4th Overall the Senators Take Brady Tkachuk

[topshelf15]

Yup. He can't return to College if he signs NHL contract.

Wouldnt mind him signing TBH,him and Brown in Belleville could be fun

 

[Peptic Balcers]

Wouldnt mind him signing TBH,him and Brown in Belleville could be fun

I may be wrong but I think the choices are College, London (unless his rights get traded) or NHL.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

I may be wrong but I think the choices are College, London (unless his rights get traded) or NHL.

Or Belleville

 

[Peptic Balcers]

Or Belleville

Thanks, didn't know they could go to the AHL that young!

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Thanks, didn't know they could go to the AHL that young!

The only age limitations for AHL eligibility is for players drafted out of the CHL. They have to be turning 20 before January of that season or have 4 seasons of CHL experience.

So Formenton is not eligible. Tkachuk will be.

 

[JungleBeat]

Wouldnt mind him signing TBH,him and Brown in Belleville could be fun

Me too. I want him either in the AHL or OHL.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Matvei Guskov has signed with the London Knights for the 2018-2019 seasons. Highly rated prospect for 2019 draft. It was looking like London might be somewhat thin for this upcoming season but they're adding some really nice talent. If Tkachuk plays in London, he could go on a deep run. Boston U looks like they could be a solid team next year as well. Will be interesting to see where Brady ends up next seasons.

They are putting together a hell of a young roster after adding Boqvist, Guskov, Stranges, Evangelista and Panwar to a group that already has Bouchard, Formenton, Foudy, Regula, Dunkley, Moskal, McMichael, Kooy and others.

Add Tkachuk to the mix and they could challenge for the OHL title.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I guess it all depends on what Brady needs most.

If it's building up his body and getting man strength - NCAA
If it's getting the most puck-time and working on his hands - OHL
If it's learning the pro game - AHL

 

[Ice-Tray]

You forgot NHL, which is still a strong possibility.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

You forgot NHL, which is still a strong possibility.

...only if we want to ruin the kid.

He isn't ready for the NHL.

 

[Ice-Tray]

...only if we want to ruin the kid.

He isn't ready for the NHL.

When a guy makes our team quick he's rushed, when he's eased into the line up coach sucks. I must say, the NHL talent evaluation prowess that hangs around these boards endlessly is truly stunning, we're so lucky!

Sorry man, but you're not in a position to have an informed opinion about this in the slightest.

Personally I'll wait and see what he looks like in camp, and trust what management, Brady, and Keith think is best for the kid.

Which is all neither here nor there since playing in the NHL is an option for him, one that you knowingly overlooked in your post. I fixed it, that is all really.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

Tkachuk turning pro seems to make the most sense. With his head coach leaving Boston U I don't see how it benefits him to be playing in the NCAA another year. London is an interesting option but he will be playing against kids. Maybe that is good for his confidence or refining his skills but he already said he went the NCAA route because he wants to play against men. If he signs his ELC he could play either in Ottawa or Bellville. Both give him the opportunity to adapt to the pro game, which his style of play is suited for.

Even for those that want to be patient with his development, how is the NCAA better for his development than the AHL? Stylistically wouldn't he thrive more in the AHL than NCAA?

 

[BondraTime]

When a guy makes our team quick he's rushed, when he's eased into the line up coach sucks. I must say, the NHL talent evaluation prowess that hangs around these boards endlessly is truly stunning, we're so lucky!

Sorry man, but you're not in a position to have an informed opinion about this in the slightest.

Personally I'll wait and see what he looks like in camp, and trust what management, Brady, and Keith think is best for the kid.

Which is all neither here nor there since playing in the NHL is an option for him, one that you knowingly overlooked in your post. I fixed it, that is all really.

The only guys to make our team immediately after being drafted are:

Formenton as a reward, had no actual chance at sticking in the NHL

Zibanejad as the highest pick in a decade after a disastrous season for a few games, had no chance at sticking in the NHL.

Yes, it is too early for Brady to be in the NHL.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

When a guy makes our team quick he's rushed, when he's eased into the line up coach sucks. I must say, the NHL talent evaluation prowess that hangs around these boards endlessly is truly stunning, we're so lucky!

Sorry man, but you're not in a position to have an informed opinion about this in the slightest.

Personally I'll wait and see what he looks like in camp, and trust what management, Brady, and Keith think is best for the kid.

Which is all neither here nor there since playing in the NHL is an option for him, one that you knowingly overlooked in your post. I fixed it, that is all really.

There are a lot of factors that can impede development that many overlook. I think the term "rushed" is often misused. It doesn't factor in how the coach used the player and what opportunities they had to succeed. For example, Curtis Lazar's development was hurt by Dave Cameron. Cameron decided to play Lazar on his off wing on a line with Erik Condra and JG Pageau. Condra was barely an NHL player and after he left Ottawa he quickly got demoted to the AHL. Pageau is a bottom six forward who has proven that he doesn't have much offensive upside and that he is inconsistent offensively. Lazar wasn't given a role best suited to his actually playing style (C/RW) and he was being developed into a 4th line energy forward based on the types of players he was surrounded with and the role that line was supposed to provide to the team.

Who knows what Lazar actually could have been, but it seems clear that playing him with 4th liners in an energy role wasn't the best thing for his development. It is important to give prospects decent opportunities and quality players to play with if they are expected to become top six forwards or top 4 d.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

The only guys to make our team immediately after being drafted are:

Formenton as a reward, had no actual chance at sticking in the NHL

Zibanejad as the highest pick in a decade after a disastrous season for a few games, had no chance at sticking in the NHL.

