Player Discussion Adam Fox

[The Crypto Guy]

so odd how some fans on this board don't love Fox.

It’s the same with Igor who want to trade him so we can get another 2nd line player with cap room. Very strange.

 

[UnSandvich]

It’s the same with Igor who want to trade him so we can get another 2nd line player with cap room. Very strange.

In fairness, some of them are the "Trouba is actually good" crowd, so their opinions don't matter

 

[Peltz]

The interesting thing isn't that it's if he plays at this level deep into his career then he becomes a Hall of Famer. It's that he already basically has a Hall of Fame prime locked up and another decade of being a good NHLer is probably enough to get him a plaque.

You are likely right.

Fox is probably the player I enjoy watching most on the team. The small deceptive plays all over the ice and smooth blind passes to open wingers in the offensive zone are what makes him stand apart from his peers.

But I think if I didn't watch him every game, I would fail to see what makes him a great player. It's not as flashy as other elite guys in the league.

It's more his consistency of great plays throughout a game that other NHL players could also make, but way way less often than Fox.

If he somehow drops off in performance, I could his critics running away with a "he was overrated" or a "power play merchant" type narrative just because he isn't a pure highlight machine like Makar is.

 

[Levitate]

I mean it should be inarguable that he's a top 5 D in the league and probably top 3 at any given time and a good shot to win the Norris any given season. If he wasn't injured last year who knows where he'd have ended up. Players like that don't come along often, I thought it'd be years and years before the Rangers had someone even as good as McDonagh on their blueline after they traded him.

But yeah he's not physically imposing or super fast or have a huge slapshot,, he's just one of the best players in the NHL.

It also often shows me that some people who yell about wanting a physical D have no idea how a player needs to use their size effectively for positioning and separating players from the puck, they just want to see someone throw hits and bounce off the boards.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

My second hockey jersey ever and and my first since 2000 or 2001 and first one that actually has a name on the back. I think if you get one jersey his is the best to get. His future is much more solid with the team. No idea what will happen to Panarin and Shesterkin.

 

[Levitate]

He's obviously the best D the Rangers have had since Leetch and again who knows how long it'll be before they have someone as good let alone better. He could easily have a hall of fame career.

That's all to say, stop tying a boat anchor around his neck (Lindgren) and asking him to tow the team ashore

 

[RempireStateBuilding]

My second hockey jersey ever and and my first since 2000 or 2001 and first one that actually has a name on the back. I think if you get one jersey his is the best to get. His future is much more solid with the team. No idea what will happen to Panarin and Shesterkin.

Fox was the second named jersey I got since a Lundqvist Winter Classic one, and I still get a little kick out of how I got it. Went to a game in 2019 right after they drafted Kakko and signed Fox and was excited to grab Kakko's jersey ("He's the highest draft pick I've ever been alive to see, 2OA always turn into superstars!" I told myself). The concession stand I went to at the front was out of Kakko jerseys so I "settled" for a Fox jersey instead.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Fox was the second named jersey I got since a Lundqvist Winter Classic one, and I still get a little kick out of how I got it. Went to a game in 2019 right after they drafted Kakko and signed Fox and was excited to grab Kakko's jersey ("He's the highest draft pick I've ever been alive to see, 2OA always turn into superstars!" I told myself). The concession stand I went to at the front was out of Kakko jerseys so I "settled" for a Fox jersey instead.

I had the opposite happen with my t-shirt. Wanted a Fox t-shirt at the garden but they didn't have them and I got a Kakko.

 

[Raspewtin]

it's so nice to see him without a rotting corpse of a partner

hope this pair is split forever

 

[RangersFan]

This nerd needs to play better. He's supposed to be Elite. He does things so slow. His poise and patience was a sight to behold. Lately it's annoying. Slows the play down too much at times and can't get a shot through to the net if his life depended on it. I'm being hard on him but we've seen him play so much better.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

Fox will play in 4 Nations and the Olympics and look like a Norris dman again playing with a competent partner.

Not saying he's not responsible for his performance lately. It looks like he's doing too much out there. Our entire team goes out of sync when they try to take on the entire team individually instead of working 5v5. Just look at all the forwards cheating out of the zone.

Also, did this guy fully recover from repeated knee injuries? He just doesn't have the same agility which was his only skating strength.

 

[Atax]

I know Fox has never been a burner, but he looks slower out there. I havent delved too much into these stats and I know its early. (From NHL EDGE)
Last season Top Skating Speed (mph) 21.25
This season: 19.88

Maybe its recovering from the knee, maybe its too early, or maybe hes out of shape. Just an observation.

 

[Do you want ants]

Fox will play in 4 Nations and the Olympics and look like a Norris dman again playing with a competent partner.

Not saying he's not responsible for his performance lately. It looks like he's doing too much out there. Our entire team goes out of sync when they try to take on the entire team individually instead of working 5v5. Just look at all the forwards cheating out of the zone.

Also, did this guy fully recover from repeated knee injuries? He just doesn't have the same agility which was his only skating strength.

I’m with you. It’s comical to me that he’s catching so much heat while being compared to Makar and Hughes who both play with legitimate top 4 partners, while he’s forced to drag around Lindgren who sucks and he looked fine with Miller who most people want to trade.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I know Fox has never been a burner, but he looks slower out there. I havent delved too much into these stats and I know its early. (From NHL EDGE)
Last season Top Skating Speed (mph) 21.25
This season: 19.88

Maybe its recovering from the knee, maybe its too early, or maybe hes out of shape. Just an observation.

He’s recovering from pigging out and not exercising over the summer. NYR players contracts should have clauses prohibiting players from getting married or having kids i swear

 

[TGWL]

I’m with you. It’s comical to me that he’s catching so much heat while being compared to Makar and Hughes who both play with legitimate top 4 partners, while he’s forced to drag around Lindgren who sucks and he looked fine with Miller who most people want to trade.

It' not really that comical. We can talk about how those players are dragging him down, especially in the D-zone where you scramble and can't get the puck out. But when it comes to Hughes and Makar, they're still making individual plays that end up successful for their teams. It's been a while since Fox has made an individual play leading to success. Lindgren obviously has to go. Miller looks lost. Fox can definitely step his game up when it comes to creating plays. His body language is absolutely awful.

 

[ElLeetch]

He’s recovering from pigging out and not exercising over the summer. NYR players contracts should have clauses prohibiting players from getting married or having kids i swear

yep, children always ruin everything.