OT: 58th Obsequious Banter Thread - Something Something Leier

[Sombastate]

The past 3 days I ran into a young lady named Lauren who was celebrating her friend's 20th birthday this weekend at the Festival.

I saw her each of the last 3 days and got to know a little about her. They were in town from Orange County and seemed to be having the time of their lives. She told me yesterday that she called into work today because she wouldn't be back in Orange County until 4 am this morning.

I'll never know if they were ok or not.

I'm glad everyone that i know and love is ok, but I can't stop thinking about Lauren and her friend.

 

[Lord Defect]

No one without a very in depth background check and a large sum of money can legally get a fully automatic weapon. From the videos it sounded like he had a BMF Activator. That is a little reel, think fishing rod, that attaches to the trigger guard and pulls the trigger at a rate far faster than someone could pull. The rate of fire slows down and speeds up.
I'm pro gun but I won't get into any of that. What happened is a god damned tragedy and I would like to know why it happened. With him taking his own life we probably won't find out the reasoning though.
I'm not putting this on the hotel at all, but how in the hell did he get that much gear into the hotel? The weight of it should have drawn some flags, if a bellhop helped him, and unless he had each weapon broken down they wouldn't fit into normal luggage.
It's astounding how quickly the police responded.

 

[Rebels57]

The past 3 days I ran into a young lady named Lauren who was celebrating her friend's 20th birthday this weekend at the Festival.

I saw her each of the last 3 days and got to know a little about her. They were in town from Orange County and seemed to be having the time of their lives. She told me yesterday that she called into work today because she wouldn't be back in Orange County until 4 am this morning.

I'll never know if they were ok or not.

I'm glad everyone that i know and love is ok, but I can't stop thinking about Lauren and her friend.

I believe there is something circulating on facebook that helps you locate friends and family members. You should look into that and see if you can locate all of the Laurens.

 

[Lord Defect]

The past 3 days I ran into a young lady named Lauren who was celebrating her friend's 20th birthday this weekend at the Festival.

I saw her each of the last 3 days and got to know a little about her. They were in town from Orange County and seemed to be having the time of their lives. She told me yesterday that she called into work today because she wouldn't be back in Orange County until 4 am this morning.

I'll never know if they were ok or not.

I'm glad everyone that i know and love is ok, but I can't stop thinking about Lauren and her friend.

I'm glad to see you posting bud. Your going to drive yourself crazy thinking that way though man.

 

[Sombastate]

Its just tough. I'm a musician. I performed at a festival 9 days ago in Vegas. To say this hits close to home doesn't quite envelope the feeling.

I don't know many country fans, and the ones that I do know, were immediately accounted for. But this girl and her friend were just fans who went out to enjoy themselves at a music festival.

I turned 29 on Friday. Lauren turned 29 on Wednesday. I didn't even meet her friend, or catch her name.

Maybe these are just the emotions of the "day after," but i feel awful for them, man.

 

[Lord Defect]

Not to make it possibly more morbid, but everyone you ever meet could come to an untimely and tragic death. They could have a heart attack clocking into work the next day, or be in a car accident twelve years later. If it's impossible to find out, you have to just roll with it man. If there is a way, and Rebel posted a fairly decent one, try to find out.
People beat themselves up all the time over shouldawouldacoulda, but what's done is done.
For all you know her friend could have gotten sick and they left early, then she called out sick and is hungover in Orange County and hasn't even seen the news.

 

[Cody Webster]

Man, that must be such an awful feeling. Hopefully you find a way to reach her and she's safe.

 

[Sombastate]

I posted something on Facebook, and I have a decent amount of followers/friends. I'm hoping that it gets shared a bunch and that maybe it will reach her.

 

[Oskar Man]

IMO, a ban on assault rifles won't change much. Sick demented people will still find a way to kill/hurt people if that's their initiative.

