Prospect Info: 47OA: Brady Cleveland

[newfy]

I wouldn't want them to have to score 20, but I would want them to take a regular shift. They need to take 10-12 minutes a night without their shifts being white knucklers hoping they don't get routinely burned. If they can PK then all the better.

Thats the problem though, people would have this stance while trotting out Jacob de la rose,, Emmerton or whoever... despite those guys leaving you white knuckling without providing much of anything.

Like people this year saying Kostin isnt good enough at hockey, despite the fact that he had very good analytics and played well. If you can fight, half the people on ths board dont hold you to the same standard of other players

 

[letsgowings9999]

Raymond hat trick tonight

Side note just cause I heard his name... cant believe czarnik is here lmao f***en lalonde

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

The trade of.Andrew Gibson made me curious about Cleveland. Disappointing (but understandable) that he was not invited to USA Hockey's summer showcase following his freshman season at Wisconsin.

Will be interesting to see how things go for him at Colorado College.

Clearly he could have benefited from a year of.junior hockey before joining the Badgers.

But the competition level in the NCHC and a year of physical maturity and perhaps an opportunity to see more ice time could help him reach the potential Detroit scouts envisioned.

 

[heyfolks]

Brady should have spent another year in junior.* He went to Wisconsin to play for Granato and his asst, who were near immediately canned. He, and two others are now transferred.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/detroit-red-wings/latest-news/prospect-roundup-brady-cleveland-seeking-larger-role-through-transfer-portal

https://badgerextra.com/sports/hockey/men/wisconsin-mens-hockey-transfer-portal-cleveland-lamaster/article_a7d23bf8-f07f-11ee-82fb-4f2ccc1cb563.html

CC hockey notebook: Tigers grab former Wisconsin defenseman in transfer portal; Serdachny had trouble making CC's main roster

Cleveland leaves Wisconsin for Colorado

gazette.com

* Very few 18 year olds play in the NCAA,.

Adultish NCAA hockey players - a problem?​

NCAA hockey has evolved tremendously over the past 20-30 years. The path for most college players now seems to be Junior A/B hockey, with many, many players playing Junior A until their eligibility runs out at age 20. Very few players go from a high school program directly into college.
This has led to significant age creep in NCAA players. There are currently only 36 NCAA players out of 3,875 who are 17 or 18 years old - the age when most students enter college, give or take. There are 106 who are 19 and 380 who are 20. Most players are 21 (945), 22 (936) and 23 (850). There are 507 players who are 24, 114 who are 25, and 1 who is 26 years old!
So it appears as though NCAA hockey players, on average, are about 4 years older than typical college students.

 

[Gniwder]

Brady should have spent another year in junior.* He went to Wisconsin to play for Granato and his asst, who were near immediately canned. He, and two others are now transferred.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/detroit-red-wings/latest-news/prospect-roundup-brady-cleveland-seeking-larger-role-through-transfer-portal

https://badgerextra.com/sports/hockey/men/wisconsin-mens-hockey-transfer-portal-cleveland-lamaster/article_a7d23bf8-f07f-11ee-82fb-4f2ccc1cb563.html

CC hockey notebook: Tigers grab former Wisconsin defenseman in transfer portal; Serdachny had trouble making CC's main roster

Cleveland leaves Wisconsin for Colorado

gazette.com

* Very few 18 year olds play in the NCAA,.

Adultish NCAA hockey players - a problem?​

NCAA hockey has evolved tremendously over the past 20-30 years. The path for most college players now seems to be Junior A/B hockey, with many, many players playing Junior A until their eligibility runs out at age 20. Very few players go from a high school program directly into college.
This has led to significant age creep in NCAA players. There are currently only 36 NCAA players out of 3,875 who are 17 or 18 years old - the age when most students enter college, give or take. There are 106 who are 19 and 380 who are 20. Most players are 21 (945), 22 (936) and 23 (850). There are 507 players who are 24, 114 who are 25, and 1 who is 26 years old!
So it appears as though NCAA hockey players, on average, are about 4 years older than typical college students.

I'm guessing a lot of them are USHL or junior B players, like Hirose.

