Confirmed with Link: Alain Vigneault fired

[SnowblindNYR]

What part of the current administration would lead you to believe they'll go with a retread? They seem to be pretty forward thinking.

I actually worry about the opposite. Ironically after my comment of familiar vs unfamiliar I think that outside of that aspect of it the reason there are so many retreads is because so much new blood fails.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

From Brooks' latest

The Rangers were in need of a new voice and new direction set from the top. They need a coach who can relate to young players and who understands how to cultivate them. That’s requirement one. This coach should embrace the use of analytics. This coach must set a tone and be more proactive in communicating the message.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/08/range...medium=site buttons&utm_campaign=site buttons

That screams Keefe to me.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Larry's article is spot on IMO

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Different league I know but can Gorton talk to Keefe before the AHL season is over?

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

“This coach should embrace the use of analytics”

Larry coming to the dark side boys

 

[Gresch04]

Would I be correct in saying coaches and leaders of every kind prefer a 50% chance of failure with the familiar than a 25% chance of failure with the unfamiliar?

Absolutely, sometimes even shockingly worse. Some people unconsciously choose a minimal chance of success (<10%) sticking with what they know vs. a huge opportunity for success (>50%) with the unfamiliar. Beyond the SCARF model, there are a number of cognitive biases that mess with our perception of risk, probability, and cause of outcomes (confirmation bias, choice-supportive bias, appeal to probability fallacy, and more).

 

[effen]

I actually worry about the opposite. Ironically after my comment of familiar vs unfamiliar I think that outside of that aspect of it the reason there are so many retreads is because so much new blood fails.

I mean the simpler answer is coaching hockey is 1) hard and 2) has a high degree of randomness in outcomes.

In a given year only 5-6 teams are 'happy' with what they did or achieved. That's a lot of disappointment.

 

[NYR Lurker]

The firing of AV is the second best news I’ve heard all weekend. The first being the birth of my first child. It’s a close second though.

 

[effen]

“This coach should embrace the use of analytics”

Larry coming to the dark side boys

Larry's been really good for a very long time now. He's also very clearly a mouthpiece for the org so I'd take what he writes along those lines very seriously.

 

[Pizza]

Any guesses as to who?

Not a one.

But I'd like to see a new face and vision to complement a much younger team.

 

[Gresch04]

I actually worry about the opposite. Ironically after my comment of familiar vs unfamiliar I think that outside of that aspect of it the reason there are so many retreads is because so much new blood fails.

Same reason why new TV shows fail yet mediocre shows get renewed. Flawed belief that it's easier to take mediocre to great than it is to take a struggling new show to great. A show that is consistently mediocre rarely explodes but a new show with a strong premise, but needing some tweaks, can become great. Gets back to risk and fear - TV execs don't get fired for a lot of mediocrity but they do get fired for a few big best that fail.

 

[Pizza]

Or maybe they said, "This guy has been a good coach for us. Won a lot of games. Won a lot of playoff series in his tenure. He's no longer right for us. We need to move in a new direction. There's no reason to keep him twisting in the wind, so let's let him go. We'll move on. He can get a jump on finding his next job. Its the right thing to do."

Absolutely.

Your speculation is as good as mine.

The right thing to do in any case. It's time to begin a new era and this just felt like an exclamation point to me. Can't wait to see what comes next.

 

[Pizza]

He knew he was getting fired. Makes you think and say crazy things trying to rationalize yourself and your decisions. Speaking from experience.

You and me both. So true.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Will never forgive him for his undying love affair for Glass, and ultimately running Stempniak out of town. We desperately could have used Stempniak's depth scoring in the playoffs that season.

13-14 was the most fun I have ever had watching the Rangers, so thanks for that AV, but other than that it's been underwhelming to say the least.

 

[haveandare]

Larry's article is spot on IMO

Until he says Tippet, Bylsma, Roy are options. They’re all bad, 2 of them probabaly worse than AV pretty safely.

 

[Pizza]

Would I be correct in saying coaches and leaders of every kind prefer a 50% chance of failure with the familiar than a 25% chance of failure with the unfamiliar?

Sounds about right to me.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Or maybe they said, "This guy has been a good coach for us. Won a lot of games. Won a lot of playoff series in his tenure. He's no longer right for us. We need to move in a new direction. There's no reason to keep him twisting in the wind, so let's let him go. We'll move on. He can get a jump on finding his next job. Its the right thing to do."

I hardly think waiting until the Monday presser, or even after all the exit interviews are done later this week, would qualify as "twisting in the wind". He'd still be out early enough for every potential suitor to be aware he was available. There was definitely something (less than positive) to the timing, IMO.

 

[I Eat Crow]

The firing of AV is the second best news I’ve heard all weekend. The first being the birth of my first child. It’s a close second though.

I will know how you feel. I'll likely be watching this year's draft with a 1-2 week old sitting next to me. My first too. Congrats!

 

[Siddi]

I wouldn't mind Bill Peters system in front of Hank.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Same reason why new TV shows fail yet mediocre shows get renewed. Flawed belief that it's easier to take mediocre to great than it is to take a struggling new show to great. A show that is consistently mediocre rarely explodes but a new show with a strong premise, but needing some tweaks, can become great. Gets back to risk and fear - TV execs don't get fired for a lot of mediocrity but they do get fired for a few big best that fail.

Same reason companies are so loath to hire new blood as CEOs/the "old boy" network is so strong in so many industries. The BoD can point to the resume and say "hey, can't blame us for the company's performance, we picked a guy with experience." There's a good deal of CYA in there (along with the well-documented discrimination).

 

[GordonGecko]

O Keefe seems to be the sexy choice but so was Dallas Eakins at a time. This is a tough decision.

O Keefe is an old school Canadian beer

Sheldon Keefe is a hockey coach

 

[Pizza]

I hardly think waiting until the Monday presser, or even after all the exit interviews are done later this week, would qualify as "twisting in the wind". He'd still be out early enough for every potential suitor to be aware he was available. There was definitely something (less than positive) to the timing, IMO.

Yep. Felt like a bit of a dropkick to me as well. Though I'm certain they will claim nothing was amiss.

Nothing like a little Palace Intrigue to kick this rebuild into high gear.

 

[Bob Richards]

From Brooks' latest



https://nypost.com/2018/04/08/rangers-made-best-choice-by-changing-coach/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site buttons&utm_campaign=site buttons

That screams Keefe to me.

Larry has become #WOKE

We truly are dashing through the post-AV era.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I love that “insiders” are saying they need a coach that will grow with the team

Sounds like Gorton is going to get his guy, which is the ideal scenario

“This coach should embrace the use of analytics”

Larry coming to the dark side boys

His turn from NYR beat villain to hero this year has been an interesting one

 

[Irishguy42]

Why? Don’t tell me College rivalry reasons....

You damn well bet it is and I am totally willing to admit it's 100% irrational.

I don't think he'd make my Top 10 list even if I wasn't an RPI alum.