OT: 58th Obsequious Banter Thread - Something Something Leier

[Beef Invictus]

Apparently the studio edited out 20 minutes which tie the whole thing together. Yeah. Like...maybe stop making movies where that happens.


Kingdom of Heaven is one that is garbage in original release form and actually almost great in the Director's Cut. Orlando Bloom was just terrible casting for that role.

 

[Rebels57]

Apparently the studio edited out 20 minutes which tie the whole thing together. Yeah. Like...maybe stop making movies where that happens.


Kingdom of Heaven is one that is garbage in original release form and actually almost great in the Director's Cut. Orlando Bloom was just terrible casting for that role.

The Directors Cut of Kingdom of Heaven is the only one I have seen and it's a fantastic movie. Very underrated!

Ridley did a great job with The Martian too but he had great original source material to work with.

 

[Beef Invictus]

The Directors Cut of Kingdom of Heaven is the only one I have seen and it's a fantastic movie. Very underrated!

Ridley did a great job with The Martian too but he had great original source material to work with.

Part of why it's underrated was the theatrical flop, I think. It didn't become great until it was on DVD.

If I recall correctly, one removed hunk of story covers that Eva Green's boy has leprosy and that she poisons him. He dies, and Guy becomes king. In the theatrical version, Ed Norton croaks...and suddenly Guy is king for no conceivable reason and Eva Green's son is never seen again.

 

[Rebels57]

Part of why it's underrated was the theatrical flop, I think. It didn't become great until it was on DVD.

If I recall correctly, one removed hunk of story covers that Eva Green's boy has leprosy and that she poisons him. He dies, and Guy becomes king. In the theatrical version, Ed Norton croaks...and suddenly Guy is king for no conceivable reason and Eva Green's son is never seen again.

Interesting. Glad I missed the theatrical.

Also, can we talk about Eva Green?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Interesting. Glad I missed the theatrical.

Also, can we talk about Eva Green?

God yes.

 

[Rebels57]

God yes.

Best Bond Girl ever IMO.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

Same here! If Ridley directed I would probably skip it.

Alien: Covenant was ****ing garbage.

I'm the type of guy who's into movies like that.
Alien: Covenant was 80 minutes of Beef making poop and lunch meat sandwiches.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Interesting. Glad I missed the theatrical.

Also, can we talk about Eva Green?

She is everything.

 

[Magua]

Also, can we talk about Eva Green?

I watched Penny Dreadful. Eva Green is....

She is everything.

Yes.

 

[Flyotes]

You're about a step and a half from starting a "What Is It Like to Be A Bat?" argument on a hockey message board. This is great.

I enjoy Nagel most when he reads like a continental.

 

[Flyotes]

Kingdom of Heaven is one that is garbage in original release form and actually almost great in the Director's Cut. Orlando Bloom was just terrible casting for that role.

Kingdom of Heaven at the time had gorgeous war scenes and some really great shots. No regrets watching it.

 

[Magua]

Hawt take: I think the original Blade Runner is a tad overrated. Aethestically it's a game changer and a masterpiece in style and mood.

Plot and character holds it back for me a bit. It's a movie that never felt as good as it could be in that area. It's why Ridley made 2727374828293303030 versions.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Kingdom of Heaven at the time had gorgeous war scenes and some really great shots. No regrets watching it.

IIRC, part of the problem was that it came out very close to the time "Troy" came out, didn't it? And some of the cheese reputation that "Troy" rightly earned dripped onto "Kingdom." My memory is poop, so I could be totally wrong about that.

 

[Tripod]

The Directors Cut of Kingdom of Heaven is the only one I have seen and it's a fantastic movie. Very underrated!

Ridley did a great job with The Martian too but he had great original source material to work with.

No word of a lie, when watching this, my wife asked if this was based off a true story.



I always tell her she is book smart! She blamed it on the fact that she was having a long week...she is an Operating Room Nurse. I just gave her a "are you f***ing kidding me" side stare.

 

[Rebels57]

Hawt take: I think the original Blade Runner is a tad overrated. Aethestically it's a game changer and a masterpiece in style and mood.

Plot and character holds it back for me a bit. It's a movie that never felt as good as it could be in that area. It's why Ridley made 2727374828293303030 versions.

I agree. It's still an important film for the future of sci-fi movies at the time, but the plot is flat at some points. For me its when they meet that shlubby sad looking character in that rundown apartment building and waste time with him for a while.