Still, it's disappointing for a second round pick to get healthy scratched and put up zero offense when he did get a chance to play. Didn't like the pick and still don't.

 

[heyfolks]

I'm guessing a lot of them are USHL or junior B players, like Hirose.

Still, it's disappointing for a second round pick to get healthy scratched and put up zero offense when he did get a chance to play. Didn't like the pick and still don't.

While I agree on the healthy scratch, he has never (and will never) put up points. What I don't like is this first step, because it indicates he is getting bad counsel. Everyone knew Granato was on his way out, but he signed anyway. Further, Hirose types at 22 are still a challenge for most 18 year-olds. He should have stuck in juniors. A tough course correct for a guy who needs every eligible game he can get to develop.

As for the pick, I have no idea why they drafted him at 47, when all indicators lead one to believe he would have been available at 147.

 

[Gniwder]

While I agree on the healthy scratch, he has never (and will never) put up points. What I don't like is this first step, because it indicates he is getting bad counsel. Everyone knew Granato was on his way out, but he signed anyway. Further, Hirose types at 22 are still a challenge for most 18 year-olds. He should have stuck in juniors. A tough course correct for a guy who needs every eligible game he can get to develop.

As for the pick, I have no idea why they drafted him at 47, when all indicators lead one to believe he would have been available at 147.

Yeah, at 147 this thread would have died pretty quick. This draft he waited until 144 to pick Whipple.

I don't think we're the only ones who've noticed Draper's picks (especially 2nd rounders) are putting up really low point numbers.

 

[heyfolks]

THIS is EXACTLY why Cleveland should have stayed in the USHL!

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2.	Lindenwood	23y 1m​
3.	St. Thomas	23y 0m​
4.	Niagara	22y 11m​
5.	Bowling Green	22y 10m​
6.	Bentley	22y 9m​
7.	Alaska-Anchorage	22y 8m​
8.	Long Island	22y 7m​
9.	Mercyhurst	22y 6m​
10.	Ferris State	22y 6m​
11.	Mass.-Lowell	22y 6m​
12.	Canisius	22y 6m​
13.	RIT	22y 6m​
14.	Army	22y 5m​
15.	Union	22y 5m​
16.	St. Lawrence	22y 5m​
17.	Augustana	22y 4m​
18.	Sacred Heart	22y 4m​
19.	Alaska	22y 4m​
20.	Colgate	22y 4m​
21.	American Int'l	22y 4m​
22.	Minnesota State	22y 4m​
23.	Northern Michigan	22y 3m​
24.	Robert Morris	22y 2m​
25.	Lake Superior	22y 2m​
26.	Clarkson	22y 2m​
27.	Bemidji State	22y 2m​
28.	New Hampshire	22y 1m​
29.	St. Cloud State	22y 0m​
30.	Brown	22y 0m​
31.	Miami	22y 0m​
32.	Rensselaer	21y 11m​
33.	Merrimack	21y 11m​
34.	Air Force	21y 11m​
35.	Vermont	21y 11m​
36.	Yale	21y 10m​
37.	Providence	21y 10m​
38.	Michigan Tech	21y 10m​
39.	Omaha	21y 10m​
40.	Holy Cross	21y 10m​
41.	Ohio State	21y 10m​
42.	Dartmouth	21y 9m​
43.	Princeton	21y 9m​
44.	Maine	21y 9m​
45.	Notre Dame	21y 8m​
46.	Wisconsin	21y 8m​
47.	Cornell	21y 8m​
48.	Western Michigan	21y 8m​
49.	Arizona State	21y 7m​
50.	Massachusetts	21y 7m​
51.	North Dakota	21y 6m​
52.	Connecticut	21y 6m​
53.	Northeastern	21y 5m​
54.	Minnesota-Duluth	21y 4m​
55.	Michigan	21y 3m​
56.	Harvard	21y 3m​
57.	Quinnipiac	21y 3m​
58.	Colorado College	21y 3m​
59.	Minnesota	21y 1m​
60.	Penn State	21y 1m​
61.	Boston University	20y 10m​
62.	Michigan State	20y 10m​
63.	Denver	20y 9m​
64.	Boston College	20y 7m​

Fun Facts - Team Average Age

Fun Facts - Team Average Age

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