Value of: Alex Tuch

[njdevil26]

The Devils need another top six forward in my opinion

If the Sabres are making moves, is Alex Tuch available? What would it take to get him?

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[SnS]

Doubt Buffalo moves him. They’ll probably look to move other forwards. Tuch is probably at the bottom of the list.

 

[Uberpecker]

Sabres need more players like Tuch, not trade the one they have.

 

[MB3]

Tuch is 28 and has 2 years left on his deal. Buffalo will likely never be a competitive hockey team with Tuch wearing their jersey. Why on earth would they white knuckle him?

 

[DickSmehlik]

Doubt Buffalo moves him. They’ll probably look to move other forwards. Tuch is probably at the bottom of the list.

While that was true at one point, I think if the past month has told us anything it is that most everyone in the locker room is expendable.

And while I wouldn't necessarily dump him for futures, I wouldn't be opposed to trading him for the right return.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Take anything you like that's not nailed down from Edmonton. Firsts, seconds, prospects, whatever.

Tuch is everything we need (besides a goalie)

 

[Fjordy]

Maybe he might be available for some package hockey deal, but that's for me.

 

[njdevil26]

I can understand he's the type of player you need... but if you guys start offloading pieces, you won't be contending during the rest of his contract... wouldn't you rather get some assets that can be developed or flipped?

 

[SnS]

While that was true at one point, I think if the past month has told us anything it is that most everyone in the locker room is expendable.

I mean. You could possibly be right, but at the same time I don’t think Tuch wants to be traded.

Buffalo fans know the situation more, but I think it would be a mistake to move Tuch. There’s other more reasonable pieces off their roster, IMO

 

[SnS]

I can understand he's the type of player you need... but if you guys start offloading pieces, you won't be contending during the rest of his contract... wouldn't you rather get some assets that can be developed or flipped?

I don’t think Buffalo needs a rebuild or to tear it down, as an outsider.

They need more players in the mold of Tuch. They also need a new GM and coach, again in my opinion.

I’d a deal with NJD is made, the price will not be something Devils fans want.

 

[Djp]

The Devils need another top six forward in my opinion

If the Sabres are making moves, is Alex Tuch available? What would it take to get him?

Hes is unlikely getting traded. You arent getting him for spare parts.

 

[Uberpecker]

I can understand he's the type of player you need... but if you guys start offloading pieces, you won't be contending during the rest of his contract... wouldn't you rather get some assets that can be developed or flipped?

Why would Buffalo start off-loading pieces, let alone Tuch. They're the youngest team, anyway, and Alex is actually one of the few veterans.
So even if they were commiting to a rebuild, players like him need to stay on board. If anything, we've seen how detrimental a rebuild without veteran leadership is.
Heck, that's still the problem right now.

 

[unicornpig]

moore and spence. for tuch

 

[Djp]

While that was true at one point, I think if the past month has told us anything it is that most everyone in the locker room is expendable.

And while I wouldn't necessarily dump him for futures, I wouldn't be opposed to trading him for the right return.

Trading Tuch for magic beans would be a PR nightmate. Hes a local kid and fan favorite.

A name player would need to be coming back like Hirscher invs large deal

 

[tsujimoto74]

No.

 

[Chainshot]

So I’m gonna predict how the rest of this thread unfolds: people will be upset that the rationale for trading him for futures and spare parts doesn’t work so they’ll get upset. They will then shot on the player or the reasoning. Someone else will make a ridiculous counter offer or request (wait, I see that has already happened) that is outlandish and unlikely to happen.

And then it will get kicked up every couple days as fans of the teams involved keep talking past one another.

 

[HaNotsri]

From a value standpoint I'd say 1st+2nd but that means nothing to Buffalo.

I don't see the team doing it. Tuch is probably popular among management and a "culture" guy. So the trade return would have to be something stupid for Tuch to be traded.

 

[Beerz]

No we don't want prospects..no we don't want picks.

If you are in the mix of the playoffs a deal is probably not in the cards because we want upgraded roster players.

 

[Chainshot]

From a value standpoint I'd say 1st+2nd but that means nothing to Buffalo.

I don't see the team doing it. Tuch is probably popular among management and a "culture" guy. So the trade return would have to be something stupid for Tuch to be traded.

Or it would have to be something that was relationship based, something off ice. Like needing to be close to his wife’s family. And that narrows things down to pretty much two teams: Vancouver, where his wife is from or Seattle, which is close enough to be “nearby”. But that’s predisposing that there is some situation that we don’t know about that’s going to cause that to happen.

 

[toddkaz]

Sabres need more players like Tuch, not trade the one they have.

He has 1 goal in his last 9 games and 3 points. He is the prototypical Sabres player.

Shows up when he feels like it.

 

[HaNotsri]

Or it would have to be something that was relationship based, something off ice. Like needing to be close to his wife’s family. And that narrows things down to pretty much two teams: Vancouver, where his wife is from or Seattle, which is close enough to be “nearby”. But that’s predisposing that there is some situation that we don’t know about that’s going to cause that to happen.

I bet Pegula is the kind of owner that gets great ideas in the shower every morning.

 

[Uberpecker]

He has 1 goal in his last 9 games and 3 points. He is the prototypical Sabres player.

Shows up when he feels like it.

Didn't we say the same thing about pretty much every other player before they were traded and became great on other teams. Other than maybe ROR who still publicly confessed his loss of love for the game mere months before leading his new team to the cup.
Tuch had a no quit reputation before coming here that's why many among the fan base wanted him.

Until proven otherwise, it should be assumed it's the team that makes players give less than 100 percent. There's more than enough evidence for that, already.

 

[toddkaz]

Didn't we say the same thing about pretty much every other player before they were traded and became great on other teams. Other than maybe ROR who still publicly confessed his loss of love for the game mere months before leading his new team to the cup.
Tuch had a no quit reputation before coming here that's why many among the fan base wanted him.

Until proven otherwise, it should be assumed it's the team that makes players give less than 100 percent. There's more than enough evidence for that, already.

no, I don't think Eichel or Reinhart was that way

 

[Uberpecker]

no, I don't think Eichel or Reinhart was that way

I specifically remember people complaining about Jacks body language, and him only showing up when he felt like it. As well as Sam being streaky and only getting going once the season was more or less over.
People were absolutely questioning their effort and ability to carry a franchise.
Now, with this core it's the same thing all over again.

It's what happens when supremely talented players realize they are in a situation where they can't win. Sad but true. How many highly drafted players do you want the Sabres to spoil and squander before admitting it needs to start with the organization.

They already had the young cup-winning core. Didn't even make the playoffs while they were here.

Now they're stacked with former high first rounders, still can't sniff the playoffs.

 

[gritdash60]

Would love Alain Toch in Detroit, 100% an actually good player just in that dumpsterfire team.