I own a pistol (that literally sits in a locked case 99.9% of the time) and have shot AR-15's and just want to get the point across that I'm not one of those pro-NRA people. It's damn near impossible for a civilian to legally obtain a fully automatic rifle. The AR-15's that civilians can legally buy are nothing more than a pistol with a longer barrel. It seems like there's a lot of misinformation being reported on the topic, as is usually the case after these tragedies. I'm not saying that the laws as they stand are perfect, but the reactionary anti-gun grandstanding gets tiresome, especially from people who literally have no knowledge on the subject.

Also, for the record, this is not pointed towards any of the posters in here.

 

[Oskar Man]

On a related note, I searched YouTube for the shooters brother interview. The right wing conspiracy nuts are out in full effect as the 3rd video down was labeled something like "Las Vegas shooters brother is the worst crisis actor ever".

Those conspiracy nuts never cease to amaze me.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

I think the idea of having Class 3 weapons in general is absolutely pointless and should be outlawed for anyone outside the military, law enforcement and licensed collectors. There is no reason to own fully automatic weapons, suppressors and explosives (such as grenades and whatnot). Another thing is to outlaw open-to-the-public gun expos. In PA, we usually have a ton and with those kinds of places you can get buy a gun with cash if you're confident and don't get caught. People can sell you weapons even if you have priors and it's illegal for you to own a gun. I will admit this, I've never fired a real gun before, however, I always wanted to own one and I think that if you do want to own one, go through the proper channels. I'm a firm believer in full paperwork and tracing of firearms as well. I'm not saying it will stop it, but it will help limit the damage.

There's my two cents on guns.

 

[YEM]

I'm not saying that the laws as they stand are perfect, but the reactionary anti-gun grandstanding gets tiresome, especially from people who literally have no knowledge on the subject.

frankly it's a bit more tiresome to wake up to the news of another awful tragedy due to guns rather than hearing from some who might not be the most educated on the subject whine about guns in America

 

[Rebels57]

On a related note, I searched YouTube for the shooters brother interview. The right wing conspiracy nuts are out in full effect as the 3rd video down was labeled something like "Las Vegas shooters brother is the worst crisis actor ever".

Those conspiracy nuts never cease to amaze me.

They are damn near the lowest of the low.

 

[Rebels57]

I think the idea of having Class 3 weapons in general is absolutely pointless and should be outlawed for anyone outside the military, law enforcement and licensed collectors. There is no reason to own fully automatic weapons, suppressors and explosives (such as grenades and whatnot). Another thing is to outlaw open-to-the-public gun expos. In PA, we usually have a ton and with those kinds of places you can get buy a gun with cash if you're confident and don't get caught. People can sell you weapons even if you have priors and it's illegal for you to own a gun. I will admit this, I've never fired a real gun before, however, I always wanted to own one and I think that if you do want to own one, go through the proper channels. I'm a firm believer in full paperwork and tracing of firearms as well. I'm not saying it will stop it, but it will help limit the damage.

There's my two cents on guns.

I 100% agree with you.

In fact, polls show that the majority of Americans agree with this.

 

[OzFlyers]

RIP Tom Petty

 

[Oskar Man]

I think the idea of having Class 3 weapons in general is absolutely pointless and should be outlawed for anyone outside the military, law enforcement and licensed collectors. There is no reason to own fully automatic weapons, suppressors and explosives (such as grenades and whatnot). Another thing is to outlaw open-to-the-public gun expos. In PA, we usually have a ton and with those kinds of places you can get buy a gun with cash if you're confident and don't get caught. People can sell you weapons even if you have priors and it's illegal for you to own a gun. I will admit this, I've never fired a real gun before, however, I always wanted to own one and I think that if you do want to own one, go through the proper channels. I'm a firm believer in full paperwork and tracing of firearms as well. I'm not saying it will stop it, but it will help limit the damage.

There's my two cents on guns.

I believe the only way for a civilian to legally obtain a fully automatic gun is that the gun had to be manufactured before the mid-80's and they're EXPENSIVE. Other than the cost, I believe there's a ton of other screens and such one has to go through. Basically, unless you have a ton of time and money, it's not worth it for normal everyday gun enthusiasts.