Yes, it is too early for Brady to be in the NHL.

How would you compare Brady with his brother and how his brother has developed so far in the NHL? Matthew turned pro right after his draft year and put up 48 points in 76 games and then 49 points in 68 games.

I am just trying to clarify when you find it appropriate for a prospect to turn pro right after being drafted. Do you always think it is bad for their development? Or what criteria do you use to determine which prospects are ready and which aren't right after being drafted?

 

[Ice-Tray]

The only guys to make our team immediately after being drafted are:

Formenton as a reward, had no actual chance at sticking in the NHL

Zibanejad as the highest pick in a decade after a disastrous season for a few games, had no chance at sticking in the NHL.

Yes, it is too early for Brady to be in the NHL.

I agree, but players make the jump right away on many occasions, and do well. I'm not advocating either way, except that I don't want to see him back in juniors playing against kids as I see that as a regression from his last year playing against men.

Some kids make the jump, and top 5 picks are where it happens. He is universally regraded as one of the most NHL ready prospects from the draft. The potential to start in the NHL is present. Now, like you said, our team doesn't usually do this, and have lately shown that we like to ease our young players into the NHL, and once here, ease them into increasing rolls. I trust that if BT is handled differently it will be because they think he's ready, especially given the new team focus on youth. I also trust that Keith and Brady are most interested in what's best for Brady, and that as a group they will make the right choice.

My argument wasn't that he should make the NHL, I really don't know, only that he could, and that it should be included as a viable option for him next year. Personally I'd like to see him turn pro, get a few NHL games in to start the season and then spend however long he needs in the AHL with the rest of our kids. He's already playing against men, it would be good to learn the pro game grind, and hone his skills and aggression in the AHL. Especially with his College coach gone, and our new coaching hire in Bellville, I think it could be really good.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

You guys see what Brady looked like in prospects camp wearing street clothes? Kid is as skinny as a slat cat. Unless he can put on a ton of muscle in a month, it would be irresponsible to put him out there against NHLers.

 

[SAK11]

Immediately after the draft Dorion sure seemed to hint that Tkachuk could potentially play in the NHL this upcoming season.

For what it's worth, BU's new head coach is Albie O'Connell, who was the associate coach there for the last 3 years and said he'd keep the same structure that Quinn used. So it's not as if it's a completely new coach that Tkachuk doesn't know.

 

[Viletho]

I could see Tkachuk playing in the Ncaa this year. Then when his season's finish he sign his elc and play in the AHL/NHL to end the year and make progress for next year.

 

[hawthy]

Immediately after the draft Dorion sure seemed to hint that Tkachuk could potentially play in the NHL this upcoming season.

For what it's worth, BU's new head coach is Albie O'Connell, who was the associate coach there for the last 3 years and said he'd keep the same structure that Quinn used. So it's not as if it's a completely new coach that Tkachuk doesn't know.

That doesn't surprise me. Dorion is an idiot.

Brady Tkachuk shouldn't be within hundreds of KMs (or more) of Kanata next season, save for training camp and maybe getting his feet wet in the pre-season. Of course, the small-picture Sens will probably have him riding shotgun with Duchene on opening night.

Every time I rant, I always then remember we don't have our top selection in 2019 and get more frustrated lol. 2018-2019 is a write-off in Ottawa, anyway, so I'd rather none of our young pieces get subjected to what "Ottawa Senators hockey" is about lately.

 

[supsens]

Tkachuk turning pro seems to make the most sense. With his head coach leaving Boston U I don't see how it benefits him to be playing in the NCAA another year. London is an interesting option but he will be playing against kids. Maybe that is good for his confidence or refining his skills but he already said he went the NCAA route because he wants to play against men. If he signs his ELC he could play either in Ottawa or Bellville. Both give him the opportunity to adapt to the pro game, which his style of play is suited for.

Even for those that want to be patient with his development, how is the NCAA better for his development than the AHL? Stylistically wouldn't he thrive more in the AHL than NCAA?

You think getting an education is of no benefit ? Seems like the most logical move if he needs another year

 

[Langdon Alger]

8 goals in 40 games concerns me. My fear is Brady turns out to be a 30-35 point kind of player, but I hope that’s not the case. I don’t see him having first line potential. More like second line.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

8 goals in 40 games concerns me. My fear is Brady turns out to be a 30-35 point kind of player, but I hope that’s not the case. I don’t see him having first line potential. More like second line.

It depends. Sometimes the number of goals isn't that important.

I've seen a ton of prospect highlights over the years, where people oohh and ahhh over a kid standing in front of the net and poking in the puck for a goal, while completely ignoring the kid who spent a good 5-10 seconds skating around defenders with the puck and waiting for an opening to make a great pass to set up that scoring chance.

It's the overall play of a prospect we need to look at an analyze.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I don't think there's much to be afraid about, there has been nothing from any single scouting report that has suggested that he'll be anything but a beast.

Relax and just let it happen.

 

[Langdon Alger]

I don't think there's much to be afraid about, there has been nothing from any single scouting report that has suggested that he'll be anything but a beast.

Relax and just let it happen.

If he produces similar numbers to his brother in his first couple of years in the league, I’ll be happy.