Player Discussion Alex Newhook

[Ozmodiar]

He missed almost half a season due to injury last year. The numbers he put up adjusted to 82 games was 25G and 32A. Not sure why he is not producing but it seems he can't find chemistry with anyone he plays with.

They’re up to their eyeballs in “lost 1/2 of last season” players. lol

 

[Rapala]

If he played like he did last game on that top line, I’d be fine. I don’t see the problem.

I think he’s starting to click there. People keep saying all he has is a shot and speed but I saw some really nice passes.

Even if he’s not producing, the top line has been looking great and producing. I don’t see the need to move him. He could easily start putting up points sooner than later.

Really?
I didn't think he was that great in either of the last two games.
I asked for him and I got him but we need to do better much better.
Our first line is at it's best when Suzuki Caufield and ----- turn pucks over in the Ozone.
Newhook isn't helping in that regard while he can skate like the wind he just isn't winning any puck battles.
Anderson playing the way he is right now would be a better option and this coming from someone who never liked Anderson on that line.

 

[teamfirst]

If only we could get a late 1s and early 2nd for him in the next draft that would be something.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Really?
I didn't think he was that great in either of the last two games.
I asked for him and I got him but we need to do better much better.
Our first line is at it's best when Suzuki Caufield and ----- turn pucks over in the Ozone.
Newhook isn't helping in that regard while he can skate like the wind he just isn't winning any puck battles.
Anderson playing the way he is right now would be a better option and this coming from someone who never liked Anderson on that line.

I saw him making quite a few really good passes while the line as a whole was getting tons of chances. He certainly wasn’t hurting it.

From what I saw I saw no reason to get him off there as it was certainly a game to build on. I don’t know if it works long term but we can certainly afford to give it a real shot at the moment.

 

[BozoTheClown]

Exactly, people like to mention Byron as a hope comparaison but man he is miles away from Byron, right now he is not the kind of guy i want in my bottom 6 that's for sure.

I think Byron had less talent than Newhook, but was making up tue difference with heart and hard work.

Byron was forechecking hard, going into the corners and in front of the net , finishing his hit and was good defensively.

Newhook seems to need players doing all this on his line and that doesn’t even mean he will be successful.

 

[teamfirst]

I think Byron had less talent than Newhook, but was making up tue difference with heart and hard work.

Byron was forechecking hard, going into the corners and in front of the net , finishing his hit and was good defensively.

Newhook seems to need players doing all this on his line and that doesn’t even mean he will be successful.

Byron had a way better vision than Newhook and better stick handling too, way way better overall

 

[Natey]

He's not very good .... ohhhh he skates fast

Dime a dozen 4th liner at best

He was great last night.

 

[Habs]

He was great last night.

lol, hey let's pick out a single game

 

[HuGort]

It's odd thing, Newhook everything pointing to him being way better than this. He was high pick in draft. Great college career, over a ppg in AHL. On pace for 25 goals and 50+ points last season. Then falls apart?

Can't win faceoffs hurting him as a center. Less puck possession and his line chasing the play. Makes him much less valuable to team. Like Dach can't win faceoffs hurting him and team. Hughes never watched that in trades. Rookie GM at time trades were made. Hopefully he learns.

 

[That Habs Fan]

This is starting to look like one of HuGo's biggest misses, IMHO.

He's basically Anderson minus the size...

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

This is starting to look like one of HuGo's biggest misses, IMHO.

He's basically Anderson minus the size...

It has foxhole written all over it..

 

[salbutera]

Once Newhook properly slots into 3C role he’ll be fine - which happens once Dvo is dealt by deadline.

 

[Tyson]

Once Newhook properly slots into 3C role he’ll be fine - which happens once Dvo is dealt by deadline.

Agreed

 

[Andrei79]

It's odd thing, Newhook everything pointing to him being way better than this. He was high pick in draft. Great college career, over a ppg in AHL. On pace for 25 goals and 50+ points last season. Then falls apart?

