Alex Nylander

[RememberTheRoar]

George Michael. Clearly a bottom six talent.

Look, there’s always money in the banana stand.

 

[clydesdale line]

Inside the Alex Nylander trade: How Anders Sorensen gave the Blackhawks exclusive insight

Nice article about Nylander and Sorensen being an influence in getting him here. Even if he starts in Rockford, seems like he'll be in good hands down there.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Look, there’s always money in the banana stand.

 

[ChiHawk21]

Inside the Alex Nylander trade: How Anders Sorensen gave the Blackhawks exclusive insight

Nice article about Nylander and Sorensen being an influence in getting him here. Even if he starts in Rockford, seems like he'll be in good hands down there.

ugh. anders

 

[BobbyJet]

Inside the Alex Nylander trade: How Anders Sorensen gave the Blackhawks exclusive insight

Nice article about Nylander and Sorensen being an influence in getting him here. Even if he starts in Rockford, seems like he'll be in good hands down there.

Seems Anders had Stan's ear in the trade, Nylander for Joker.

 

[bwana63]

Inside the Alex Nylander trade: How Anders Sorensen gave the Blackhawks exclusive insight

Nice article about Nylander and Sorensen being an influence in getting him here. Even if he starts in Rockford, seems like he'll be in good hands down there.

Good article, thanks. Had no idea Nylander's ties to Chicago and the Hawks ran so deep. I think he makes the team. If he doesn't, I was afraid he might sulk (beyond initial disappointment), but with Sorenson there, I highly doubt it.

This is the epitome of a change of scenery trade. Really hoping a fresh start does wonders.

 

[featherhawk]

sure hope he makes good on this chance.

IMO he is going to be placed in an opportunity to succeed and play with the likes of Toews, Kane, Cat, Strome, and perhaps Dach.

the future looks bright for the hawks and this guy could play a big role in that

 

[featherhawk]

found this video and thought some may want to watch it.

 

[piteus]

Look, there’s always money in the banana stand.

 

[bwana63]

re: banana stand

Most of the time, I really want to know what something means. This is not one of those times.

 

[LordKOTL]

What happened to... players should not get their spots for free without proving themselves.... you know...earning your spot and all.
- I get it that you don't think that, per say, you just say Colliton will probably do this.

Alexander Nylander has not earned a top 6 spot, why should he be automatically put to 1st or 2nd line???.
His AHL performance has been weak so far. Olofsson for example was miles ahead of him in every way last season
and now he (Olofsson looks like a lock for Sabres roster from the get go. - Nylander didn't impress me at the camp either

Alexander Nylander is just not good enough player to play with likes of Toews,Kane,Strome,DeBrincat.

PS. this is not an attack towards Nylander, nor do i hate one of the Hawks players
nor does it make me a not a fan, or some BS like that. - this is my honest (like always) valuation of him as a talent
/ hockey player, for me he just is not good enough, he is like his brother but bigger minus the talent/skill

It tends to go right out the window when you have coach/GM/upper management ego in the way--especially if the player is a gamble like Nylander is. If the coach/GM/Upper management takes a risk on a player who'd not done much, they want them to succeed and they'll give said player every opportunity to succeed. Sometimes, like Strome, it works. Sometimes, like Runblad, it fails epically. The book is out on Nylander since he's played exactly 0 games for the Blackhawks. We. Just. Don't. Know. His AHL/NHL numbers could be what he is, and he could fail. His ceiling could be what he is and the 'hawks could bring it out of him, and he could succeed, but at this point anyone who thinks they have him pegged as a bonafied success or a bonafied failure are deluding themselves.

Besdies, aside from Strome, Debrincat, Toews, and Kane, who last year proved they were de facto top-6? Maybe Saad, but it's a push. Most of the fill-ins that worked just had chemistry and weren't the main drivers that TKDS were. So, if they want to give Nylander a shot, why not? As long as he's not Sikura and a complete offensive black hole there's no reason to not give him a shot. My only worry is that he isn't working that JC/Stan keep him put there past his use-by date--like they did with Sikura.

 

[bwana63]

but at this point anyone who thinks they have him pegged as a bonafied success or a bonafied failure are deluding themselves.

This. +infinity

Stan's rolling the bones here. FWLIW, I think it's a good gamble.

Also, FWIW, it's bona fide.

 

[ColdSteel2]

This. +infinity

Stan's rolling the bones here. FWLIW, I think it's a good gamble.

Also, FWIW, it's bona fide.

I don’t know....

Spoiler

No, he’s right, unless talking about a Popeye’s big box.

