4th Overall the Senators Take Brady Tkachuk
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I don't see much of a point in sending him to Juniors at all. He's already playing against young men, i wouldn't want him back down playing with boys.
I want to see BU, or Bellville for conditioning if he's making the team this year. Can't wait for the development camp and main camp. Brown, White, And Tkachuk all seem pretty tight.
I want to see BU, or Bellville for conditioning if he's making the team this year. Can't wait for the development camp and main camp. Brown, White, And Tkachuk all seem pretty tight.
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I don't think people understand how important it is for some players to get a chance to dominate.
Tkachuck hasn't dominated on any team he has been on in the recent pass. Stepping into an OHL team where he is the guy would be beneficial to his development.
He's going to be a good player regardless but if he could pick up some swagger in his offensive game it could potentially go a long way.
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Typically, I've always found I progress from being challenged, not from dominating something. That's anecdotal mind you, but I don't really see exactly what would be the benefit of dominating other than perhaps building confidence.
Wherever he goes, all I care about is him being put in all situations, getting lots of icetime, and being pushed to the edge of his abilities.
College adds time to hit the gym more, juniors adds more games. both have advantages.
He could go and dominate at BU in year two if he's not turning pro.
In my opinion there is nothing to be gained by going down to a league filled with teenagers, coming from playing with men. Yes he would likely dominate, but he'd know he was doing it because he was running over teenagers.
The Sens need this kid to keep getting better playing against men, and the AHL would be his best introduction if he's physically read to make the leap into the pros.
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I thought he dominated the WJC whenever I saw him play. I don't think this guy suffers from a lack of confidence or swagger. I don't think he needs to dominate, he's already full of self confidence & swagger, any more & his head will swell. IMO he just needs to fill out, get stronger & develop his skills more, he just needs time. He's already got plenty of confidence.
Are you talking about his entire career or just college that you think he has not dominated? In college he would have been playing against a lot of much older guys (men) so I would not expect a freshman to dominate, that would be just silly to expect a 17 yr old to do. Having said that though he played extremely well against much older, bigger & stronger competition at his age.
I would suspect that it would be more important for him to be further along in school should he want to finish & get his degree at some point which may a factor for him, who knows? Going back to BU makes the most sense for me, he moves his schooling further along, he continues to play against much older stronger players that will help him to get stronger & the NCAA is an excellent development system & BU is an excellent school with some great players in their program. It's win/win IMO.
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I would have expected an older 4th overall pick to have dominated in his junior years and in college. Tkachuck hasn't had elite production anywhere aside from a 7 game tournament where he was on the line of the tournament MVP.
Tkachuk is a player who is good to very good at everything. but he has no elite skills, and thus it is critical that he develop his offensive confidence and creativity. he would be better served dominating in juniors were he can learn to impose his will on the game.
In college, he is still a very good player but he isn't good enough to dominate.
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for me, the big argument for sending him to London comes down to 2 words: Dale Hunter. One of/if not the best talent developers of this era.
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Mann specifically mentioned how Tkachuk played on Greenway's wing, noting that Greenway is a winger through and through, which forced Tkachuk to take on the play-making role. They seem to feel Tkachuk with be a 1:1 guy when it comes to goals and assists in the NHL. Also said Boston was a bit thin offensively, which seems odd considering they were 2nd in Hockey East in GF.
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They really were not strong ..Improved as the year went on. I would say they were not great offensively as well. Hockey East was not as strong overall either.
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Big plus in London's favor for sure. London has an advantage because it would allow him to attend training camp and play 9 games to see where he is, if indeed he is that close.
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Yeah I want the puck on his stick as much as possible next season. London seems like the best place for that.
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Fair enough. I can't say I follow the NCAA close enough to get a feel for the relative strength of teams.
Nice to hear Tkachuk is training with Gary Roberts this summer. If he picks up some of that guys workout ethics, he's going to become a monster.
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He gets really good advice .,. I am sure that he'll do what's best for his development and understand that the Senators have intersecting but different priorities
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It's not necessarily about "dominating" a league. It's about icetime. Playing a ton of minutes in ALL situations. having a lot of time with the puck on your stick and making plays in real games. Wherever he plays next year, it has to be somewhere where he is on a top line and getting a lot of looks on the PP, PK, etc.
As for the muscle component...it's also about being comfortable playing with that extra weight, not just gaining the muscle. You have to spend a lot of time making sure you don't lose any speed or agility on your skates, and being able to use that muscle the right way on the ice. Some guys bulk up the wrong way (usually too fast) and turn into blobs on the ice.
There's no rush to get Brady into the NHL. Let's do what's best for his long-term future in Ottawa.
As for the muscle component...it's also about being comfortable playing with that extra weight, not just gaining the muscle. You have to spend a lot of time making sure you don't lose any speed or agility on your skates, and being able to use that muscle the right way on the ice. Some guys bulk up the wrong way (usually too fast) and turn into blobs on the ice.
There's no rush to get Brady into the NHL. Let's do what's best for his long-term future in Ottawa.
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I think a lot of people are different in how they progress best, therein lies the skill in coaching and management: finding the best spot and method for each individual. Since some people do tend to retreat when challenged. Judging by Tkachuk's upbringing I very much doubt this is him though.
As for Tkachuk, I'd like to see him back in BU for this year and NHL next year. While it would be cool to see him go to London and maybe put up some video game stats, it doesn't really make much sense to drop down a level in competition unless the player is overwhelmed at the level they are at, which Tkachuk is definitely not. If not BU, then AHL works for me too.
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Should take Ryan & Brown with him too.
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I'd rather not see Tkachuk in the AHL considering the state of things down there.
I'd be fine with either keeping him n BU or going to London as long as he has better linemates ie a better center and fellow winger. The lower quality of his teammates in BU definitely affected his number and perhaps development, imo.
Of course it'd be nice if he also got the typical 9-game stint with Ottawa to start the year and hey, if he's really doing well, why not keep him around.
I'd be fine with either keeping him n BU or going to London as long as he has better linemates ie a better center and fellow winger. The lower quality of his teammates in BU definitely affected his number and perhaps development, imo.
Of course it'd be nice if he also got the typical 9-game stint with Ottawa to start the year and hey, if he's really doing well, why not keep him around.
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This is where I'm at with this as well. I don't feel he needs the NCAA for extra time off to bulk up. He's already pretty strong. I wanna see him working on his offensive game, particularly goal scoring. Playing in London gives him a good opportunity is for that. Get the ~9 games and training camp, join London where they could be back to being legit Memorial Cup contender again.
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If we had take Zadina I wonder where Tkachuk goes. Arizona since his dad played there? Maybe he slides past them. Who knows. I just wish we had taken Zadina. More upside I think.
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You gotta figure if Arizona were ready to take Hayton at 5, they still would have been taking them with Tkachuk and Zadina on the board. Probably doesn't go any lower than 9th for NYR.
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Vancouver was floored that Hughes was on the board when they picked him up, and Sportsnet had a nice clip of the Ken Holland at the end of the year saying repeatedly that they needed to rebuild their D... Chicago might've skipped on Boqvist if Tkachuk were there but yeah doesn't go past the Rangers at 9.
Detroit might take Hughes if Zadina is off the board.
Arizona takes Hayton/Tkachuk
Detroit takes Hughes/Tkachuk
Vancouver gets Tkachuk if Arizona takes Hayton and Detroit takes Hughes I guess
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