Post-Game Talk: 8 Years, $92 Million

[TheWrongWay]

I’ve been watching Ranger hockey for a very long time and this season has been the hardest to watch bar none.

The late 70s designer jean ads were unsettling. But at least they went to the SCF that season

 

[NickyFotiu]

Zibs who has been playing better is having a crazy plus/minus year. -2 in a 3-2 game? -23 on the year when next closest guy (Laf -12) plays on a different line? Sometimes these minus games are deserved. Sometimes they are a fluke.

Speaking of Laf remember when he was going to be the guy. We need him to remember very soon

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I'm not disappointed with the effort as I thought we took it to them most of the game and it was one of our better games in a while. My biggest issue was putting Kreider on that pp instead of a shooter. 4 on 3 Trochek could handle net front as they need him for the faceoff, they needed another shooting threat on the ice, it was mind boggling, game should have been over then

We have terrible coaching, in addition to our other problems . They always make the dumbest decisions

Lindgren, even while playing most of his minutes with Fox is last on the team in xGA/60 (for reference, Fox is 2nd.)

Thats a feat for a supposed "defensive" defenseman.

Schneider/Vaak just doesn't drive any offense (or hasn't to this point.) Their defensive numbers are fine and for a bottom pair that's what I'd rather have anyway.

I'd like to see what Schneider-Fox looks like but that isn't happening until #55 is gone and probably won't even after that.

Lindgren is just a terrible player at this point and only the idiot ass Rongos are dumb enough to keep him on the top pair and drag down their only good defenseman

 

[Siddi]

Panarin and Kreider were the worst players on the ice tonight. I couldnt believe my eyes when Kreider was on the ice for the powerplay in OT. Laviolette mustve been watching the WWE recently.

Mind boggling. 4 on 3 gives them all the time and space they need to setup for Mikas one-timer and instead they put Kreider out there and play keep away for 2 minutes.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

If Laf doesn't shoot an open one timer 10 feet wide with a few mins to go, or Lindgren clears the puck in the moments before the tying goal, we win that game. Or you know, scoring on a PP in OT or a breakaway by your #1 center in OT.

Igor the least of the issues tonight

Or you know if you know Igor makes a routine save...

This board just cannot ever blame the goalie for anything because they just prefer to say the team sucks even when they did everything to win defensively.

 

[Fitzy]

Panarin and Kreider were the worst players on the ice tonight. I couldnt believe my eyes when Kreider was on the ice for the powerplay in OT. Laviolette mustve been watching the WWE recently.

IDK, Laf was extremely bad last night.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Panarin and Kreider were the worst players on the ice tonight. I couldnt believe my eyes when Kreider was on the ice for the powerplay in OT. Laviolette mustve been watching the WWE recently.

Nothing will change as long as mika and kreider are on this roster.

 

[McRanger92]

IDK, Laf was extremely bad last night.

There were about 5 other players more deserving than an injured Kreider being out there so he could get a feel good moment.

 

[McRanger92]

Mind boggling. 4 on 3 gives them all the time and space they need to setup for Mikas one-timer and instead they put Kreider out there and play keep away for 2 minutes.

Cant wait for another year plus of being told Panarin is awesome because of his point totals. The guy was never a team player but its only gotten worse over the years. And before anyone tries to disagree with me, the guy has had a personal center since day 1, whether it's been Strome or Trocheck.

 

[will1066]

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

IDK, Laf was extremely bad last night.

Laf was the only one creating any offense.

He didn’t make anything of his chances, but he had them.

Panarin was throwing the puck away pretty much any chance he had.

 

[McRanger92]

Laf was the only one creating any offense.

He didn’t make anything of his chances, but he had them.

Panarin was throwing the puck away pretty much any chance he had.

Yeah I thought Laf was all over the place tonight, he just can't finish. No one on this team can. except our 4th liners i guess.

 

[Machinehead]

This team is in a tough spot where we're all sick of the top talent and the top talent isn't really getting it done, but they would also need to replace that talent.

If Alexis Lafreniere is your best forward, you're not a playoff team.

It doesn't look good.

 

[McRanger92]

This team is in a tough spot where we're all sick of the top talent and the top talent isn't really getting it done, but they would also need to replace that talent.

If Alexis Lafreniere is your best forward, you're not a playoff team.

It doesn't look good.

They aren't a playoff team with Panarin as our best player either so glad we got that sorted

 

[The Crypto Guy]

We are back to blaming Igor for losses when our top 9 haven't scored an ES goal in almost 12 periods?????

Yes you read that correctly, it's been 11 periods and 15 minutes since someone in the top 3 lines scored an ES goal.

 

[Machinehead]

They aren't a playoff team with Panarin as our best player either so glad we got that sorted

Ok, so then they're probably a lottery team without him.

