Player Discussion Alex Newhook

[River Meadow]

If only we could get a late 1s and early 2nd for him in the next draft that would be something.

Not a chance in hell that happens.

 

[vokiel]

Once Newhook properly slots into 3C role he’ll be fine - which happens once Dvo is dealt by deadline.

He doesn't play active hockey enough to be a C. You've ever seen him fore-checking, pursuing the puck carrier effectively? I can't remember any particular sequence where I thought he was doing great at C.

I think our best bet is to find a hockey trade to a team who needs a fast scoring winger asap.

 

[teamfirst]

Carbonneau was not a slouch. He could score 20+ goals and get 50 points every season. + winning te majority of his faceoffs.

Ya but he was not raise in the mecka of hockey....the you S of A

Do i have to put the emoji........oh well, there it is

 

[salbutera]

Carbonneau was not a slouch. He could score 20+ goals and get 50 points every season. + winning te majority of his faceoffs.

Agreed - but his line was always viewed as a shutdown line matching up vs opposition top line. The way Boston Jr Eagles & MidFairfield play shuns the concept of a shutdown line instead focusing on constant offensive attack driven by puck possession - Chara coaches the Jr Eagles now and has continued the philosophy implemented by Hughes

Whether Hughes & MSLs approach actually works w Habs is TBD, but I’m positive that’s their current strategy

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Once Newhook properly slots into 3C role he’ll be fine - which happens once Dvo is dealt by deadline.

Beck will have something to say about that next season. Newhook is wing or bust on this team moving forward.

 

[austin316]

Zero assists in 26 games this season

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

Zero assists in 26 games this season

On pace for 15.77 goals, it would be funny if he scored 20 with zero assists.

 

[salbutera]

In his 3 full NHL seasons Newhook’s been consistent in 30-34 pts - last year he was on pace for 50pts

IMO it’s a bit early to say he’s fallen off the cliff w 70% of the season left to play

So much of creating secondary offense for this season's Habs team was built around having Laine in the lineup…

 

[teamfirst]

In his 3 full NHL seasons Newhook’s been consistent in 30-34 pts - last year he was on pace for 50pts

IMO it’s a bit early to say he’s fallen off the cliff w 70% of the season left to play

So much of creating secondary offense for this season's Habs team was built around having Laine in the lineup…

He would have to reach the cliff first

 

[River Meadow]

Zero assists in 26 games this season

What a useful player who gets involved in the play and gets rewarded for it,

Said no one ever.

 

[River Meadow]

Newhook in all alone.......

Doesn't even get a shot off.

BrUh

 

[That Habs Fan]

He took my criticism to heart

 

[Ozmodiar]

3rd line scorer with Beck and Roy. That’s how I see it long term.

He’ll have to learn to kill penalties.

Bottom 6 PK’ers: Armia Dvo Evans Anderson.
Non-PK’er: Gally Heineman

Need to keep 4 in the former group. At least.

 

[River Meadow]

Maybe we were wrong about Newhook?

What a SNIPE tonight!

 

[Paddy17]

On pace for 15.77 goals, it would be funny if he scored 20 with zero assists.

A Cy Young season!

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

That sauce pass to CC too.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

For the people on his case:

Positives:
PDO is awful and so is 5 on 5 shooting % when he's on the ice.
His IPP is terrible.
His chances for % is up from last year.
Expected goals for is lower than what it should be.
Avg speed is higher than last year.
Fenwick is up from last year.
He's less sheltered for faceoffs.

Negatives:
His SOG is down vs last year. 1.3 a game is too low.
His separation speed isn't really there.
Needs to build an identity as a player.

So all signs point to Newhook being unlucky. He should probably have as many assists as goals right now.

4 13 18 23 34 46

Those are 6 / 49 winning numbers pals

 

[Miller Time]

21 goals, 40 points in his last 82 NHL games at 23 years old.

Will be interesting to see what his 24 & 25 year old production looks like.

If he only plateaus, 20g/40pts is still very good production at his cap cost.

If he improves 20%... 25 goals/50points... That's a great value.

If he breaks out...30 goals 60points? We're talking a huge steal.

I think many of the hot take critics are far too quick to assume a 23 year old has reached his peak. Newhook is ahead of the curve for his draft class, and there's no reason to assume he's going to regress or plateau the next few seasons.

Future is bright

 

[teamfirst]

He played his best game of the season tonight but man do i feel for him not even a single assist after 27 games

 

[Rapala]

He doesn't play active hockey enough to be a C. You've ever seen him fore-checking, pursuing the puck carrier effectively? I can't remember any particular sequence where I thought he was doing great at C.

I think our best bet is to find a hockey trade to a team who needs a fast scoring winger asap.

Wait a minute we need one of those.

 

[vokiel]

Wait a minute we need one of those.

No we don't we already have too many of them.

 

[teamfirst]

21 goals, 40 points in his last 82 NHL games at 23 years old.

Will be interesting to see what his 24 & 25 year old production looks like.

If he only plateaus, 20g/40pts is still very good production at his cap cost.

If he improves 20%... 25 goals/50points... That's a great value.

If he breaks out...30 goals 60points? We're talking a huge steal.

I think many of the hot take critics are far too quick to assume a 23 year old has reached his peak. Newhook is ahead of the curve for his draft class, and there's no reason to assume he's going to regress or plateau the next few seasons.

Future is bright

Hey, i know a guy who has 24 in 25 at 19....jesus that's amasing, i'm not sure but i think his future is bright too , really liked Newhook game tonight hopes he continue on the same path.

 

[Eegs]

Best game he's played all year. Can he build on it!?

 

[Rapala]

No we don't we already have too many of them.

When 2 players have more than half of our goals you can't be serious.

 

[vokiel]

When 2 players have more than half of our goals you can't be serious.

Yes I am, Newhook's production is not enough to make this team win. We need a 2nd C a lot more than another goal scorer. More, we're getting Demidov next season, so Newhook should be considered an expandable piece. He sucks far less than Dach, so ... We may be able to patch our problems trading him.

It stinks, but that's what I see. Not enough impact, not enough versatility to play C. We can do better developing other prospects.