Player Discussion Adam Fox

[SnowblindNYR]

Offensive dman who is praised so highly for his offense hasn't scored a goal in 2 consecutive post seasons. Uhm it says something about the player no?

He's not a goal scorer, he's always been much more of playmaker. He has 39 points in 46 career playoff games and that includes this season where he was clearly hobbled. Before this year it was 31 points in 30 games. Plus it's a complete misunderstanding of the player to just call him an "offensive defenseman". He always grades out as elite defensively. He's just good offensively and isn't big so people think he's bad defensively. He's easily our best defensive defenseman. He just doesn't look like Trouba. And even if you want to knock him for it, it doesn't need to be stated every game on every Powerplay. At some point it was a broken record.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

He's not a goal scorer, he's always been much more of playmaker. He has 39 points in 46 career playoff games and that includes this season where he was clearly hobbled. Before this year it was 31 points in 30 games. Plus it's a complete misunderstanding of the player to just call him an "offensive defenseman". He always grades out as elite defensively. He's just good offensively and isn't big so people think he's bad defensively. He's easily our best defensive defenseman. He just doesn't look like Trouba. And even if you want to knock him for it, it doesn't need to be stated every game on every Powerplay. At some point it was a broken record.

Doesn't matter, with how gifted offensively he his and how much PP time he plays, he needs to score some goals. He knows it

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Offensive dman who is praised so highly for his offense hasn't scored a goal in 2 consecutive post seasons. Uhm it says something about the player no?

Yeah it tells me that they played 7 games last year and he played on 1 leg this year.

 

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800226438408524117

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Adam Fox finished 4th in the Norris voting.

Shame if he didnt get injured he likely would have been nominated again.

 

[mike14]

Adam Fox finished 4th in the Norris voting.

Shame if he didnt get injured he likely would have been nominated again.

He was nominated, he finished 4th...
(sorry, it's just that 'nominated' and 'finalist' are such dumb terms with regard to these awards. Pretty sure the Masterton is the only one a player can be nominated for...)

Top 5 Norris finish in every year except his rookie one is a hell of a career so far. Really need him to be healthy at the pointy end of next season

 

[Machinehead]

Another top 5 Norris finish. He has done so every year in which he's played top pair minutes.

 

[UnSandvich]

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Another top 5 Norris finish. He has done so every year in which he's played top pair minutes.

I'm surprised Josi was so high and Bouchard so low this year.

EDIT: Also Forsling is WAY too low

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I'm surprised Josi was so high and Bouchard so low this year.

EDIT: Also Forsling is WAY too low

Forsling didn’t have the point totals

Also Douchetard is way too high, shouldn’t even be top 20

 

[noncents]

that's a ridiculous nickname for Bouchard

 

[Phrasing]

that's a ridiculous nickname for Bouchard

Gave me a chuckle though.

 

[ecemleafs]

Fox is one of the first 6 Americans selected for Team USA at the 4 Nations Cup. Fox, McAvoy, Quinn Hughes, Auston Matthews, Matt Tkachuk, Jack Eichel. Mika was also selected for Sweden.

 

[will1066]

I'm surprised Josi was so high and Bouchard so low this year.

EDIT: Also Forsling is WAY too low

Reputation award. Bouchard and Forsling will get bigger awareness moving forward after the Cup final.

 

[Levitate]

Reputation award. Bouchard and Forsling will get bigger awareness moving forward after the Cup final.

I mean it's a regular season award as well, so whatever they did in the playoffs doesn't matter

 

[will1066]

I mean it's a regular season award as well, so whatever they did in the playoffs doesn't matter

It shouldn't, but it will. It's just human nature.

 

[tlk]

 

[Zats Muccarello]

thx for sharing

 

[Greg02]

There's a main board thread asking if Roman Josi is a Hall of Famer. Someone on that thread made the argument that all defensemen with five top five Norris finishes are either in the hall or a lock.

Guess who is one top five finish away from hitting that in their sixth season in the league?

 

[Peltz]

There's a main board thread asking if Roman Josi is a Hall of Famer. Someone on that thread made the argument that all defensemen with five top five Norris finishes are either in the hall or a lock.

Guess who is one top five finish away from hitting that in their sixth season in the league?

I don't think it's controversial that Fox would be a HoF candidate if he continues to play at the same level he has in the last few seasons deep into his career.

That's a big IF though. He wasn't quite as dynamic last year (due to an injury, but still). He has HoF level talent when healthy thus far.

 

[Greg02]

I don't think it's controversial that Fox would be a HoF candidate if he continues to play at the same level he has in the last few seasons deep into his career.

That's a big IF though. He wasn't quite as dynamic last year (due to an injury, but still). He has HoF level talent when healthy thus far.

The interesting thing isn't that it's if he plays at this level deep into his career then he becomes a Hall of Famer. It's that he already basically has a Hall of Fame prime locked up and another decade of being a good NHLer is probably enough to get him a plaque.

 

[UnSandvich]

There’s exactly one eligible Norris winner not in the HHOF. Fox already has 2 more All Stars than him.

 

[Levitate]

personally I think the Rangers should trade him for depth

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I don't think it's controversial that Fox would be a HoF candidate if he continues to play at the same level he has in the last few seasons deep into his career.

That's a big IF though. He wasn't quite as dynamic last year (due to an injury, but still). He has HoF level talent when healthy thus far.

He was still fantastic. Especially the second half of the season.

personally I think the Rangers should trade him for depth

That will never happen.

 

[noncents]

so odd how some fans on this board don't love Fox.

 

[JCProdigy]

personally I think the Rangers should trade him for depth

Agreed. I mean Fox is elite defensively but doesn't compare to others like Makar offensively.