 

[Magua]

If we are talking Philip K. Dick movies, I think Minority Report is a better overall movie than Blade Runner. Though the ending's punch was pulled. In the original edit of the movie, instead of the happy ending, it was going to close with...."And murder returned to Washington D.C." Now that's a science fiction ending.

But I'm waiting for the Ubik adaptation.

 

[Flyotes]

IIRC, part of the problem was that it came out very close to the time "Troy" came out, didn't it? And some of the cheese reputation that "Troy" rightly earned dripped onto "Kingdom." My memory is poop, so I could be totally wrong about that.

Not sure. I'll confess to liking the awful movie that is Troy. If it comes on somehow I'll leave it on tv and just let it go. Here comes some nerdiness: In the west most people really don't like Paris, but they haven't studied enough Greek background to understand the character. He comes off like a punk and coward, but in that time period, individuals weren't analyzed that way. Then Socrates comes along and gums up the works.

 

[Flyotes]

I heard the Martian was mostly some guy doing math. Worth the watch?

The next sci-fi attempts I would like to see is a new Dune, Foundation, Saga, and Wind Up Girl. Also, make a Netflix 10 episode Dredd series. The newer movie was great. I'm taking SloMo right now, dawgs.

 

[WestrnPhlyr]

I heard the Martian was mostly some guy doing math. Worth the watch?

The next sci-fi attempts I would like to see is a new Dune, Foundation, Saga, and Wind Up Girl. Also, make a Netflix 10 episode Dredd series. The newer movie was great. I'm taking SloMo right now, dawgs.

Agreed and Agreed! I loved the Karl Urban Dredd and supposedly there is talk of a TV series of some sort. Since Dredd is a violent kinda guy, I think Netflix would be best (especially if the Punisher trailer is any indication - which I cannot wait for)

EDIT: And you should give The Martian a watch. That is a movie that is quickly becoming "if it's on I will watch the rest of it" kinda film in my house.

 

[Beef Invictus]

If we are talking Philip K. Dick movies, I think Minority Report is a better overall movie than Blade Runner. Though the ending's punch was pulled. In the original edit of the movie, instead of the happy ending, it was going to close with...."And murder returned to Washington D.C." Now that's a science fiction ending.

But I'm waiting for the Ubik adaptation.

I feel like part of a small group when I say I loved A Scanner Darkly.

 

[Tripod]

Agreed and Agreed! I loved the Karl Urban Dredd and supposedly there is talk of a TV series of some sort. Since Dredd is a violent kinda guy, I think Netflix would be best (especially if the Punisher trailer is any indication - which I cannot wait for)

EDIT: And you should give The Martian a watch. That is a movie that is quickly becoming "if it's on I will watch the rest of it" kinda film in my house.

A Few Good Men tends to be that movie for me.

 

[Rebels57]

If we are talking Philip K. Dick movies, I think Minority Report is a better overall movie than Blade Runner. Though the ending's punch was pulled. In the original edit of the movie, instead of the happy ending, it was going to close with...."And murder returned to Washington D.C." Now that's a science fiction ending.

But I'm waiting for the Ubik adaptation.

Minority Report is a hell of a movie.

I would agree that it's better than Blade Runner.

 

[Rebels57]

I heard the Martian was mostly some guy doing math. Worth the watch?

The next sci-fi attempts I would like to see is a new Dune, Foundation, Saga, and Wind Up Girl. Also, make a Netflix 10 episode Dredd series. The newer movie was great. I'm taking SloMo right now, dawgs.

It's more than that. Very good movie.

 

[Magua]

I feel like part of a small group when I say I loved A Scanner Darkly.

I enjoyed it. I like PKD, Linklater, and the rotoscoping was a cool idea for the movie.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I enjoyed it. I like PKD, Linklater, and the rotoscoping was a cool idea for the movie.

Scanner Darkly may be my favorite PKD work.

I love the "what does a scanner see?" monologue.

“What does a scanner see? he asked himself. I mean, really see? Into the head? Down into the heart? Does a passive infrared scanner like they used to use or a cube-type holo-scanner like they use these days, the latest thing, see into me - into us - clearly or darkly? I hope it does, he thought, see clearly, because I can't any longer these days see into myself. I see only murk. Murk outside; murk inside. I hope, for everyone's sake, the scanners do better. Because, he thought, if the scanner sees only darkly, the way I myself do, then we are cursed, cursed again and like we have been continually, and we'll wind up dead this way, knowing very little and getting that little fragment wrong too.”

Nice and bleak.