Can't win faceoffs hurting him as a center. Less puck possession and his line chasing the play. Makes him much less valuable to team. Like Dach can't win faceoffs hurting him and team. Hughes never watched that in trades. Rookie GM at time trades were made. Hopefully he learns.

He looked really good last year just before his injury and coming back. Don't understand what happened, but I think the team wide funk affected a lot of the young players.

 

[River Meadow]

I really liked Newhook at his draft year. I still believe that he can be a top 6 player. Likely at wing. But his speed, hands, two-way game will translate so well with the new system of Habs and under MSL.

Do we still believe this?

 

[Victoire HuGo]

For the people on his case:

Positives:
PDO is awful and so is 5 on 5 shooting % when he's on the ice.
His IPP is terrible.
His chances for % is up from last year.
Expected goals for is lower than what it should be.
Avg speed is higher than last year.
Fenwick is up from last year.
He's less sheltered for faceoffs.

Negatives:
His SOG is down vs last year. 1.3 a game is too low.
His separation speed isn't really there.
Needs to build an identity as a player.

So all signs point to Newhook being unlucky. He should probably have as many assists as goals right now.

 

[26Mats]

For the people on his case:

Positives:
PDO is awful and so is 5 on 5 shooting % when he's on the ice.
His IPP is terrible.
His chances for % is up from last year.
Expected goals for is lower than what it should be.
Avg speed is higher than last year.
Fenwick is up from last year.
He's less sheltered for faceoffs.

Negatives:
His SOG is down vs last year. 1.3 a game is too low.
His separation speed isn't really there.
Needs to build an identity as a player.

So all signs point to Newhook being unlucky. He should probably have as many assists as goals right now.

I look forward to seeing what he can do in a bottom six role, where I think he should be. But can he put up 40 points from there? Can he be good defensively? Can he bring what Paul Byron brought?

Newhook - Evan's/Beck/Kapanen- Heineman might be a good 3rd line next year. But do we need more size in our bottom 6, making Newhook not a fit on this team?

 

[Victoire HuGo]

I look forward to seeing what he can do in a bottom six role, where I think he should be. But can he put up 40 points from there? Can he be good defensively? Can he bring what Paul Byron brought?

Newhook - Evan's/Beck/Kapanen- Heineman might be a good 3rd line next year. But do we need more size in our bottom 6, making Newhook not a fit on this team?

If he can become a Chris Kelly/Dan Cleary type of depth, I'd be happy.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Is that chair up in the press box?

They can’t have 3 players in the bottom 6 who don’t kill penalties. They already have gallagher and heineman.

He’s not a banger. Not a big point producer. Doesn’t kill penalties.

He has to find his niche. Like Byron (mentioned above) did.

3rd line scorer with Beck and Roy. That’s how I see it long term.

 

[Don D]

This is starting to look like one of HuGo's biggest misses, IMHO.

He's basically Anderson minus the size...

Not sure I would call it "one of Hugo's biggest misses". Definitely not looking good now.
Colorado got Fairbrother, now playing in the ECHL, and two draft picks, who may or may not make the NHL. Still too early to tell, but it seems Habs did not give up much.

 

[Wats]

I feel like this is Hughes Shaw move. Luckily the contract isn't that bad and he is still really young but seems very redundant.

 

[therocket9]

Once Newhook properly slots into 3C role he’ll be fine - which happens once Dvo is dealt by deadline.

3rd line centers need to be Guy Carbonneau.....Newhook would be a terrible 3rd line center.

 

[Mr. Met]

Send him back to Newfoundland, I think the Growlers need a couple of players

 

[salbutera]

3rd line centers need to be Guy Carbonneau.....Newhook would be a terrible 3rd line center.

That’s old school hockey (checking 3rd line) and definitely the polar opposite of the USA Hockey concept Hughes & MSL are trying to incorporate as philosophy within Habs org

 

[1909]

That’s old school hockey (checking 3rd line) and definitely the polar opposite of the USA Hockey concept Hughes & MSL are trying to incorporate as philosophy within Habs org

Carbonneau was not a slouch. He could score 20+ goals and get 50 points every season. + winning te majority of his faceoffs.