Aho or Matthews (including contracts)

[DRW204]

now that both young 1Cs have had their deals signed, sealed and delivered. who do you take going forward, including contracts.

imo Matthews>Aho, however, not sure if he is ~3.2M ahead. With cap-space being ever valuable is Aho the better value given the quality of player+contract?

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[Filthy Dangles]

Matthews. You pay 3M more for the better player. If Aho got 7 or 8 years it might be a different story.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

even with contracts you can't spin this to Aho's favor. Matthews is the better player, he just needs to stay healthy for a whole season to get the h8ers off his back.

 

[stonec]

Matthews' point production per game was in the same ballpark as Aho's last year. I think in terms of player value he is not worth 35% more than Aho in salary. With adjusting for contract length maybe.

 

[bobholly39]

Definitely Matthews for me

You can maybe argue about Aho being the better value but i dont care about value id rather go for best player

Aho is pretty great - but Matthews comfortably ahead for me.

 

[DRW204]

Matthews' point production per game was in the same ballpark as Aho's last year. I think in terms of player value he is not worth 35% more than Aho in salary. With adjusting for contract length maybe.

they're both the same length at 5 years. both start next season

 

[stonec]

they're both the same length at 5 years. both start next season

Right, indeed. Then it's Aho for me in terms of pure value of contract.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Matthews' point production per game was in the same ballpark as Aho's last year. I think in terms of player value he is not worth 35% more than Aho in salary. With adjusting for contract length maybe.

Aho had 400 more minutes of ice time including a minute and a half more per game. That's a significant difference.

Matthews is gonna explode in produciton if he can just stay healthy for 82 games.

 

[LuckyBoeser]

Auston Matthews.

I don't care about contracts. I'm taking one of the best even strength producer since 2016-17.

 

[ricky0034]

i'll take the guy that has the 10 point higher career high on a worse team,is better defensively,and makes 3.2 million a year less

Aho had 400 more minutes of ice time including a minute and a half more per game. That's a significant difference.

Matthews is gonna explode in produciton if he can just stay healthy for 82 games.

yeah lets just ignore the fact that more than a minute a game of that minute and a half is PK time and punish Aho for actually killing penalties

 

[Filthy Dangles]

i'll take the guy that has the 10 point higher career high on a worse team,is better defensively,and makes 3.2 million a year less

yeah lets just ignore the fact that more than a minute a game of that minute and a half is PK time and punish Aho for actually killing penalties

Matthews has more ESP in 200 less minutes. the difference in points is their ice time.

 

[Kamiccolo]

I see a lot of both. Aho is damn good, I don't want this thread to become one is good or the other sucks. With that said, Canes would trade Aho for Matthews 1 for 1 if they didn't care about the actual cash. Matthews is bigger, stronger on the puck, better goal scorer.

Mattews got a little overrated when he was called better than McDavid a few years ago but since then has been very under rated on HFboards, with the fault of a few injuries.

It took until MacKinnon hit 23 to match Matthews season high goal total (and wasn't even close when pacing goals / gp) and until he was 22 to pass his point totals as a center (compared to his rookie year).

Matthews turns 22 next season.

 

[Killer Orcas]

Contracts aside they are close but Aho has less offensive support upfront. However taking contract into this how anybody takes Mathews is just being a homer. Aho is healthy to let's see moving forward what happens but I'm taking Aho.

 

[ManWithNoName]

I see a lot of both. Aho is damn good, I don't want this thread to become one is good or the other sucks. With that said, Canes would trade Aho for Matthews 1 for 1 if they didn't care about the actual cash. Matthews is bigger, stronger on the puck, better goal scorer.

Mattews got a little overrated when he was called better than McDavid a few years ago but since then has been very under rated on HFboards, with the fault of a few injuries.

It took until MacKinnon hit 23 to match Matthews season high goal total (and wasn't even close when pacing goals / gp) and until he was 22 to pass his point totals as a center (compared to his rookie year).

Matthews turns 22 next season.

Matthews has never been underrated here. He hasn't hit 100 points yet, but he is still a top 3 player in the league according to "some"...

I've already heard all the excuses so don't bother.

He is a phenomenal player, no doubt, but right now I can't think of any athlete in the history of sports that has been more overrated.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Matthews has never been underrated here. He hasn't hit 100 points yet, but he is still a top 3 player in the league according to "some"...

I've already heard all the excuses so don't bother.

He is a phenomenal player, no doubt, but right now I can't think of any athlete in the history of sports that has been more overrated.

That's because there is more to hockey than what is on hockeydb

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Matthews underrated. Lol.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Auston Matthews

 

[Psych0dad]

I'd go with Aho. A lot cheaper and on the same level.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

$3.2 million cheaper Aho who plays more games.

 

[elmaco]

Give me Aho. Their difference isnt worth 3mil.

 

[Killer Orcas]

Matthews has never been underrated here. He hasn't hit 100 points yet, but he is still a top 3 player in the league according to "some"...

I've already heard all the excuses so don't bother.

He is a phenomenal player, no doubt, but right now I can't think of any athlete in the history of sports that has been more overrated.

Just to be clear as I agree with you fully Mathews hasn't even hit 74 points in a season yet. He was the 42 nd in league scoring this year. Yes that same Mathews who some believe to be a top 5 player. Under rated Aho mind you was 21 in league scoring.

 

[Killer Orcas]

Give me Aho. Their difference isnt worth 3mil.

Funny part is it's arguable to take Aho if contract was same it's crazy to take Mathews with contract included though.

 

[X66]

Matthews just slaps up Finnish players, look what he did to Laine.

This isn't close at all lol.

Matthews.

 

[Barkkonen]

its aho+ top6 player vs matthews + bottom 6 player. Don't think matthews is that much better.

 

[Plural]

Matthews for me. Aho is awesome and he has better contract. But Matthews simply is the better player. I do worry about his injuries a bit, but Barkov seemed to be able to put them behind so I think Matthews can too.