GDT: #8| Pens vs. Canucks| Friday, Oct. 28 (10:00 PM EST) RA | Is this the Back to Back you are looking for?

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AuroraBorealis

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West coast? More like worst coast.
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Jacob

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Best case scenario for us with Vancouver getting a win finally. They'd have been foaming at the mouth against us, especially if we went up by a few.
 

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Seattle really is filled to brim with former Penguins—McCann, Tanev, Oleksiak , Schultz and they all had points tonight against the Canucks…lol…McCann has more goals than any current Penguin…the Canucks only have brief Penguin player Tanner Pearson…the goaltending for both those teams are bad but somehow that rarely seems to matter when teams play the Pens lol..in other words we really should score 6 goals against both these teams, so expect a shut out…
Just remember that we had to protect Carter and couldn't have kept McCann. Makes total sense. To someone that "knows hockey" and is a hockey professional.

I'm sorry if I still can't let this go.
 

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Just remember that we had to protect Carter and couldn't have kept McCann. Makes total sense. To someone that "knows hockey" and is a hockey professional.

I'm sorry if I still can't let this go.
Yes, the decision to re-sign Carter gets more ridiculous by the game but he’s still a better PO performer than Jared “Invisible man” McCann…
 

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When TB is back that helps the lines. Carter as to play RW now as he simply isn't a good 200 foot center now. Poulin gives the Pens a potential 3rd line center and Hextall has to move TB or McGinn for cap space. Petts is not being shopped as teams don't want that contract. I move Dumo but who will take that 4 million for a declining D man? Teams with cap space don't need a 4 million D man who is no longer close to that. But Hextall needs to do something as having 83k in cap space is just not enough to give the GM some flexibility.
 
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Pens win the next 2 and then at least 6 points out of a possible 10 isn't the worst road trip.
 

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The only reason McCann should've been protected (and I agree he should've) was to move him without the impending pressure of the expansion draft looming. Probably wouldn't have gotten much more, but maybe.

Still should've have made it through that summer in a Pens uniform though. Dude's a nothingmancer when it matters, and a team with a core this age doesn't have the luxury of waiting for him to wake up once the playoffs start.
 

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Bold prediction - if the Pens score 6, they will probably win. So, come on, boys, score 6!

Either that or the Pens are shut out by some random backup goalie.
 

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Carter: 6 points - L3, 71% D-zone role, PP2
Rust: 6 points - L2, 41% D-zone role, PP1
Geno: 7 points - L2, 38% D-zone role, PP1

HF Pens: Whining about Carter
It's almost like we have watched this movie before - a strong start for Carter, then he comes back to earth because he plays too much for a guy his age and Sully has the delusion that he is a defensive stalwart. This eventually leads to the playoffs where he is exposed big time.
Of course, Sid and Geno are not exactly young, either, so maybe if we make the playoffs they will be exposed too, but there are reasons to not get too excited by Carter killing it in October. He is a useful guy to have on the roster, don't get me wrong but is certainly not what Sully thinks he is at this stage of his career.
 
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The offense has been fine. The defense....

And for some reason Sullivan keeps deploying him in a defensive role, which he is not suited for at this stage of his career


Not really sure what that chart is measuring. Most likely expected GA.

He's outshooting, out scoring and out chancing, and out scoring chancing the other team while on the ice in really defensive minutes.

He's HD chances and goals are in the negative, but not really sure why anyone would say Jeff Carter is bad right now.
 

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Not really sure what that chart is measuring. Most likely expected GA.

He's outshooting, out scoring and out chancing, and out scoring chancing the other team while on the ice in really defensive minutes.

He's HD chances and goals are in the negative, but not really sure why anyone would say Jeff Carter is bad right now.
He's fine. He was bad last season when injuries hit because he played way too long in a roll he's not suited for anymore (top 6), got tired and because he's older he didn't recover like he used to when he was younger. He's a 3rd line player now. All he needed was a long rest which he gets every year when we bounce early.
 

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Not really sure what that chart is measuring. Most likely expected GA.

He's outshooting, out scoring and out chancing, and out scoring chancing the other team while on the ice in really defensive minutes.

He's HD chances and goals are in the negative, but not really sure why anyone would say Jeff Carter is bad right now.
It's measuring defensive/offensive WAR

I don't think he's bad, I just don't view him as a shutdown center, but that's the way the Pens seem to try to use him.

I guess Sullivan's logic is to let our top six try to outscore teams and hope that the bottom six can play it even. But I don't know that Carter is suited for that role any more. I think he might be better served to be getting soft offensive minutes and maybe let Sid handle the tough defensive assignments.
 
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Andy99

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Carter: 6 points - L3, 71% D-zone role, PP2
Rust: 6 points - L2, 41% D-zone role, PP1
Geno: 7 points - L2, 38% D-zone role, PP1

HF Pens: Whining about Carter
Except we were never whining about points…he can do that well…it’s the rest of his game during those D starts lol
 

BlindWillyMcHurt

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I mean we whine about points sometimes. But then other times points don't mean much and it's about playing good defense. Just depends on the day and the player.

Carter has been largely fine and I'm not a Carter fan. I just wish they didn't look at him as some kind of shutdown guy. He's an offensive-first forward that still has a pretty deadly shot and is a righty so he can take some important draws. That's the list at this point in his career. It's the only reason I'm not completely rolling my eyes at the idea of parking him on Malkin's wing for now. He can at least shoot the puck and generally understands the offensive zone which is like... gold on this team.
 
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