Alex Formenton sues agent for $20 million

[SupremeTeam16]

I wouldn’t settle for one dime if I’m them. Even on their face, these claims are frivolous. I don’t need every has been and never was thinking our agency will pay out money to anyone upset they didn’t make more money in their career. And that’s before even getting into the nature of the particular plaintiff here. Like who do you think comes away with “bad press” here?

Formenton’s bad press is already cemented, he’s got nothing to lose, but if he drags them into court and gets their involvement on the public record, whether they have any sort of possible legal liability, just being attached to the whole hockey Canada situation isn’t ideal for anyone. Hard to draw any conclusions without all the details but if his lawyers are bringing a lawsuit they likely feel they have some sort of leverage to extract a settlement, Newport has plenty of money, they’d likely rather quietly settle and shut him up than get publicly dragged into this whole mess.

It’s a pretty unique situation so I doubt they’d be concerned about future similar lawsuits. More concerning for them is the likely fact that in the early stages of this whole Hockey Canada fiasco they were playing their part in trying to make it go away and protect their earner and his future earnings and they probably don’t want those details coming out.

 

[MXD]

If that is true that could be the ball game. The agent may not have known of the investigation.

... If that's true, that's legally totally on Formenton.

 

[FanCos]

I'd say the main problem here is that he's a rapist, not that his agent wronged him. Or?

Many think the worst thing about rapists is that they are hypocrites, though some disagree and say it's the raping.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Formenton’s bad press is already cemented, he’s got nothing to lose, but if he drags them into court and gets their involvement on the public record, whether they have any sort of possible legal liability, just being attached to the whole hockey Canada situation isn’t ideal for anyone. Hard to draw any conclusions without all the details but if his lawyers are bringing a lawsuit they likely feel they have some sort of leverage to extract a settlement, Newport has plenty of money, they’d likely rather quietly settle and shut him up than get publicly dragged into this whole mess.

It’s a pretty unique situation so I doubt they’d be concerned about future similar lawsuits. More concerning for them is the likely fact that in the early stages of this whole Hockey Canada fiasco they were playing their part in trying to make it go away and protect their earner and his future earnings and they probably don’t want those details coming out.

They’d only settle if it got passed summary judgment (Canadian equivalent)

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Definitely says a lot about his attitude. Is gifted a pretty lucrative hockey career..blows it. Gifted a very rich girlfriend and family with access to a lucrative construction career, and now cries about how hard it is and how he deserves millions.

He forgets he is the customer. He could've fired Newport at any time if he felt unsatisfied with them and moved to a different agency.

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

It is going to be hilarious when these guys are proven innocent.

 

[MCR74]

I hope Formenton knows that if he somehow sees any money from this suit, his lawyers will be taking their share. Seeing as cases like this are often done on contingency, he could be out a good chunk of change.

 

[Jumptheshark]

... If that's true, that's legally totally on Formenton.

Here are the questions I have IF THE NYT/Athletic article is correct

1) Did the agent know about them investigation before telling his client to turn down the Q offer?
2) Did the player at anytime inform his agent that there was an investigation? IF so when?
3) Did the agent at any time try to get an offer sheet from another team or try to arrange a trade for his client.
4) IF the agent could not get an agreement elsewhere--did he go back to the sens?

More questions than answers but with him suing for career loses that grabs my attention. If he had sign the Q sheet it would have been worth about 1.7 mill I think. A two year deal would have been in affect when the players were al; put on leave so that is the money I think he should be suing for..not the money that Carter Hart got through his career

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Article says, 2 years plus future earnings, not sure if you read article.

How many hours do you have to work earning $3.35 per hour making license plates to earn $20m?

