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Machinehead
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I don't know. I think Fox is certainly capable of that but the guys with seniority would have to be epically bad to be moved that quickly.
yep just like Kakko should be on first pp unit but won't be given that opportunity to start season.
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will1066
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Quinn has a pecking order, contrary to him saying that RRAs (roles, responsibilities, accountability) are based on play. Fox ain't moving up for a while. He has his hands full anyway. He and Hajek will be put to the test at NHL pace against NHL rosters. Regular season ain't preseason.
They'll also get real soft minutes though. Skilled rookies should be able to out perform those minutes (not saying they HAVE to or they're butsts but it's certianly no unusual at all for a sheltered rookie to do very well with those minutes).
Quinn looks to be running this kind of stuff on an "earn it" kind of system. Like no Kakko on the the first PP, no Fox, etc. They'll have to perform well with the minutes they're given and be ready to take the opportunity when it comes.
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If only that were true, Staal would be selling used cars.
aufheben
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I mean if the top-4 is Skjei-Trouba/Hajek-Fox...
Preseason top-6 D:
Staal 5th TOI/GP
Staal 6th 5v5 TOI/GP
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TheTakedown
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That's nice to see. Staal is the least deserving of any time. In the 2 preseason games I saw he was absolutely nothing on the ice... not even in a bad way, he just literally did... nothing. He deferred to his partner way too often, he couldn't make good plays, his skating is the same as last year (crap)
offdacrossbar
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the top 4 will be :
brady and jake
marc and tony
jake PP1 gunner up top.
tony PP2 up top.
jake and brady the PK1 pair. anyones guess on the PK2 dmen.
that's the way it will play out and probably makes the most sense given experience.
those 4 will do the heavy lifting as they should.
fox and hajek will get protection and thats also smart. foxy will get some pp2 time.
injuries, poor play and other factors may create changes but for now, i see those 4 as the top 4
if it changes i see staal dropping down and hajek jumping up as the most likely.
brady and jake
marc and tony
jake PP1 gunner up top.
tony PP2 up top.
jake and brady the PK1 pair. anyones guess on the PK2 dmen.
that's the way it will play out and probably makes the most sense given experience.
those 4 will do the heavy lifting as they should.
fox and hajek will get protection and thats also smart. foxy will get some pp2 time.
injuries, poor play and other factors may create changes but for now, i see those 4 as the top 4
if it changes i see staal dropping down and hajek jumping up as the most likely.
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Is it that terrible to force a RD to play lefty? A lot of players seem to have no issue with it. Have to be nifty on the back-hand and transition quickly. I see ADA and Fox being such smooth skaters, I don't think it'll be an issue. Just play the top 4 best D-men you have. Less ice time for Staal is a win and Hajek gets a veteran to learn from.
Skjei-Trouba
ADA-Fox
Staal-Hajek
Smith
Skjei-Trouba
ADA-Fox
Staal-Hajek
Smith
offdacrossbar
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playing your off side as a D man is tough.
guys do it but its tougher. taking every pass on your backhand isnt easy and fumbling a puck off a poor pass to your backhand on the blue line can lead to a damaging turnover.
on the rush you are making and receiving passes on the backhand. again, tougher.
what it does is effectively makes an already tough job tougher.
forwards are a little different. many shooters/scorers prefer the off side so they can cut off the wall and fire it, especially euro snipers.
guys do it but its tougher. taking every pass on your backhand isnt easy and fumbling a puck off a poor pass to your backhand on the blue line can lead to a damaging turnover.
on the rush you are making and receiving passes on the backhand. again, tougher.
what it does is effectively makes an already tough job tougher.
forwards are a little different. many shooters/scorers prefer the off side so they can cut off the wall and fire it, especially euro snipers.
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True, but he's currently penciled in with DeAngelo who was 2nd and 1st in those categories. I think Staal-DeAngelo will be the second pairing to start the season over Hajek-Fox who likely will see similar deployment as Shatty's pairing last season.
Machinehead
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Staal played last year because there was no one better than him. You think the coaches sent him out there even though they had better players available?
C’mon man!
The hate here for Staal is unbelievable. Of course, it mostly comes from the same 3-4 posters.
Once they have a better option, Stall hits the press box. Depending on how things go with Hajak and Lindgren (in Hartford) that could be sooner rather than later. Two rookies on defense is a crap shoot, three, Is real risky until they have some time to settle in.
It’s obvious to me that a lot of posters here have never spent any time in a big league locker room. And as Carp pointed out last year, if it wasn’t for the term left on the contract, they could have moved Staal at the deadline.
C’mon man!
The hate here for Staal is unbelievable. Of course, it mostly comes from the same 3-4 posters.
Once they have a better option, Stall hits the press box. Depending on how things go with Hajak and Lindgren (in Hartford) that could be sooner rather than later. Two rookies on defense is a crap shoot, three, Is real risky until they have some time to settle in.
It’s obvious to me that a lot of posters here have never spent any time in a big league locker room. And as Carp pointed out last year, if it wasn’t for the term left on the contract, they could have moved Staal at the deadline.
Machinehead
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There's about 160 defensemen in the NHL better than Marc Staal.
Bullshit, we're down to like 3-4 posters who still defend him.
He played the second most minutes on the entire team last year. It has nothing to do with options.
This directly contradicts the idea that it's based on results. You're immediately falling back on the same old locker room narratives.
aufheben
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I don't think slipping DeAngelo in for extra shifts will be difficult for an NHL coach, say if Trouba was just out on a PP, or Staal was just out on a PK.
NYR94
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I'd like to see both Fox and DeAngelo get chances with the first PP unit. We'll have to see how things shake out as the season progresses and Quinn finds the best 5-man combo.
Id wager that NONE of us have been in a big league locker room aside from visiting on a tour or some shit.
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