Alex Turcotte or Jesse Puljujärvi

[Raccoon Jesus]

3 points in 5 games?! Stop the presses, OMG.

You literally said 'without the offense' because you didn't know those numbers and now you're trying to walk it back, it's okay.

3 points in 5 games, looks the part of a top sixer, and has an ever growing role. I know you don't care about the narrative, but if you can't even be assed to check the box score, what are you even doing but trolling?

You've made your own bed here and everyone can see it. have fun!

 

[Garbageyuk]

You literally said 'without the offense' because you didn't know those numbers and now you're trying to walk it back, it's okay.

You've made your own bed here and everyone can see it. have fun!

Lmao it’s 5 games; I’m not walking back shit. This 3 points in 5 games is literally the highlight of Turcotte’s NHL career and you’re trying to dunk on me over it lmao.

“Didn’t know those numbers”.

Fantastic

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Lmao it’s 5 games; I’m not walking back shit. This 3 points in 5 games is literally the highlight of Turcotte’s NHL career and you’re trying to dunk on me over it lmao. “Didn’t know those numbers”. Fantastic

Hes not even 40 games into his career.... no sample size on turcotte is good sample size yet.

This is literally going to be his first full NHL season, and hes looked pretty damn good so far.

He actually looked solid last year too in his games, bit unlucky at times... prob deserved more chances playing up in the line up, but id call Kings coaching/management questionable at best.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

This is a good poll and difficult to pick. I chose JP because of health concerns to AT but if he can stay healthy, then AT might just show why he was drafted so early.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

3 points in 5 games?! Stop the presses, OMG.

You realize he leads the team in even strength points per 60, GF%, and is first amongst forwards in xGF%.

I don’t know what more you need to prove the validity of this sample.

 

[Garbageyuk]

You realize he leads the team in even strength points per 60, GF%, and is first amongst forwards in xGF%.

I don’t know what more you need to prove the validity of this sample.

It doesn’t matter if it’s valid because it’s 5 games. Sam Gagner had an 8 point game one time; he was the best player in the world that night. If the season ended mid November, Brian Savage would have like 4 Art Ross Trophies. My point is: who tf cares; it’s 5 games. Keep up the mental Gymnastics though.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

It doesn’t matter if it’s valid because it’s 5 games. Sam Gagner had an 8 point game one time; he was the best player in the world that night. If the season ended mid November, Brian Savage would have like 4 Art Ross Trophies. My point is: who tf cares; it’s 5 games. Keep up the mental Gymnastics though.

It’s actually crazy a Montreal fan is saying this lol

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

It doesn’t matter if it’s valid because it’s 5 games. Sam Gagner had an 8 point game one time; he was the best player in the world that night. If the season ended mid November, Brian Savage would have like 4 Art Ross Trophies. My point is: who tf cares; it’s 5 games. Keep up the mental Gymnastics though.

You act like he’s some 28 year old career minor leaguer who had a fluky sample.

You’ve had it explained to you already that he has the ability to sustain this over a longer sample. He’s struggled with injuries and the Kings development system stifles young talent and it takes a longer time than it should for a lot of their prospects.

 

[Garbageyuk]

It’s actually crazy a Montreal fan is saying this lol

Is it really? By your logic, we should know better than anyone.

You act like he’s some 28 year old career minor leaguer who had a fluky sample.

You’ve had it explained to you already that he has the ability to sustain this over a longer sample. He’s struggled with injuries and the Kings development system stifles young talent and it takes a longer time than it should for a lot of their prospects.

That’s nothing but hopium and conjecture on your part. “You’ve had it explained to you” lmao. He’ll be 24 this season and he’s been ass over any sample longer than a handful of games his entire career thus far. Do you think Joshua Roy is anything special? Because Roy is a better prospect than Turcotte at this point, and I don’t expect much out of him either.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

That’s nothing but hopium and conjecture on your part. “You’ve had it explained to you” lmao. He’ll be 24 this season and he’s been ass over any sample longer than a handful of games his entire career thus far. Do you think Joshua Roy is anything special? Because Roy is a better prospect than Turcotte at this point, and I don’t expect much out of him either.

I see you’re just out to stir up trouble, so I’ll bow out of this discussion, but this isn’t true and if you had any knowledge on the subject you’d know it.

 

[Garbageyuk]

I see you’re just out to stir up trouble, so I’ll bow out of this discussion, but this isn’t true and if you had any knowledge on the subject you’d know it.

According to you, someone not agreeing with you = “stirring up trouble”. Got it.

Also, hilarious how you wouldn’t touch the Roy point, because it’s not good for your narrative.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

You act like he’s some 28 year old career minor leaguer who had a fluky sample.

You’ve had it explained to you already that he has the ability to sustain this over a longer sample. He’s struggled with injuries and the Kings development system stifles young talent and it takes a longer time than it should for a lot of their prospects.