 

[WarriorofTime]

But it quite literally doesn’t matter if he would’ve played 750 games or 200 when speaking about if he could recover something. He doesn’t have to show he would’ve been a great NHL player. If he could’ve worked in the NHL at the time, he has grounds to recover. And considering NHL teams cycle through plenty of players regularly who only get play a few hundred games, there’s pretty much no scenario he wasn’t receiving some type of one way deal if he was a UFA. He absolutely has decent grounds to claim he could’ve earned an NHL salary for at least 2 seasons past his last season.

Pavel, this isn’t how negligence works or how damages in a civil case work. Having regrets and wondering what mighta been is not sound legal ground for recovery. If you read his claim, it’s basically that they advised him not to sign qualifying offer (nobody signs their qualifying offer btw), he followed that advice and it didn’t turn out well for him.

 

[WATTAGE4451]

Innocent until proven guilty.

Innocent until proven guilty is mimed out by lots of people but any lawyer will tell you thats not a thing. You arent guilty u til proven but that doesnt mean ylu are innocent. Innocence is whether ylu a tually did it or not and thats not proven either way. Being found not guilty is not the same as being exhonerated and that hasnt even happened anyway.

The 0hrase innocent until guilty is actually nowhere listed in the legal system and its a misunderstanding of the definitions that everylne mimes.

And people cam absolutely have opions on it. No one has to assume hes innocent before the trial.

 

[WATTAGE4451]

Well since he's not a rapist and no one is even being charged with that

Yup, read through the whole thing, the defendant admitted everything was consensual, got paid out and consequently wants nothing to do with any of the proceedings, but the court of public opinion doesn't care about facts

Wow you made all that up. The defendent never admitted it was consensual, hockey Canada paud her to stay quiet but now she is cooperating with authorities not refusing to go along with proceedings which you also lied about, she accused them of rape all the way back then and never changed her story, and police found new evidence that brought them to charge the players after all this time deslite detectives dismissing the case years ago.

Apparently you are the one who doesnt care about facts.

 

[WATTAGE4451]

No, it's not like that, they paid her out for good reason. There was no non consensual contact but it's hard to parse through everything, that's partly why it took Lindon PD to take so painfully long to come through with charges. Lots of booze, some coercion, some voyeurism, all pretty sketchy, still hard to know what exactly happened and what the end result will be, but none of it is good, just not remotely the "6 person g@ngr@pe" that some make it out to be

6 people having sex with a girl who is i toxicated is gangrape legally since she cant legally consent. Sorry if you like having drunken sex with strangers but you really shouldnt ciz legally it can be rape if they only went through with it cuz they were intoxicated. Also she alleges she asked to leave the room and they said she couldnt. She said she wanted to have sex with one player- which was consensual but that he then texted his buddies who came into the room and wohldnt let her leave til she slept with all of them.

And its been reported that one player- thought to be batherson- stated he saw the encounter when he went to eat pizza there and felt u comfortable and shocked and not sure that what he was witnessing was consensual.

Yes theres a video tape of her that night saying she wanted it that she alleges they forced her to say to let her leave the room.

How often or common is it for when you have sex with someone to then pull out a camera and record them asking was our sex consensual? Why would they feel the need to get her on taoe saying that and why would she say that on tape if she planned to immediately have her family call the police on them if she wasnt forced at the time. That seriously doesnt raise any red flags to you? Why are you so determined to believe they are innocent that you are making up facts about the case.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

I'm suing him for 2.5 million. I was presented the opportunity to wager $100 that Formenton was going to hit 50 points. Alex decided to get caught for doing something egregious and I lost out on my wager in addition to the future income I would have received on future bets.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Why didn't ANY NHL team offer sheet him?

Because at that point they already knew about the rape allegations.

 

[theVladiator]

Formenton’s bad press is already cemented, he’s got nothing to lose, but if he drags them into court and gets their involvement on the public record, whether they have any sort of possible legal liability, just being attached to the whole hockey Canada situation isn’t ideal for anyone. Hard to draw any conclusions without all the details but if his lawyers are bringing a lawsuit they likely feel they have some sort of leverage to extract a settlement, Newport has plenty of money, they’d likely rather quietly settle and shut him up than get publicly dragged into this whole mess.