I don't see any easy way to replace players that they're going to need to replace. They're probably better off letting it burn for a couple of years.

We are back to blaming Igor for losses when our top 9 haven't scored an ES goal in almost 12 periods?????

Yes you read that correctly, it's been 11 periods and 15 minutes since someone in the top 3 lines scored an ES goal.

Yes.

He lost every last but of grace when he made it a point that he had to be the highest paid goalie of all-time by some distance.

 

[Leonardo87]

This team is in a tough spot where we're all sick of the top talent and the top talent isn't really getting it done, but they would also need to replace that talent.

If Alexis Lafreniere is your best forward, you're not a playoff team.

It doesn't look good.

At least Ryan Strome is not the 1C . See, things could be worse. I think.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

We are back to blaming Igor for losses when our top 9 haven't scored an ES goal in almost 12 periods?????

Yes you read that correctly, it's been 11 periods and 15 minutes since someone in the top 3 lines scored an ES goal.

They were a minute away from winning and the defense shut them down. When the defense sucks it's the defense, when the offense sucks it's the offense. It's f***ing never Igor. Because if we ever blame Igor we might have to admit this is not the worst team in the history of hockey.

 

[Fitzy]

This team is in a tough spot where we're all sick of the top talent and the top talent isn't really getting it done, but they would also need to replace that talent.

If Alexis Lafreniere is your best forward, you're not a playoff team.

It doesn't look good.

The amount of assets they'd need to try to improve the roster would just about bankrupt the system. Two marquee trades for a forward and defenseman would likely see the Rangers out Perreault, Othmann, and 2 more 1st round picks.

Half measures on players like Cobb that are cheaper don't improve the overall build of the roster enough.

All the younger players we hoped might take steps forward this season have not except Cuylle. Everyone else in their mid 20's has stagnated or regressed.

So it's not an ideal situation. You can go try to make big Yandle/MSL trades but then you're really in the shitter if we don't win.

 

[Machinehead]

At least Ryan Strome is not the 1C . See, things could be worse. I think.

Idk take out Panarin and do we have a better forward group than the Ducks?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

They were a minute away from winning and the defense shut them down. When the defense sucks it's the defense, when the offense sucks it's the offense. It's f***ing never Igor. Because if we ever blame Igor we might have to admit this is not the worst team in the history of hockey.

Clearly they didn't, Lindgren not in proper position on the tying goal to tie up his man or clear the rebound doesn't help.

If the PP on a 4-3 could do anything we wouldn't even have the game winning shot taken.

But oh well, onto the next. The 4th line is really going to need to pick up their play and score more if we want to win games.

 

[McRanger92]

Ok, so then they're probably a lottery team without him.

I don't see any easy way to replace players that they're going to need to replace. They're probably better off letting it burn for a couple of years.

Yes.

He lost every last but of grace when he made it a point that he had to be the highest paid goalie of all-time by some distance.

Im not letting shit burn for any amount of time unless Panarin and Kreider are gone this summer. You can trace every leadership, development, on-ice role(etc) question the last 5 years back to those 2. We haven't won, and it's all over but the crying for these guys.

I want the team to play well and I want to make a run at the playoffs, but games like these are the most demoralizing because it's our veterans fault that we are in this hole in the first place. Them being 0 for 10 on chances to get an insurance goal has been a theme forever.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Clearly they didn't, Lindgren not in proper position on the tying goal to tie up his man or clear the rebound doesn't help.

If the PP on a 4-3 could do anything we wouldn't even have the game winning shot taken.

But oh well, onto the next. The 4th line is really going to need to pick up their play and score more if we want to win games.

The defense should have cleared but they allowed a shot without a screen from the point. That's a nothing shot to am NHL goalie. But Igor isn't an NHL goalie.

 

[McRanger92]

They were a minute away from winning and the defense shut them down. When the defense sucks it's the defense, when the offense sucks it's the offense. It's f***ing never Igor. Because if we ever blame Igor we might have to admit this is not the worst team in the history of hockey.

We never blame Igor?

 

[Machinehead]

Im not letting shit burn for any amount of time unless Panarin and Kreider are gone this summer. You can trace every leadership, development, on-ice role(etc) question the last 5 years back to those 2. We haven't won, and it's all over but the crying for these guys.

I want the team to play well and I want to make a run at the playoffs, but games like these are the most demoralizing because it's our veterans fault that we are in this hole in the first place. Them being 0 for 10 on chances to get an insurance goal has been a theme forever.

I agree with you. I'm not that interested in development until the culture changes.

Once that's done, development is what needs to take place. This team is in terrible shape. Probably the worst I've seen them since the lockout.

The old core is finished and Gorton failed to put together a new core. Drury is going to end up doing his own teardown.