Explosives should be outlawed to civilians, but I'm kind of "meh" on suppressors. They're only effective at long range (the gun is still loud up close) and the majority of the mass shootings we've seen were close quarters. Suppressors are very expensive and are only really bought by the real "enthusiasts".

Agreed on the ease of acquiring due to some loopholes. Admittedly, when I bought my pistol, I was literally in and out of the gun shop in 20 minutes. In that time they ran my background in under a minute. It took more time to do the paperwork than to approve me and pay. Although I will say that I've never had any legal issues other than stupid PPA tickets. Still though, it was my first gun purchase and I still felt it was a bit too easy.

 

[Striiker]

frankly it's a bit more tiresome to wake up to the news of another awful tragedy due to guns rather than hearing from some who might not be the most educated on the subject whine about guns in America

Well luckily it isn't a choice between one or the other.

Best case scenario would be stopping awful events from happening AND people stop spreading misinformation by talking out of their asses about subjects they aren't educated on. Especially people with large followings.

 

[Oskar Man]

Well luckily it isn't a choice between one or the other.

Best case scenario would be stopping awful events from happening AND people stop spreading misinformation by talking out of their asses about subjects they aren't educated on. Especially people with large followings.

The absolute worst. Make your movies/music and shut up.

 

[Rebels57]

The absolute worst. Make your movies/music and shut up.

Actors and musicians are citizens just like anyone else and have the right to voice their opinion.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Speaking of musicians, Tom Petty died.


I too am dead.

 

[Striiker]

The absolute worst. Make your movies/music and shut up.

At this point, I'm so pessimistic when it comes to like 99% of people. It feels like people just want to virtue signal on every topic and I don't for a second believe that they actually care.

And to be clear, I'm talking about both people who agree and disagree with me on whatever topic. In their rush to declare their opinion they sacrifice accuracy for speed... which is how we end up with so much misinformation being spread. Just further proof they don't actually care.

 

[Oskar Man]

Actors and musicians are citizens just like anyone else and have the right to voice their opinion.

Absolutely they can and it's their right. However, they have massive followings of gullible people who lack their own critical thinking skills. There's a lot of responsibility that comes with being at that status level and to blindly take to social media with your opinions on huge social matters is, in my opinion, very irresponsible.

It's the same as people who rag on Trump for airing his views on Twitter. He shouldn't do it and they shouldn't do it, but it's their right to do so.

 

[Striiker]

Actors and musicians are citizens just like anyone else and have the right to voice their opinion.

Of course they do, but their huge followings also give them more responsibility to be educated on whatever they're talking about.

If some random idiot like myself says something incorrect online it makes no difference because who gives a f*** what I think? But these celebrities have followings of people who worship them and will believe anything they say.

 

[Sombastate]

Speaking of musicians, Tom Petty died.


I too am dead.

Breaks my heart, man

 

[Lord Defect]

I think the idea of having Class 3 weapons in general is absolutely pointless and should be outlawed for anyone outside the military, law enforcement and licensed collectors. There is no reason to own fully automatic weapons, suppressors and explosives (such as grenades and whatnot). Another thing is to outlaw open-to-the-public gun expos. In PA, we usually have a ton and with those kinds of places you can get buy a gun with cash if you're confident and don't get caught. People can sell you weapons even if you have priors and it's illegal for you to own a gun. I will admit this, I've never fired a real gun before, however, I always wanted to own one and I think that if you do want to own one, go through the proper channels. I'm a firm believer in full paperwork and tracing of firearms as well. I'm not saying it will stop it, but it will help limit the damage.

There's my two cents on guns.

Sorry Snake but you don't know what your talking abouthere buddy. Stop watching CNN and their pre setup videos(if they bought any gun without paperwork they would be committing a felony on video and would be in jail and/or reporting that the vendor was subsequently arrested).
You can get a gun illegally anywhere. I some moron at a gun show wants to commit a felony, your going to be hard pressed to find it.
You still need to pass a background check and fill out paperwork at gun shows.
The only loophole to guns is a grandfathered hand me down from deceased parent to child in some states(it may be one state but I'm fuzzy on that) where no paperwork is required.