GDT: #8| Pens vs. Canucks| Friday, Oct. 28 (10:00 PM EST) RA | Is this the Back to Back you are looking for?

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

Would be great if we get Jake back tonight. I doubt it though. Maybe tomorrow night.

 

[Gurglesons]

I mean we whine about points sometimes. But then other times points don't mean much and it's about playing good defense. Just depends on the day and the player.

Carter has been largely fine and I'm not a Carter fan. I just wish they didn't look at him as some kind of shutdown guy. He's an offensive-first forward that still has a pretty deadly shot and is a righty so he can take some important draws. That's the list at this point in his career. It's the only reason I'm not completely rolling my eyes at the idea of parking him on Malkin's wing for now. He can at least shoot the puck and generally understands the offensive zone which is like... gold on this team.

If we are going to criticize this and Dumoulin's usage it seems silly to target the players themselves. That ain't their fault.

Petts and Rutta should be playing above Dumo given their years.

Carter is a little more unique because Blueger being out and McGinn sucking complete donkey dick is significantly effecting our defensive bottom six.

 

[66-30-33]

8-3 loss

Damn, Letang that bad tonight?

 

[Ugene Magic]

Except we were never whining about points…he can do that well…it’s the rest of his game during those D starts lol

Another game where Carter gets a -1 and he was literally never on the ice for a single goal in Calgary.

That's twice this year this has happen.

 

[madinsomniac]

Hopefully we dont Go 0-for-Canada this year…

 

[Gurglesons]

Jake's is cleared for contact but out tonight.

 

[Pancakes]

Jake's is cleared for contact but out tonight.

I wonder if they will hold him out until Tuesday

 

[Gurglesons]

I wonder if they will hold him out until Tuesday

Imagine he plays tomorrow. But maybe not.



FYI.

 

[PensandCaps]

Lol remember that fans were fine with protecting Blueger over McCann.


It’s hard to show what POJ has when he’s benched in favor of friggin Ruh.

I think Blueger is more valuable than McCann in a 4C/3C role and in the playoffs with his elite defense.

Don't miss McCann at all lol.

So POJ sat out one game on the back to back and people knee jerked unnecessarily? wow no way..

 

[Pancakes]

Imagine he plays tomorrow. But maybe not.



FYI.

If he's cleared for contact they would still need him to practice and test how the contact went. I suppose maybe that was done today and that's enough, but if it's a concussion they're worried about it might take a few more days to clear him to play.

 

[Gurglesons]

If he's cleared for contact they would still need him to practice and test how the contact went. I suppose maybe that was done today and that's enough, but if it's a concussion they're worried about it might take a few more days to clear him to play.

If it was a concussion he would not have flown.

 

[Andy99]

Imagine he plays tomorrow. But maybe not.



FYI.

Well let’s hope Sullivan gets his head out of ass and plays POJ …also, IMO switch Carter and Kap…

If he's cleared for contact they would still need him to practice and test how the contact went. I suppose maybe that was done today and that's enough, but if it's a concussion they're worried about it might take a few more days to clear him to play.

It’d be nice to have reinforcements for tomorrow’s b2b so a couple other old guys could sit lol…if Sully was inclined to do that, which he doesn’t appear to be…sit Carter for example lol

 

[Andy99]

If it was a concussion he would not have flown.

He didn’t have symptoms so he flew…doesn’t mean concussion couldn’t show itself later…they can sometimes be tricky diagnose…I don’t think he has a concussion, just an ear injury, but there’s no question in my mind that they’ve been extra cautious just in case concussion symptoms materialize

 

[dingo71]

Players fly all the time with concussions. Tua flew home a few hours after being lobotomized in Cincinnati

 

[RSPens]

Damn, Letang that bad tonight?

I kinda wanted to "like" this, but since it is sadly true, I don't like it. I have seen a lot said about Dumo's play, and articles even written about it. Yet if you look at all the goals scored against the Pens this season, it almost feels like Letang is partially responsible for about half of them and a couple he handed right to the other team. I love the guy and I understand that he is the Pen's #1 D, but when they are down a couple offensive forwards and they have a glut of NHL defenseman, maybe Letang should take a few laps next to Sid or Geno.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I think Blueger is more valuable than McCann in a 4C/3C role and in the playoffs with his elite defense.

