4 Nations Cup Discussion

[ACC1224]

Easy to see why the MemCup does it that way... to ensure every game is meaningful. I am sure it was a part of the orignal discussions and the PA preferred not to have that extra game.

Yeah no doubt, I'm just thinking as a selfish fan how another game would be great.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Easy to see why the MemCup does it that way... to ensure every game is meaningful. I am sure it was a part of the orignal discussions and the PA preferred not to have that extra game.

An extra game, and the league is resuming on Saturday? NHLPA would rightfully say “no”. And it doesn't make sense from the league's perspective to have an even larger break. Every day counts now. You don't want the season dragging.

 

[Peasy]

Insane they play Thursday with the reg season starting again on Saturday and not Wednesday.

 

[ACC1224]

An extra game, and the league is resuming on Saturday? NHLPA would rightfully say “no”. And it doesn't make sense from the league's perspective to have an even larger break. Every day counts now. You don't want the season dragging.

It would still have ended on Thursday if they chose the other format.
Game today, off day tomorrow.

 

[IPS]

There is a vile, rotten culture in Toronto and it is so nice to see this affirmed by watching our guys in the 4 Nations take the backseat to the real gamers of their respective teams.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Main boards are something else. Now I'm reading Larkin is as good as Matthews and other crazy nonsense.

Funny how the standard for Leafs is so much higher than anyone else.

 

[Jojalu]

The Olympic team will be stronger.

Scheifele, Hyman, Thomas, Bedard, Wilson, Kyrou, Cellebrini, Chychrun, Fantilli??, Guenther, Johnson, Strome, Vilardi, Harley, Bouchard, etc should get strong consideration IMO.

Hyman should have been here just to be with McDavid. Chemistry has worked for 3 years.

 

[ACC1224]

People are still going on about Marners ice time when he played one less shift than the other lines?
Nothing more than the usual meaningless froth.

I'm assuming they are practicing today or off day? I've lost a day, thought it was Wednesday.
I'm guessing off day today and practice tomorrow.

 

[IPS]

People are still going on about Marners ice time when he played one less shift than the other lines?
Nothing more than the usual meaningless froth.

 

[Divine]

View attachment 978878

But he played just as many shifts as the guy who was scratched last game!

 

[IPS]

But he played just as many shifts as the guy who was scratched last game!

Isn't that hilarious how Canada chose their actual shutdown guys Stone/Cirelli for a game they got a big lead early and went into shutdown mode?

I must have been told 1000x over the last 6 months this is Marner's specialty.

 

[notbias]

There is a vile, rotten culture in Toronto and it is so nice to see this affirmed by watching our guys in the 4 Nations take the backseat to the real gamers of their respective teams.

Isn't that hilarious how Canada chose their actual shutdown guys Stone/Cirelli for a game they got a big lead early and went into shutdown mode?

I must have been told 1000x over the last 6 months this is Marner's specialty.

Exactly!

Marner #3 TOI for Canadian forwards
Matthews #3 TOI for American forwards
Nylander #2 TOI for Swedish forwards

They barely play, their coaches don't trust them.

Crazy how much "fans" want the players on our team to suck.

 

[ULF_55]

View attachment 978863

Overtime goal difference ... not much difference Canada - Sweden.

 

[notbias]

People are still going on about Marners ice time when he played one less shift than the other lines?
Nothing more than the usual meaningless froth.

I'm assuming they are practicing today or off day? I've lost a day, thought it was Wednesday.
I'm guessing off day today and practice tomorrow.

The fact he is #3 for TOI/GP (despite playing low minutes in a game that was out of reach) will be ignored...

Cooper clearly likes him a fair bit, he is playing him as much as all the other top players.

 

[notbias]

But he played just as many shifts as the guy who was scratched last game!

#3 in TOI/GP for Canadian forwards, ahead of Crosby... surely you will agree that TOI is very important and it is how we should judge who the best Canadian is, right? You are implying that with your comment, so don't change your mind now.

McDavid > MacKinnon > Marner > Crosby.

Marner would be #2 if he didn't play less in a game that was out of reach.

 

[Mess]

Overtime goal difference ... not much difference Canada - Sweden.

True, but USA had nothing to play for yesterday and didn't dress key players including Auston.

 

[ULF_55]

True, but USA had nothing to play for yesterday and didn't dress key players including Auston.

