Alex Formenton sues agent for $20 million

[Masked]

You realize that this it the comments from only Formenton's side right?

Are you illiterate? I've repeatedly stated that Formenton claimed Arnott was representing him after their official agreement expired.

 

[Ciao]

Do you think he told his agent "Hey, I'm one of the dudes involved with the Hockey Canada scandal," before that went public? Or, "I'm worried about the group sex I had with a girl and a bunch of other players after the WJC tourney. What if that gets out? Do you think I'll get a better offer?"

The agent wouldn't have known at that point if his client didn't tell him.

 

[SirKillalot]

Are you illiterate? I've repeatedly stated that Formenton claimed Arnott was representing him after their official agreement expired.

Are you? You're not getting the point.
If they didn't sign any new player-agent representation paperwork, they were not officially representing him. Do you agree on that?

He can claim whatever he wants, but if they didn't sign anything, officially they are not. He cannot just say they don't represent him, and say they do represent him, whenever he see fit.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Formenton was an AHL-level player. Top-six or bust was what I heard about him, and he wasn't nearly talented enough to be top-six.

Ya that part is BS

 

[dirtydanglez]

sounds like his hockey career is over.

 

[wonton15]

This guy is an idiot.

 

[Memento]

How can you say he was an AHL level player? At the time when the representation ended, he had just come off an 18 goal and 32 point season in 79 games. He's also not a natural pure skill guy. More of a speedy guy that can chip in some offense, but his speed is the best asset. Those totals for what he is are pretty good. This was at the age of 22, and at the age of 20 he had 27 goals and 53 total points in 61 AHL games. There's every reason to believe he had a role in the NHL. Claiming he was an AHL player is bonkers.

Maybe he doesn't reach 1000 games. I agree with your suggestion that he might've not stuck in the NHL for that many years (hard to know exactly), but whether that's true doesn't really matter towards whether he has a case (dollar amount is a different discussion, I'll get to that below). If he'd have an NHL spot on merit at the time he was advised what he was, he's an NHL player for the sake of his claim in this lawsuit.

I think the 20 million in earnings sounds spurious. I don't know that he'll get anywhere near what he asks for, but I can see him getting something out of this from Newport. And it's a common tactic anyway in a lawsuit to ask for more than you deserve. Same thing that's done with contract negotiations. You start very high, and let the price be driven down to a point both sides can meet at.

I know what the tactics are. I just think 20 million is especially frivolous, and suing his agent for his own stupid decisions is even more frivolous. There's not a chance in the nine levels of hell he would've sniffed 1,000 NHL games. No way he could've earned even half of that. Especially after being indicted.

He was a tweener at best. Speed and chipping in occasional offense doesn't mean shit without any defense or physicality for a third/fourth line player - and don't tell me Formenton could play defense well or he was physical when he wasn't either.

This is a completely ignorant take on Formenton. You should stop listening to whoever told you that.

AHL/NHL tweener at f***ing best. Especially considering that he's been charged with f***ing sexual assault. It was going to come out anyway, and it did. He should've accepted the contract he was given. He should've listened to that f***ing little bit of conscience (if he even had it) that said, "Hey, sexual assault is f***ing wrong." He should've listened to his f***ing agent that he's now suing for his own f***ing mistakes.

Forgive me for not having any sympathy or any positive feelings for him or his career - or the careers of the accused, for that matter, which is what I stated in my answer to you.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Isn't this guy an alleged (redacted)

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

It is terrible when people get taken advantage of by others and it's not their fault and they don't want it to happen, isn't it?

Thread won.

 

[Masked]

I know what the tactics are. I just think 20 million is especially frivolous, and suing his agent for his own stupid decisions is even more frivolous. There's not a chance in the nine levels of hell he would've sniffed 1,000 NHL games. No way he could've earned even half of that. Especially after being indicted.

He was a tweener at best. Speed and chipping in occasional offense doesn't mean shit without any defense or physicality for a third/fourth line player - and don't tell me Formenton could play defense well or he was physical when he wasn't either.

