If you WANT to like something so badly, you will find a way to like it even if it's terrible.
A new contender for worst broadcaster of all time (Leah Hextall)
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If you WANT to like something so badly, you will find a way to like it even if it's terrible.
hb13xchamps
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The whole ESPN crew is pretty bad if we’re being honest. The TNT crew is a lot better and of course they seem to have less games on. Weekes is better served to be an intermission guy. Leah is better served to be a color commentator or an in between the benches type personality that you only hear from time to time. Linda Cohn should be hosting the in between period segments. I only watched a bit of the in between period segments and it was Torts rambling on about Zegras and his assist again. Their crew flat out stinks and it’s primarily due to the overall placement. It’s like the scrambled to sign anyone they could without thinking of how they could efficiently use them.
The Panther
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It sounds like you need to get 'woke' in a big way.
I'm sure we all agree that in a pie-in-the-sky, perfect world "every job should be the best of the best regardless of sex or race". But in 100% of real-life situations in human history, that has never happened, partly because of racism, classism, sexism, etc.
The struggle to be non-discriminatory is to embrace diversity by celebrating and highlighting the weaker and the less represented instead of further empowering the already strong and easily visible. The exact opposite of that would be precisely what you're suggesting -- leaving it to human discrimination entirely.
McShogun99
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Im a minority from a family of minorities and we all worked hard for where we are in life. I’ve never wanted something handed to me because I’m not white. No one should have that mentality, it just creates a weaker society. I could go on and on about this kind of stuff but this forum isn’t the proper place for that. At the end of the day Leah Hextall sucks.
The Panther
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I said nothing whatsoever about "handing" things to anyone.
It sounds like you're a survival-of-the-fittest enthusiast, as regards human societies. Some of us prefer a more humane approach to societies. It's just a different perspective.
MarkusNaslund19
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I concur with your perspective in general, but Leah Hextall just can't be the best woman for the job. She's bloody awful. In fact, there seems to be a nepotistic element to the hiring so in a sense it's a step forward and a step backward (or at least laterally) simultaneously.
winnipegger
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You're still leaving it to human discrimination. Just a different kind of discrimination. Don't act like it's not discrimination.
The Bucci/Cally duo is very good. They are just having fun out there. Can’t complain about ESPN too much , they have hyped Anaheim a lot this season, and hope their success continues. If the Ducks can find a way to sneak into a playoff spot, I’ll listen to Leah all F’ing day long, lol.
How about she sucks as a broadcaster. But probably brilliant at other things.
Is that discrimination? Or do i just place her way down in the standings of broadcasters due to skill of many others.
like the Habs, in the standings of hockey teams. They suck. Lots of better teams. Due to skill.
If I say Simpson on HNIC sucks compared to Ferraro on TSN. Discrimination?
BigBadBruins7708
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It's not discrimination, it's the fact that she sucks at her job and should be replaced regardless of what's between her legs.
Forget her voice, she cant even keep up with the action or call players by the right name or number. That's unacceptable, period.
Good god that ducks/totes game was brutal. She is awful.
winnipegger
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I agree with you, I was pointing out that the poster I quoted said women were discriminated against so it's fair to discriminate in the opposite. It's not, and they weren't.
This. I've been listening to women broadcasters for decades across various sports ( first I remember was '88 Olympics. Tennis, basketball, golf, curling, soccer, etc.) with no issue. Hextall is just objectively bad at the job. This isn't even an every night gig, she has several days to prepare for each game and still gets an incredible number of player names incorrect which is my main gripe. The voice is fine, the words that are coming out are not good enough at the moment for the top league in the world.
I've only seen clips of her during recaps, but she seems pretty brutal. Very disinterested and has trouble keeping up with the play. FWIW I think Cassie Cambell has improved tremendously, and I don't have much trouble listening to her call a game.
The Panther
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No, I'm not simply leaving it human discrimination. The kind of humanitarianism I'm talking about is supported by a wealth of research from around the world. Humans following their 'folk wisdom' about tribal priorities is not.
Choosing the best candidate no matter what their sex or race is like the definition of being non-discriminatory. If you're skipping over candidates until you reach someone who is of the "weaker and less represented" group for the sake of "embracing diversity," it's discrimination because you're decision is being based on sex or race or both. Forced diversity isn't always the best idea.
It is the philosophy of those who discriminate in the name of non-discrimination, teach hatred in the name of anti-hatred, and enforce racism in the name of anti-racism. In short it is the very evil its adherents claim to combat.
ArGarBarGar
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Did you get that from Merriam-Webster?
The Panther
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Again, your philosophy sounds great... except in the realm of reality.
Humans have consistently shown -- again and again, repeatedly, without cessation, in every culture, tribe, nation, and situation imaginable, the same 5000 years ago as today -- an inability to judge other people on merit, and without invoking racism, sexism, classism, gender-ism, etc.
Unless you think only white men were capable of being the head of government of English-speaking nations. Only they were the best. No other skin color or gender was good enough.
Asinine
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I know, it's a shame that because of this inability that society and humanity as a whole hasn't been able to progress over 5000 years whatsover.
We should have been picking the weak unqualified ones and maybe we could have made it to the moon.
What I don't understand is that your solution to fight against discrimination is to simply default to choosing the "weaker and the less represented" people. Unless you mean differently, I assume the people you are talking about are minority groups and women, while white men are the "already strong and easily visible" people. Instead of leaving it to "human discrimination" as you say, we'd be creating a system of discrimination, where we're taking the decision making of people out of the equation and simply making it policy to, at least more often, select people for positions because they aren't white and they aren't male. It's just robbing Peter to pay Paul, is it not?
SensontheRush
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It's more like we would be living on the moon already if we were better at propping up quality leaders regardless of their background.
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