What's nice for Turcotte is that he is developing chemistry with the golden child in Laferriere and they're carrying around Foegele right now in what's a maybe prototypical 2010s-era 'grind line'

So he should benefit from the increased ice time but softest matchups while he continues to blaze his trail, it looks like so many good things are to come. He could have had a couple more points yesterday. Similar vibes to Byfield before he suddenly popped--the process is there, the outcome is almost there.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

What's nice for Turcotte is that he is developing chemistry with the golden child in Laferriere and they're carrying around Foegele right now in what's a maybe prototypical 2010s-era 'grind line'

So he should benefit from the increased ice time but softest matchups while he continues to blaze his trail, it looks like so many good things are to come. He could have had a couple more points yesterday. Similar vibes to Byfield before he suddenly popped--the process is there, the outcome is almost there.

That sounds great. Hoping when they switch things up after a few bad games and move Byfield back to the middle that Turcotte is at least still getting top 9 minutes, even on the wing. Playing center isn’t valuable enough if it means you’re only playing 8 minutes a game.

 

[Garbageyuk]

You act like he’s some 28 year old career minor leaguer who had a fluky sample.

You’ve had it explained to you already that he has the ability to sustain this over a longer sample. He’s struggled with injuries and the Kings development system stifles young talent and it takes a longer time than it should for a lot of their prospects.

The timing of such a condescending comment was just . 1 point in 6 games since.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

The timing of such a condescending comment was just . 1 point in 6 games since.

If anything is condescending, it’s you trying to bump a 6 game cold streak of essentially a rookie (who plays like 12-13 minutes per game with little/no PP time). We agreed to discuss this after 50 games. I guess the coldest streak of the season was too tantalizing for you. You had to win the argument no one else here even remembers.

I see that discussions with you can’t be taken in good faith.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

The timing of such a condescending comment was just . 1 point in 6 games since.

Lmao

Edit: also Puljujarvi--1 point and -3 since that date as well. Great work.

The only line that works on the Kings is the one that Turcotte moves to every game

He just got moved up to jumpstart Kempe and Kopitar...and guess where the offense came from in a win

He's been our best forward, bar none--his stat lines look like Byfield's did just before his breakout. Be patient, there's plenty of time for your bookmark to age like a milk carton on the LA pavement.

57.71 CF%--tops amongst kings forwards
61.36 HDCF%--second only to danault
65.08% XGF%--tops amongst Kings forwards
an absurd 81.82% GF%--that's 9th amongst LEAGUE forwards

 

[Garbageyuk]

If anything is condescending, it’s you trying to bump a 6 game cold streak of essentially a rookie (who plays like 12-13 minutes per game with little/no PP time). We agreed to discuss this after 50 games. I guess the coldest streak of the season was too tantalizing for you. You had to win the argument no one else here even remembers.

I see that discussions with you can’t be taken in good faith.

Lol, now “no else remembers”, and a couple weeks is too long ago to matter . Yeah, that’s about what I expected. Also, he had 3 points in 5 games and you and others were trying to dunk on me over it. This “coldest streak of the season” is literally the majority of the season so far, and is par for the course for him for his career.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Lmao

Edit: also Puljujarvi--1 point and -3 since that date as well. Great work.

The only line that works on the Kings is the one that Turcotte moves to every game

He just got moved up to jumpstart Kempe and Kopitar...and guess where the offense came from in a win

He's been our best forward, bar none--his stat lines look like Byfield's did just before his breakout. Be patient, there's plenty of time for your bookmark to age like a milk carton on the LA pavement.

57.71 CF%--tops amongst kings forwards
61.36 HDCF%--second only to danault
65.08% XGF%--tops amongst Kings forwards
an absurd 81.82% GF%--that's 9th amongst LEAGUE forwards

Lmao. Meanwhile, you’ve got a multiple Selke winner scoring above a ppg pace, but the guy with 1 point in his last 6 games who is 11th on the team in scoring has been your best forward. Get off it dude. How did you seriously type that?! Lol

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Lmao. Meanwhile, you’ve got a multiple Selke winner scoring above a ppg pace, but the guy with 1 point in his last 6 games who is 11th on the team in scoring has been your best forward. Get off it dude. How did you seriously type that?! Lol

It's pretty easy

Watching every game

Providing evidence to back it up

But I guess loudly lol'ing and lmao'ing is a better argument, I concede

 

[Garbageyuk]

It's pretty easy

Watching every game

Providing evidence to back it up

But I guess loudly lol'ing and lmao'ing is a better argument, I concede

How do you seriously not understand that those fancy stats you keep posting are junk over small sample sizes?

According to those stats, Struble and Xhekaj are MTL’s two best
defensemen, by a landslide. Does that sound right to you? Anyone with a clue knows that’s not the case, but here you are claiming those type of stats as “evidence”.

Results matter.