Yes, but Canada had something to play for when they played Sweden, and it was an overtime goal difference. The Yanks shut Canada down.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Main boards are something else. Now I'm reading Larkin is as good as Matthews and other crazy nonsense.

Funny how the standard for Leafs is so much higher than anyone else.

Why would you expect anything else?

He's a Leaf and American; there's always going to be an angle for most fans of other teams to dislike him.

 

[Gary Nylund]

People are still going on about Marners ice time when he played one less shift than the other lines?
Nothing more than the usual meaningless froth.

Your favorite word lately seems to be "froth", you just love to toss this word into every other post you make. Is this a new word you recently learned and that's why you're having so much fun with it?

In any case, the post below makes your latest "froth" comment look pretty dumb. Since this isn't the first time this has happened, going forward perhaps you should stop and think before posting. I'm going to guess that you do know the meaning of the word "meaningless" (since that's such a commonly used word), I suggest you go over this post of yours and again, stop to think for a bit. Perhaps you'll see why using that word here makes no sense either. Good luck!

View attachment 978878

 

[Mess]

Yes, but Canada had something to play for when they played Sweden, and it was an overtime goal difference. The Yanks shut Canada down.

The championship final is going to be the statement game.

Going to see who the real money players are in this one.

Team USA has the goaltending no other team can touch, which is why the round robin results were what they were. IMO

"Defense wins Championships"

 

[Divine]

#3 in TOI/GP for Canadian forwards, ahead of Crosby... surely you will agree that TOI is very important and it is how we should judge who the best Canadian is, right? You are implying that with your comment, so don't change your mind now.

McDavid > MacKinnon > Marner > Crosby.

Marner would be #2 if he didn't play less in a game that was out of reach.

Yes, I agree that he was given a lot of ice time before they saw him play.

Unfortunately for him, it continues to go down when they see him play and don't just look at his stats after selection.

I don't understand how bragging about his ice time in his first game while the team is still evaluating players is as relevant as his declining ice time?

They've now evaluated him and have him slated as a 4th line forward. You don't got to remind us of the opportunity he was gifted and blown - we know.

 

[notbias]

Yes, I agree that he was given a lot of ice time before they saw him play.

Unfortunately for him, it continues to go down when they see him play and don't just look at his stats after selection.

I don't understand how bragging about his ice time in his first game while the team is still evaluating players is as relevant as his declining ice time?

They've now evaluated him and have him slated as a 4th line forward. You don't got to remind us of the opportunity he was gifted and blown - we know.

You're trying to evaluate in a game where the best players had their lowest ice time, it seems like someone has not used critical thinking here.

By your logic he liked Crosby, McDavid, and MacKinnon less as well.

Looking forward to you logically explaining this.

 

[Divine]

You're trying to evaluate in a game where the best players had their lowest ice time, it seems like someone has not used critical thinking here.

By your logic he liked Crosby, McDavid, and MacKinnon less as well.

Looking forward to you logically explaining this.

You're the only one evaluating that way. No one else is. You're arguing with yourself.

I'm basing his ice time relative to his teammates. I don't care if everyone played less or more.

Relative to his teammates, Marner had the second lowest ice time on the team - only ahead of a player that was scratched a game earlier.

It's a fact even if it hurts your feelings.

 

[thewave]

You're trying to evaluate in a game where the best players had their lowest ice time, it seems like someone has not used critical thinking here.

By your logic he liked Crosby, McDavid, and MacKinnon less as well.

Looking forward to you logically explaining this.

If you look at the ice time. Safe to say Cooper neither trusted him offensively or defensively vs peers.

 

[notbias]

You're the only one evaluating that way. No one else is. You're arguing with yourself.

I'm basing his ice time relative to his teammates. I don't care if everyone played less or more.

Relative to his teammates, Marner had the second lowest ice time on the team.

It's a fact, even if it hurts your feelings.

Relative to his teammates... he is 3rd on his team in TOI/GP, I am sorry that Cooper likes Marner.

You are ignoring the context of the game, it is the only way your argument works.

"The games that were the closest don't count, we must only count the blowout where all the star players played less"

Solid argument.

If you look at the ice time. Safe to say Cooper neither trusted him offensively or defensively vs peers.

He has more TOI than Crosby, why are you all whining about the coach liking the player?