OT: 87th Obsequious Banter Thread: Don't be Brash

[Asnito]

What ever happened to the covid threads? I vote we bring them back

 

[Asnito]

I showed this board what true fascism is. Now I’m away from my desk so all hell breaks loose.

Come on HC you know you loved it

 

[BernieParent]

Too late bub. From now on I'm relying on you for my weather.

Bellweather

 

[Hurricane28]

Just a hobby. Too much math involved for me to get into it in college.

@Hurricane28 is the real expert, he's just not here as often

line of storm is moving through now. Hopefully it's just rain and a few rumbles

Its a lot of math.

 

[Cody Webster]

Its a lot of math.

I never bothered for that reason. Ihad a buddy that started out in meteorology...he didn't last too long. I learned from him that it wasn't worth it lol.

Although, I slightly wish I would have looked into it

 

[Asnito]

Bellweather

BP you were on such a roll, what happened

 

[DancingPanther]

Huge adverse event analysis released yesterday. This analysis looked at up to 42 days post-vaccination for outcomes in almost 12 million vaccinations. There is a myth that adverse events may appear years or months later – but it isn't true. It just doesn’t happen with vaccines, where temporal effects are extremely short-term, usually within hours or days. Especially mRNA vaccines, where mRNA itself is unstable and broken down within an hour outside of cells, which it is outside of cells when injected via vaccination. This study shows that as there were no differences in excess adverse events (statistically, none) between 1 to 21 days compared to 22 to 42 days. Therefore, it's reasonable, knowing what we know about vaccines and mRNA vaccines specifically, to project these findings out and not expect any longstanding adverse effects. Needless to say, researchers will continue to monitor.

The myocarditis cluster in younger adults is interesting and has been mentioned in the literature. Even so, 6 excess cases in 1 million person years is absurdly low, lower than most rare adverse events associated with other medication. Overall, factoring in other age groups, no excess cases were concluded.

Surveillance for Adverse Events After COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination - PubMed

 

[Hurricane28]

Not necessarily attributing it to the vaccine (Moderna), but after I got dose 2, I began a couple month period of digestive issues. Some days were better than others, but then some days I would eat and it would go straight through me. Never have had any issues in the past. Never went to see a doctor about it because it would just be a 10 minute period of cramps, followed by a bathroom visit, and then I felt normal. Seems like I’m past it, but seemed very strange at the time.

I guess the point of that is for people more informed than me on the vaccine, has there been any side effect like this mentioned in studies?

 

[Beef Invictus]

And a popup storm spooks the dog. I should have drugged her into a happier realm

 

[DancingPanther]

Not necessarily attributing it to the vaccine (Moderna), but after I got dose 2, I began a couple month period of digestive issues. Some days were better than others, but then some days I would eat and it would go straight through me. Never have had any issues in the past. Never went to see a doctor about it because it would just be a 10 minute period of cramps, followed by a bathroom visit, and then I felt normal. Seems like I’m past it, but seemed very strange at the time.

I guess the point of that is for people more informed than me on the vaccine, has there been any side effect like this mentioned in studies?

No, in fact inidence of diarrhea was not even included in analysis of almost 20,000 people for Moderna. For nausea/vomiting, incidence was almost identical to placebo after dose 1 but almost tripled compared to placebo after dose 2 (20%), all subsiding within hours to days. No serious or unsolicited adverse events include anything associated with diarrhea.

 

[DancingPanther]

When do you guys think the ghost of Christmas future is going to come stab me in the eyeballs for choosing healthcare. Tonight is absolute lunacy. 2 new sick nicu babies

 

[BiggE]

When do you guys think the ghost of Christmas future is going to come stab me in the eyeballs for choosing healthcare. Tonight is absolute lunacy. 2 new sick nicu babies

Sorry man, that must be horrible

 

[Embiid]

Huge adverse event analysis released yesterday. This analysis looked at up to 42 days post-vaccination for outcomes in almost 12 million vaccinations. There is a myth that adverse events may appear years or months later – but it isn't true. It just doesn’t happen with vaccines, where temporal effects are extremely short-term, usually within hours or days. Especially mRNA vaccines, where mRNA itself is unstable and broken down within an hour outside of cells, which it is outside of cells when injected via vaccination. This study shows that as there were no differences in excess adverse events (statistically, none) between 1 to 21 days compared to 22 to 42 days. Therefore, it's reasonable, knowing what we know about vaccines and mRNA vaccines specifically, to project these findings out and not expect any longstanding adverse effects. Needless to say, researchers will continue to monitor.

The myocarditis cluster in younger adults is interesting and has been mentioned in the literature. Even so, 6 excess cases in 1 million person years is absurdly low, lower than most rare adverse events associated with other medication. Overall, factoring in other age groups, no excess cases were concluded.

Surveillance for Adverse Events After COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination - PubMed

You elites with your science....

 

[Jack Straw]

One does not vote for fascist polls to be brought back.

Either Beef, in his benevolence, gifts them to the unwashed masses. Or we revolt and murder him and put his body on public display. Voting? I’ve never heard such a silly thing in my life.