 

[Robsker]

Excellent post. I had not viewed it this way. I was thinking of whether he had done anything to earn a shot - relative to other prospects. From that assessment, certainly Kubalik, Saarela, Wedin, Perlini (if on the team), Kurashev, and Dach (maybe even Quinville) are more worthy of an audition on the Hawks. That places him as the 7th or 8th in line. But, perhaps you are right, maybe he gets an audition even though he has not earned one based upon his performance since drafted. Could be. maybe his draft position and the fact that we just traded for him in conjunction with the reality of Strome's emergence having done little prior - perhaps all this points to a forthcoming audition for Nylander - ahead of others who have out-produced him.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Excellent post. I had not viewed it this way. I was thinking of whether he had done anything to earn a shot - relative to other prospects. From that assessment, certainly Kubalik, Saarela, Wedin, Perlini (if on the team), Kurashev, and Dach (maybe even Quinville) are more worthy of an audition on the Hawks. That places him as the 7th or 8th in line. But, perhaps you are right, maybe he gets an audition even though he has not earned one based upon his performance since drafted. Could be. maybe his draft position and the fact that we just traded for him in conjunction with the reality of Strome's emergence having done little prior - perhaps all this points to a forthcoming audition for Nylander - ahead of others who have out-produced him.

Strome had shown a lot more post-draft than Nylander. Strome was around a ppg in the AHL and Nylander hasn't come close to that there.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Excellent post. I had not viewed it this way. I was thinking of whether he had done anything to earn a shot - relative to other prospects. From that assessment, certainly Kubalik, Saarela, Wedin, Perlini (if on the team), Kurashev, and Dach (maybe even Quinville) are more worthy of an audition on the Hawks. That places him as the 7th or 8th in line. But, perhaps you are right, maybe he gets an audition even though he has not earned one based upon his performance since drafted. Could be. maybe his draft position and the fact that we just traded for him in conjunction with the reality of Strome's emergence having done little prior - perhaps all this points to a forthcoming audition for Nylander - ahead of others who have out-produced him.

None of those guys except Dach and maybe Kubalik/Kurashev have done anything to distance themselves from each other. Certainly not enough to “deserve it” more than Nylander.

As far as I’m concerned they’re all a part of a big group of kids trying to earn a spot.

 

[LordKOTL]

None of those guys except Dach and maybe Kubalik/Kurashev have done anything to distance themselves from each other. Certainly not enough to “deserve it” more than Nylander.

As far as I’m concerned they’re all a part of a big group of kids trying to earn a spot.

Basically, yeah. No single player should be handed a spot or kept there past their use by date, and no player should be effectively be barred from a slot if they show they can handle it better than anyone else in contention...in a perfect world. Unfortunately the world isn't perfect

 

[bwana63]

As far as I’m concerned they’re all a part of a big group of kids trying to earn a spot.

Exactly. That said, Nylander's going to get a very thorough audition. Sink or swim.

 

[dougd]

I don’t understand this reference....?

I know he means he's gonna deliver an overhander.

 

[BobbyJet]

Basically, yeah. No single player should be handed a spot or kept there past their use by date, and no player should be effectively be barred from a slot if they show they can handle it better than anyone else in contention...in a perfect world. Unfortunately the world isn't perfect

This was one character trait of Q that bothered me: Most of the time he would decide on a player almost immediately, sometimes before he played a game for Hawks. Whether right or wrong in his assessment he would take his sweet time in changing his view, if ever and usually never. Much like BWC. Maybe that's the reason he likes Q so much.

Hopefully JC will show more patience.

 

[hawksrule]

This was one character trait of Q that bothered me: Most of the time he would decide on a player almost immediately, sometimes before he played a game for Hawks. Whether right or wrong in his assessment he would take his sweet time in changing his view, if ever and usually never. Much like BWC. Maybe that's the reason he likes Q so much.

Hopefully JC will show more patience.

Who did Q refuse to give a fair shot?

 

[BobbyJet]

Who did Q refuse to give a fair shot?

Actually it works both ways: players who Q gave up on pretty much immediately or too quickly and players he insisted on playing way too much (and/or in positions they weren't suited for). I'm not gonna rehash the past though.

 

[hawksrule]

Actually it works both ways: players who Q gave up on pretty much immediately or too quickly and players he insisted on playing way too much (and/or in positions they weren't suited for). I'm not gonna rehash the past though.

On whom did he unfairly give up?

 

[bwana63]

On whom did he unfairly give up?

Kempny, for one. But let's not go down that rabbit hole.

 

[LordKOTL]

This was one character trait of Q that bothered me: Most of the time he would decide on a player almost immediately, sometimes before he played a game for Hawks. Whether right or wrong in his assessment he would take his sweet time in changing his view, if ever and usually never. Much like BWC. Maybe that's the reason he likes Q so much.

Hopefully JC will show more patience.

Time will tell. IMHO JC's handing of Sikura makes him a wash so far with Q. JC deserves a ton of credit for getting Gus on the #1 PP unit and Keith out of there, something Q failed at. Flipside: I get the feeling Q wouldn't have left Sikura on the top line well-past his use-by date since I don't think Q would have gotten an unnatural Sikura fetish.

We'll see this coming season. I'm trying to keep my mind open at this point.