It’s a pretty unique situation so I doubt they’d be concerned about future similar lawsuits. More concerning for them is the likely fact that in the early stages of this whole Hockey Canada fiasco they were playing their part in trying to make it go away and protect their earner and his future earnings and they probably don’t want those details coming out.

Lots of speculation based on what? Mind reading of Newport staff? It really sounds like you want them to settle for some unfathomable reason.

Myself, I think time to settle it quietly was before the lawsuit was filed. They haven't settled then, they aren't settling now.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Because at that point they already knew about the rape allegations.

And AF is acting like the two things are not linked. The thing is "when did he tell his agent?"

 

[Chips]

I know people don't like the guy, but that shouldn't cloud whether he has a case here.

He's innocent until proven guilty with the rape case. He has every right to sue the agent because of how they handled his career after the rape allegations. They don't have the right to misrepresent him just because he might've raped someone. Bad guys are represented too, and we don't even know for sure he's a bad guy. Time will tell about that.

His claims don't sound frivolous. Doubt he gets all the money he's suing for, but depending on the details he may have a case. I doubt it goes to trial. They'll probably just settle for some small amount.

I can’t say I know of the chances, but I will say I think it’s pretty typical for lawsuits to start at a higher number than they want similar to negotiations. They might settle

Far as people scoffing at the number, I don’t want him to get it but I don’t think it’s too crazy.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

They’d only settle if it got passed summary judgment (Canadian equivalent)

Well no duh. Of course Newport and Arnott are going to try and get it squashed before a trial where potentially damaging information could be put on the record. As I mentioned earlier, in the early days Newport was trying to protect Formenton and help make this go away, at some point it became clear this wasn’t going away and he was going to be a radioactive so they would obviously want to distance themselves. It’s not a stretch that a court would rule there’s enough to warrant a trial to determine whether they breached in their duties to a client at some point. If Newport does get a summary judgement it’s early in the legal process and wouldn’t be a long and expensive legal proceeding. It’s a low risk high reward situation for him, there’s a good chance Newport could pay him something just to make it go away.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

And AF is acting like the two things are not linked. The thing is "when did he tell his agent?"

Have you ever read a lawsuit? Of course you try to minimize the weaknesses within your argument.

The point is that trying to argue he wasn't an NHL caliber player is pretty stupid. He obviously was. There are valid reasons an NHL team might not want him and I think that will mitigate his claims for 20.5M and might even lose him the case against Newport if it went all the way, but his agent is supposed to advocate on his behalf to those teams that have questions, and he's suggesting they didn't do so.

The people trying to claim "he wasn't good enough for the NHL" or "he wouldn't have earned an NHL salary" are making pretty stupid arguments that I don't even think the agent would try to claim in response.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Have you ever read a lawsuit? Of course you try to minimize the weaknesses within your argument.

The point is that trying to argue he wasn't an NHL caliber player is pretty stupid. He obviously was. There are valid reasons an NHL team might not want him and I think that will mitigate his claims for 20.5M and might even lose him the case against Newport if it went all the way, but his agent is supposed to advocate on his behalf to those teams that have questions, and he's suggesting they didn't do so.

The people trying to claim "he wasn't good enough for the NHL" or "he wouldn't have earned an NHL salary" are making pretty stupid arguments that I don't even think the agent would try to claim in response.

I have been sued and have sued people

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Headline should be: "Alex Formenton confirms yet again why he's a trash human being"

 

[12ozPapa]

I have been sued and have sued people

Odd flex lol

 

[Seras]

Most of the commenters in here would make for a very poor jury at best, need to read less reddit imo

 

[Jumptheshark]

Odd flex lol

I am 53 and I give as good as I get.

So I know who to get write a lawsuit making it looking like I am the second coming