 

[Embiid]

What an idiot..

A woman was late for her flight. So she told airline workers there was a bomb on the plane, police say.

 

[Appleyard]

10% of England's ENTIRE population right now is awaiting routine surgeries...

5.6 million people. As basically nothing that is not emergency has been able to take place for the last 18 months.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Saltspring Island.

Where hippies roam wild

It's a nice place! People can get a little carried away, though. I was on a flight with a guy a few years ago who commutes to DC, spends 4 days/week there, and goes all the way back to Salt Spring every Thursday. That's a bit much.

 

[FlyerNutter]

10% of England's ENTIRE population right now is awaiting routine surgeries...

5.6 million people. As basically nothing that is not emergency has been able to take place for the last 18 months.

Do you mean to tell me, that systems built on houses of cards can’t handle any sort of influx?

Perhaps they should close all the pubs, thats the real problem after all. Restrictions for the masses baby.

Sarcasm

 

[Embiid]

Biden to announce that all federal workers must be vaccinated, with no option for testing - CNNPolitics

 

[Appleyard]

Do you mean to tell me, that systems built on houses of cards can’t handle any sort of influx?

Perhaps they should close all the pubs, thats the real problem after all. Restrictions for the masses baby.

Sarcasm

Right now COVID is pretty okay here. Like only 7% of hospital capacity with COVID patients. But just the backlog from 18 months going to take a loooooong time to get through.

But yeh, 12 years of effective funding cuts has not helped our health service. And now taxing the poor to pay for shortfalls that "Brexit" money was supposed to fill in their pack of lies manifesto. But ofc actually losing money and staff from Brexit so that is no help aha.

 

[Flybynite]

Huge adverse event analysis released yesterday. This analysis looked at up to 42 days post-vaccination for outcomes in almost 12 million vaccinations. There is a myth that adverse events may appear years or months later – but it isn't true. It just doesn’t happen with vaccines, where temporal effects are extremely short-term, usually within hours or days. Especially mRNA vaccines, where mRNA itself is unstable and broken down within an hour outside of cells, which it is outside of cells when injected via vaccination. This study shows that as there were no differences in excess adverse events (statistically, none) between 1 to 21 days compared to 22 to 42 days. Therefore, it's reasonable, knowing what we know about vaccines and mRNA vaccines specifically, to project these findings out and not expect any longstanding adverse effects. Needless to say, researchers will continue to monitor.

The myocarditis cluster in younger adults is interesting and has been mentioned in the literature. Even so, 6 excess cases in 1 million person years is absurdly low, lower than most rare adverse events associated with other medication. Overall, factoring in other age groups, no excess cases were concluded.

Surveillance for Adverse Events After COVID-19 mRNA Vaccination - PubMed

But science and facts and research don't actually matter. It's not what the vast bulk of the anti-vax will ever read or talk about. What matters more is some rando with an outlet via either social media or broadcast spouting of some untruth and bam. That suddenly matters more than extensive research, science, and facts.

 

[landsbergfan]

This is going to be terrible, right? I want to be excited

 

[Lord Defect]

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Cowards. The lot of ya.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Not necessarily attributing it to the vaccine (Moderna), but after I got dose 2, I began a couple month period of digestive issues. Some days were better than others, but then some days I would eat and it would go straight through me. Never have had any issues in the past. Never went to see a doctor about it because it would just be a 10 minute period of cramps, followed by a bathroom visit, and then I felt normal. Seems like I’m past it, but seemed very strange at the time.

I guess the point of that is for people more informed than me on the vaccine, has there been any side effect like this mentioned in studies?

I would guess it's related. It's likely that the majority of people suffering relatively minor adverse reactions don't report them, so they aren't officially tracked.

A friend of mine who is only in his 30s ended up in the hospital for weeks with heart inflammation after taking his 2nd jab. I would hope that is officially reported as an adverse reaction, but based on what he told me the hospital staff was trying to chalk it up as a coincidence, which is disturbing.

My mother's liver enzymes shot through the roof after she received her 2nd shot. She's never once had elevated liver enzymes. No proof that it was caused by the jab, but the timing makes it seems pretty damn probable.

A female friend of mine said she had atrophy to her breast on the same side as the shoulder she received the jab. Again, not something someone is going to report, but still makes one wonder.

Now the NIH has funded a major study in response to thousands of women reporting substantial changes to their menstrual cycles following vaccination, which they said they didn't anticipate (maybe something they should have researched sooner?). That's kind of scary. Is it possible these shots could have adverse effects on women's reproductive systems? I certainly would have enough of a hesitancy where if I had a teen daughter in the Los Angeles public school system, which is mandating vaccination for all students, I'd be irate and finding her a new school.

And if the plan now is to require never-ending booster shots every six months or so, well, I just cannot fathom how it is healthy long term to repeatedly expose your body to that type of inflammation.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Apparently correlation=causation.


Then again you oppose all functional treatments for COVID in favor of snake oil and maximizing death and suffering and impact, so maybe your takes aren't the best here.