wunderpanda
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The DOPS decision baffles me. Dillon got to the spot of the collision first, braced for impact (with elbow tucked), but was basically stationary. Aciari was speeding up the ice and yes, basically skated into his shoulder. I don't know what anyone could have reasonably expected Dillon to do differently.
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edit: for the record, in general I think the DOPS is way to lax when it comes to discipline, but they swung and missed on this one.
A) How do you prove intent?
I don't see much intent in terms of shoulder (meaning he doesn't lean in or push it out). The only thing I could see as "intentional" in that is that he didn't avoid the hit, he continued to close the path. If I was coaching him I would expect him to do so and hold him accountable to do so.It’s really hard but in this one you can see where he’s looking before he gets to acciari. You can also see he has plenty of time to adjust his path. He could have levelled acciari, hitting his whole body. Instead he put his shoulder to Acciaris head. A head that was there the whole time. Acciari didn’t lean forward at the last second.
And then you can look at how he’s hit in the past. Nobody has said a word about the vid I posted when he hit a guy and broke his jaw. Again…he had plenty of time to choose how to hit him and he chose to jump and catch his head first.
I guess sometimes he intends to hit guys heads
The Teddy Blueger hit was the very first thing I thought of when the Acciari play happened. Seems like it's something that he enjoys doing.It’s really hard but in this one you can see where he’s looking before he gets to acciari. You can also see he has plenty of time to adjust his path. He could have levelled acciari, hitting his whole body. Instead he put his shoulder to Acciaris head. A head that was there the whole time. Acciari didn’t lean forward at the last second.
And then you can look at how he’s hit in the past. Nobody has said a word about the vid I posted when he hit a guy and broke his jaw. Again…he had plenty of time to choose how to hit him and he chose to jump and catch his head first.
I guess sometimes he intends to hit guys heads
Super cringeDillon just couldn’t help himself! Acciari was asking for it, skating around like that.
He didn’t need to lean in or push it out. Acciaris head was there for a while. Dillon chose a path that he knew was gonna connect his shoulder with acciaris head and not his body.I don't see much intent in terms of shoulder (meaning he doesn't lean in or push it out). The only thing I could see as "intentional" in that is that he didn't avoid the hit, he continued to close the path. If I was coaching him I would expect him to do so and hold him accountable to do so.
What constitutes "a while"? Tenths of a second?He didn’t need to lean in or push it out. Acciaris head was there for a while. Dillon chose a path that he knew was gonna connect his shoulder with acciaris head and not his body.
Just like he did in the vid where he broke a guys jaw with his shoulder.
He held his ground by skating towards Acciari and making direct contact with his head? Dillon has a history of doing dirty hits vs the Pens.Eh, seems pretty iffy to me. He just held his ground and the guy skated into him. Just an unfortunate result really.
Acciari starts leaning forward when he crosses center and then never moves his head again.What constitutes "a while"? Tenths of a second?
If it is reckless then he should not have made the hit. He owns the result.Man, I don't know. Reckless hit, but the game happens so fast. Acciari kind of charged forward and Dillion just followed through. I don't know about 3 games. Maybe 1 for being reckless, but like I said, the game happens so fast, it's not fair to make a split second decision into a slow motion replay.
So the question is, what is league response to Marchand's play yesterday? Unlike Dillon, Marchand has a lengthy list if disciplnary action. He also has a history of hitting people in the head. Unlike Dillon, he 100% lead with elbow direct to the head.Acciari starts leaning forward when he crosses center and then never moves his head again.
I guess we disagree on whether Dillon had time to adjust his path or if he even had to.
I think he plays a certain way and justifies his hit by telling himself “my shoulder was there, acciari put his head there”
I just won’t give Dillon the benefit of the doubt that he didn’t know he was gonna hit acciaris head first, and more than anything else. The way he plays is my reason.
So the question is, what is league response to Marchand's play yesterday? Unlike Dillon, Marchand has a lengthy list if disciplnary action. He also has a history of hitting people in the head. Unlike Dillon, he 100% lead with elbow direct to the head.
You're up George Parros.
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Too many variables to use precedent imo.
During play? Yes
Elbownot shoulder.. Directly to head.
Dillon also hit way harderAlmostonly head
Marchand has a rep
But so does Arvidson. He’s a shit disturber lol
Definitely should be looked at by the DoPS
Sad but true.All that matters is what isn't crossed out. If the league is actually serious about player safety. We already know their concern leans heavier to optics than actual safety.
So the question is, what is league response to Marchand's play yesterday? Unlike Dillon, Marchand has a lengthy list if disciplnary action. He also has a history of hitting people in the head. Unlike Dillon, he 100% lead with elbow direct to the head.
You're up George Parros.
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I disagree. The hitter is responsible for the hit.Onus should be on the puck carrier. Keep your head up, protect yourself, etc.
Suspensions on plays like this truly are bad for the game.