Billy Kvcmu
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I don’t see how he can carve out a bottom 6 role and he’s not good enough to play in the top 6. He doesn’t think the game fast enough
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Even if that's true, every organization needs depth. He is already a legitimate AHL first-line winger who can be called up, he's a local guy, he gets a lot of respect from his teammates and coaches, and the Canucks have full control over his rights until at least summer 2026. Unless he gets claimed off of waivers next season, he figures to remain in the organization for awhile.
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5th overall.
I think he'll be one of the first call ups this season alongside PDG, and will be on the 4th line next season when the team is dealing with the worst of the OEL buyout since he'll be a cheap budget option to slot into the lineup who can can provide energy and some skill for the bottom six.
I think he's perfectly suited to filling the role of a bottom six utility forward who can be slotted up and down a lineup depending on injuries. His play off the puck has improved from last year and he's already shown an ability to PK quite well at the AHL level.
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Additionally, he's shown significant improvement every season since his breakout Jr. season. If he continues to progress he could conceivably take that next step and be a useful bottom 6 player.
Wow! With Patera, Brannstrom and now Bains enroute to Abbotsford, this team is stacked from top to bottom.
The only question-marks heading into the season were in goal and on the blueline, where there was a bit of inexperience. But no more. They've not got AHL veteran depth at every position.
It would be a surprise if this team doesn't finish the year near or at the top of the Pacific Division.
The only question-marks heading into the season were in goal and on the blueline, where there was a bit of inexperience. But no more. They've not got AHL veteran depth at every position.
It would be a surprise if this team doesn't finish the year near or at the top of the Pacific Division.
Mr. Canucklehead
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Taking a stab at Abbotsford’s roster -
Bains - Sasson - Lekkerimaki
Di Giuseppe - Nielsen - Karlsson
Twarynski - Smith - Blais
Wouters - Stevens - Klimovich
Mueller, Glover, Kambeitz
Brannstrom - Woo
Wolanin - McWard
Brisebois - Pettersson
Felton, Hirose
Patera
Tolopilo
The defense suddenly looks powerful, but overcrowded. And I honestly have doubts Danila Klimovich holds down a roster spot. Could easily see him coming out of the lineup - Ty Glover seemed popular in Abby, and Dino Kambeitz is an experienced player.
Bains - Sasson - Lekkerimaki
Di Giuseppe - Nielsen - Karlsson
Twarynski - Smith - Blais
Wouters - Stevens - Klimovich
Mueller, Glover, Kambeitz
Brannstrom - Woo
Wolanin - McWard
Brisebois - Pettersson
Felton, Hirose
Patera
Tolopilo
The defense suddenly looks powerful, but overcrowded. And I honestly have doubts Danila Klimovich holds down a roster spot. Could easily see him coming out of the lineup - Ty Glover seemed popular in Abby, and Dino Kambeitz is an experienced player.
Anyone want to take a stab at the lineup (either when all healthy or what we'll actually see on opening night)? Has Abbotsford announced a final opening night roster? I haven't seen anything.
EDIT: @Mr. Canucklehead you must have been reading my mind.
EDIT: @Mr. Canucklehead you must have been reading my mind.
You’re missing Kudryavtsev.
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No love for Kiril Kudryavtsev?
Edit: I swear that I wasn't piling on. Vector just beat me to it by a second.
Mr. Canucklehead
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Actually, I could see the Canucks making an 'AHL-trade' for another AHL veteran, somebody like Justin Dowling, Kyle Rau or even Sheldon Dries. Of course it's likely to be somebody on an AHL deal only....and there are a few candidates on Abbotsford that would fit the bill.Woops.
Just furthers my point…blueline is crowded in Abby. I wonder if the Canucks try to make any deals, or assign some players elsewhere.
Team makes some cuts
Glad to see Loewen gone. But like always team has zero toughness outside of maybe Pettersson (who you don't want to put in that role).
Glad to see Loewen gone. But like always team has zero toughness outside of maybe Pettersson (who you don't want to put in that role).
What every happened to Vinny Arseneau? 40-plus games with Providence Bruins last season.
The Abby Canucks always played a lot bigger when Vinny was imposing his will out there.
Bains is going to have to reinvent his game if he wants to stick to the NHL. I see no path for him long term in the top 6 and as of now he currently doesn’t have the type of game that would make him last in any sort of bottom 6 role in the NHL.
Sherwood was a similar player to Bains but he quickly adapted to a role that would allow him to stick in the NHL as a checking forward/pest. Not every single skilled guy is going to make it to the NHL as one, especially undrafted late bloomers and the sooner Bains realizes this and tailors his game in a way that can actually meaningfully contribute to the NHL the better his chances are.
Sherwood was a similar player to Bains but he quickly adapted to a role that would allow him to stick in the NHL as a checking forward/pest. Not every single skilled guy is going to make it to the NHL as one, especially undrafted late bloomers and the sooner Bains realizes this and tailors his game in a way that can actually meaningfully contribute to the NHL the better his chances are.
- A minimum of 12 skaters that have played fewer than 260 professional games – development players
- A maximum of one skater that has played fewer than 320 professional games – veteran exempt player
- A maximum of five skaters that have played over 320 professional games – veteran players
Wolanin 266 games (AHL, NHL) combined.
Twarysnki 298 games (AHL, NHL) combined.
John Stevens, Sammy Blais and PDG are well over the 320 games played.
I also forgot about the new kid. Erik Brannstrom is 350 plus AHL and NHL games also.
The roster breakdown applies to players that dress for each game, so it is possible to have more than five veterans on the roster, but only five can play on any given night. The veteran and veteran exempt classification only applies to players 25 years of age or older or as of July 1.
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Brannstrom isn't a veteran this season as he was below the age requirement. At this point, they could play all of their veteran/veteran-exempt players on any given night.
You are right. For some reason I thought he was turning 26 but no he just turned 25 in Sept.
I don't know if Blais has a contract or not with Abby.
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So that would make 6 and you can only play 5 on any given night. Injuries bound to happen.
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You can play six as long as at least one of them is in the 261-320 range (veteran-exempt).
I'm clearly overthinking this in my head. Can Brisebois, Wolanin and Twarysnki be classified at "vets" even though they aren't over the 320?
