compared rossi to turcotte before today. outside of his size though the kid looks pretty special. i dont think 5'9 is tragic. sure being 6'4 is easier but not a must for nhl C.
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The prospects that will be available at 5 certainly have the same talent as Vilardi, they're just not all centers. Besides, we were talking about Turcotte for 5, not Vilardi.
Turcotte's d+1 wasn't that impressive, and I think teams would still be worried about Vilardi and his back issues.
So it's not like they are trading surefire future allstars here. I could see a potential deal out there, there are teams willing to bet on a center prospect like that. Teams like MIN, NYR, WPG, CBJ all looking for a center and who have winger/defense assets to move.
I could see Vilardi for Boldy. Maybe Columbus could come up with a package (Anderson+).
So it's not like they are trading surefire future allstars here. I could see a potential deal out there, there are teams willing to bet on a center prospect like that. Teams like MIN, NYR, WPG, CBJ all looking for a center and who have winger/defense assets to move.
I could see Vilardi for Boldy. Maybe Columbus could come up with a package (Anderson+).
Brodin and Boldy do anything for LA fans?
That is likely on the high end for what I think the Wild could stomach for a player who has yet to play at the NHL level I think though. Brodin would look extremely good stapled to Doughty for the balance of their careers if I’m honest. I think LA is looking for a LHD and Brodin has the ability to move to either side pending development of prospects over time. Only one year on his deal so he’d need to be extended though.
That is likely on the high end for what I think the Wild could stomach for a player who has yet to play at the NHL level I think though. Brodin would look extremely good stapled to Doughty for the balance of their careers if I’m honest. I think LA is looking for a LHD and Brodin has the ability to move to either side pending development of prospects over time. Only one year on his deal so he’d need to be extended though.
go4hockey
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We should draft Byfield kid has to many tools and learning for Kopitar is perfect. To me it’s not a waste because there is no guarantee any or all of the kids pan out, if they all pan out then it’s easy to either move one of them to wing or move one of them in a trade for what the team needs as they are nearing in on being a playoff team. It makes no sense to move any big time prospects or picks until you know what you have and what the team needs. It really sucked for LA when we had like 7/8 centers on our team in 2012.
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