This might be the most idiotic evaluation of an NHL player I've ever seen. It makes me wonder not if you've ever watched him play but if you've ever watched hockey in your life.

Wouldn't have played 1000 games? Less talented players have done that. And elite skaters like he is tend to do it.

Tweener? He was an excellent third liner at worst.

No defense or physicality? He led the league in short handed goals his last season in the league. He played a chippy game. He was physical.

 

[inthewings]

This guy is such a f***ing loser

 

[NewtJorden]

Yeah, i'm not going to feel bad for him. Hope he lose the case.

 

[HolyGhost]

Think thatd be extremely hard to win...

Wouldnt wish him any luck with it either.

I don't think he will win due to the fact that his name was the first name out there when the shit hit the fan.

It sounds more and more like teams knew he was involved in something dirty long before it became public and did not want to have him in their organization when the news broke.

I think this is more about him trying to come of as a victim.

 

[theVladiator]

I think it's going to be hard for Formenton to make a case here. There isn't a well established precedent of what an NHL agent is supposed to achieve when the client is an alleged rapist. And the latter is going to be the ultimate reason for his contract negotiations and career to go in the direction it went. I think for him to succeed he would have to essentially prove otherwise, and that doesn't seem very likely.

And that's before even getting into the fact that without a valid active contract between him and the agent, there wasn't any real obligation from the agent to do anything (other than maybe relay an offer if any such offer came his way).

 

[Memento]

This might be the most idiotic evaluation of an NHL player I've ever seen. It makes me wonder not if you've ever watched him play but if you've ever watched hockey in your life.

Wouldn't have played 1000 games? Less talented players have done that. And elite skaters like he is tend to do it.

Tweener? He was an excellent third liner at worst.

No defense or physicality? He led the league in short handed goals his last season in the league. He played a chippy game. He was physical.

And yet I'm right and you're dead f***ing wrong on the bolded - because he's a rapist who will likely never sniff the NHL ever again, let alone play 1,000 games, made his own stupid decision by refusing a contract that would've paid him, made the decision to go along with the gangrape of a woman, and is now trying to paint himself as a poor innocent victim by suing his mean agent for twenty-f***ing-million dollars that he would've never sniffed in the NHL.

Again, forgive me for not giving a single f*** about a rapist's career or anything other than the life choices they made. Get the hell out of what I watch (yeah, been a Blues fan since I was four, so f*** off with the "you haven't watched hockey" shit), and I'll stay the hell out of whatever you do.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Worth a shot from his pov. Even if Arnott and Newport think they could win, given they were repping Formenton throughout the alleged incident and subsequent investigations, it’s possible some details of their advisement and involvement could become public that they’d rather not have out there, possibly even opening them up to further potential civil liability. They may just be better off quietly settling with him.

I wouldn’t settle for one dime if I’m them. Even on their face, these claims are frivolous. I don’t need every has been and never was thinking our agency will pay out money to anyone upset they didn’t make more money in their career. And that’s before even getting into the nature of the particular plaintiff here. Like who do you think comes away with “bad press” here?

 

[Masked]

And yet I'm right and you're dead f***ing wrong on the bolded - because he's a rapist who will likely never sniff the NHL ever again, let alone play 1,000 games, made his own stupid decision by refusing a contract that would've paid him, made the decision to go along with the gangrape of a woman, and is now trying to paint himself as a poor innocent victim by suing his mean agent for twenty-f***ing-million dollars that he would've never sniffed in the NHL.

Again, forgive me for not giving a single f*** about a rapist's career or anything other than the life choices they made. Get the hell out of what I watch (yeah, been a Blues fan since I was four, so f*** off with the "you haven't watched hockey" shit), and I'll stay the hell out of whatever you do.

Until the allegations have been proven, you can't claim he's a rapist. Likewise it has yet to be proven that the incident in the London hotel room was not consensual. That you'd claim otherwise is just more of your fiction. Like your scouting report on Formenton or claims of watching hockey.