Don't miss McCann at all lol.

So POJ sat out one game on the back to back and people knee jerked unnecessarily? wow no way..

Well, then I guess we should all be glad neither of these two were ever in a battle for the 4c/3c tweener role. Even associating McCann in the bottom of the bottom six role is asinine. He was seen and used as a top 6 role and a serviceable middle six player. And Blueger has not exactly been elite in the playoffs. McCann in his days as a Penguin also had near elite defensive metrics while serving as a top nine player. Also had better goal scoring metrics.

Also, neither were great at faceoffs while both were here.

Maybe rank McCann vs his replacement.... Carter.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think Blueger is more valuable than McCann in a 4C/3C role and in the playoffs with his elite defense.

Don't miss McCann at all lol.

So POJ sat out one game on the back to back and people knee jerked unnecessarily? wow no way..

I mean, it's still incredibly stupid that he sat one game on the back to back.

And when he presumably sits against Seattle tomorrow night, it will still be incredibly stupid then.

 

[Gurglesons]

Well, then I guess we should all be glad neither of these two were ever in a battle for the 4c/3c tweener role. Even associating McCann in the bottom of the bottom six role is asinine. He was seen and used as a top 6 role and a serviceable middle six player. And Blueger has not exactly been elite in the playoffs. McCann in his days as a Penguin also had near elite defensive metrics while serving as a top nine player. Also had better goal scoring metrics.

Also, neither were great at faceoffs while both were here.

Maybe rank McCann vs his replacement.... Carter.

McCann never played 3C when this team was healthy.

Cullen, Blueger, Bjugstad, Jankowski and then Rodrigues all played over him until we got Carter. McCann was also consistently in the bottom six.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Meh. Expecting a loss.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

That Pens top 6 is shit, it’s like we don’t have youth that is worthy of a shot.
Sully porn with all the grinders in higher up spots.
This might be a regretful night.

We better not be the first team to lose to the Canucks. It hasn't been a great road trip to Alberta, let's not make it worse in BC.

We will be the second.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Meh. Expecting a loss.

Easy expectation.

Carter on RW with Malkin is peak Sullivan ingenuity.

If we are going to criticize this and Dumoulin's usage it seems silly to target the players themselves. That ain't their fault.

Petts and Rutta should be playing above Dumo given their years.

Carter is a little more unique because Blueger being out and McGinn sucking complete donkey dick is significantly effecting our defensive bottom six.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Made it to Vancouver with time for several hours of pregame beers. Met a guy from pens TV crew who got our section to get the pens jerseys on TV. Get to show off my errey. Let's go pens.

 

[Ugene Magic]

McCann never played 3C when this team was healthy.

Cullen, Blueger, Bjugstad, Jankowski and then Rodrigues all played over him until we got Carter. McCann was also consistently in the bottom six.

Considering Malkin, and or Crosby have been out of the lineup almost always, McCann played 2c a fair amount. Bjugstad was never healthy, either. E-Rod was after he was gone. When healthy, he was 2 LW. Which is almost never. Really, it's about a 50/50 split. It also dependent on how they were doing as a line. McCann is a 2c who held good defensive metrics. Blueger was never really the 3c either, just because he got the minutes as the defensive 4c didn't make him the 3c.

When was McCann used as the 4c?

Never.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

My brothers in Christ, who gives a shit about Jared McCann.

 

[Gurglesons]

Considering Malkin, and or Crosby have been out of the lineup almost always, McCann played 2c a fair amount. Bjugstad was never healthy, either. E-Rod was after he was gone. When healthy, he was 2 LW. Which is almost never. Really, it's about a 50/50 split. It also dependent on how they were doing as a line. McCann is a 2c who held good defensive metrics. Blueger was never really the 3c either, just because he got the minutes as the defensive 4c didn't make him the 3c.

When was McCann used as the 4c?

Never.

Rodrigues was acquired in 2019-20 and played a full season with McCann in 2021 where they both played the same exact ice time and roughly took the same amount of face offs.