GDT: #4 - 10/11/18 | sharks @ RANGERS | 7:00 - MSG

[will1066]

Whole 4th line had a pretty good game and probably could have had an extra shift or two

Yeah they were

 

[Mac n Gs]

Now he's healthy and unlike the last two years where he came out on fire, he's come out horribly.

Really perplexing.

I'm giving all of these guys a 15 game leash before I get pissed with them. All of the guys that have frustrated me the most (Mika, Hayes, Zucc) all have shown some glimmers of really good play. Mika especially has been faced with some brutal matchups to start the year in Ekholm-Subban, Josi-Ellis, Slavin-Hamilton, and Vlasic-Karlsson.

 

[mike14]

Staal with only 14:32 ES ice-time. Around 2 min less than the next D-man

 

[will1066]

That worked out really well.

We were badly outshot in the first two periods but I don't think we were playing that badly. San Jose is a really good team. Anyway Henrik kept it close and then we carried the third apart from a period of time around DeAngelo's interference penalty.

This is the first time I've seen the Rangers in the regular season this year by the way. We were out in California and flew back on Sunday right in the middle of the Carolina game.

I really liked Howden here. Besides the offensive plays he does a lot of little things. Pretty good defensively and very good at face-offs for such a young player. He's a rounded player like Stepan but he's a better skater with more size. He had one faux pas--getting to the bench to slowly on the Donskoi goal. DeAngelo I thought was great in the first two periods---the best I've seen him play. The third was kind of an adventure for him with the penalty and then getting tripped up by his own stick. It might have been the best game I've seen Namestnikov play as well and I liked Claesson.

I wouldn't be adverse to going with the same lineup against Edmonton on Saturday.

Names' first game as a Ranger was pretty good

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I know we are all happy we finally got a win but lets not go crazy boys. We didn't deserve this win.

There was A LOT of players who did not show up at all, mainly the fowards: Zucc, Buch, Kreider, Zib, Hayes, Vesey, Chytil all forgot that there was a game tonight.

 

[mrmovies779]

Names had a good game

He did and i think this is what they expect from him.He has the talent,go out there and fight for the puck.Since his benching he's been much more engaged.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

He did and i think this is what they expect from him.He has the talent,go out there and fight for the puck.Since his benching he's been much more engaged.

“Hey Vlad, the more you make us bench you, the longer you’ll be here”

 

[EpicDing]

So that was a nice departure from what's going to be the norm this season.

But come on boys, eyes on the prize.

 

[offdacrossbar]

I'm giving all of these guys a 15 game leash before I get pissed with them. All of the guys that have frustrated me the most (Mika, Hayes, Zucc) all have shown some glimmers of really good play. Mika especially has been faced with some brutal matchups to start the year in Ekholm-Subban, Josi-Ellis, Slavin-Hamilton, and Vlasic-Karlsson.

1C’s tend to have that happen a lot

Not sure I’m buying that one.

That whole line can be better but as the 1C theres gonna be some expectations.

Can he answer the bell ? This is a big test

 

[LeetchisGod]

Names had a good game

He did. It's about time.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I know we are all happy we finally got a win but lets not go crazy boys. We didn't deserve this win.

There was A LOT of players who did not show up at all, mainly the fowards: Zucc, Buch, Kreider, Zib, Hayes, Vesey, Chytil all forgot that there was a game tonight.

I don’t necessarily believe Chytil and Buch belong with the rest of them, arguably Kreider too

 

[Stasis]

It's way too early but regardless of performances I'd like to keep Hayes if we can unless the return is fantastic.

A center depth of, potentially, Hayes, Howden, Andersson and having Zib and Chytil at wing who can both play center is some real nice depth.

Of course I'm saying this if Hayes is who Hayes was for the latter half of last season, Howden keeps it up and develops, and Andersson becomes the type of 2nd/3rd smart center I think he can...

Not sure yet what Chytil can be at center but I feel like he can be another kind of Buchnevich at wing. Zib can definitely snipe so might not be crazy to have him shift to that.

And then we add Kravtsov to the mix who has potential to be a stud. Cards fall right and we're looking at a fun and balanced depth team. At the very least, fun to watch and a nice change from AV as we rebuild and figure out defense and who makes it/who doesn't. I do have a feeling we move some combination of Hayes/Zucc/Kreaider ... two of the three by deadline.

 

[Fvital92]

I don’t necessarily believe Chytil and Buch belong with the rest of them, arguably Kreider too

Chytil line was dominant out there.

 

[Mac n Gs]

1C’s tend to have that happen a lot

Not sure I’m buying that one.

That whole line can be better but as the 1C theres gonna be some expectations.

Can he answer the bell ? This is a big test

Absolutely, I just wanted to add some context. I'd still say he's fared poorly overall, as have all of our forwards sans Chytil, Howden, Vesey, Fast, Buchnevich, and Spooner.

 

[NYR]

Eh, the skills are definitely there, as is the pedigree.

In his two years here, we’ve seen him look like that first like center the Rangers desire, only to get derailed by an injury.

I don’t think the expectation was for him to lead a turnaround, so much as an intrigue by what could happen if all the pieces fell into place and the health was there.

If I were a betting man I wouldn't put a nickel on him to do much of anything and as if not being able to take the reigns on a really horrible OTT team wasn't enough, you add in his injury history?
Hell no lol.
If someone's advertising @Machinehead 's Ferrari as a cream puff and then you get there only to realize that it's rusted out to the rails, do you just up the ante and buy it twice it's worth anyway?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I don’t necessarily believe Chytil and Buch belong with the rest of them, arguably Kreider too

Buch really did nothing but that blind pass to tie it, Kreider had his 1 or 2 shifts where he used his speed (though his shot was brutal and led to a goal against)...and Chytil played like a rookie tonight.

 

[eco's bones]

Names' first game as a Ranger was pretty good

Yeah it was pretty good but he was still in a state of denial/shock. Once the truth hit him for real he just seemed to go into a mini-depression. He looked lost the last 15 or so games of last season. This guy tonight looked like a player out to prove that he's a good player. Hopefully he keeps it up.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Anyone notice that play late in the 3rd where Zucc sprung Kreider up the middle with one man back but Kreider seemed to have a step on him but for some reason Kreider didn’t turn on the jets he hesitated and tried to cut back. Really weird to let the D catch back up to him. I don’t think it was the end of a shift or anything.

A play like that stands out to me telling me Kreider isn’t on his game.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Chytil line was dominant out there.

Chytil was a -2 with no shots and the least ice time. Not sure how his line was so dominant out there..Names had a good few shifts and that was it. How anyone could call that 4th line "dominate" is beyond me.

 

[RangerLifer]

Has anyone posted Pinky yet?

 

[Edge]

If I were a betting man I wouldn't put a nickel on him to do much of anything and as if not being able to take the reigns on a really horrible OTT team wasn't enough, you add in his injury history?
Hell no lol.
If someone's advertising @Machinehead 's Ferrari as a cream puff and then you get there only to realize that it's rusted out to the rails, do you just up the ante and buy it twice it's worth anyway?

Under the circumstances, there really wasn’t much choice.

The Rangers weren’t going to go out and find a first line center, and Zibanejad was already here and under contract.

The real question is how he performs moving forward and whether the Rangers wish to remain tethered to him long-term.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Chytil was a -2 with no shots and the least ice time. Not sure how his line was so dominant out there..Names had a good few shifts and that was it. How anyone could call that 4 line "dominate" is beyond me.

As a great example of how garbage +/- is, you should go back and see what Chytil’s first minus was

Edit: actually, could’ve been the second goal. On the 3 on 1 he had his feet on the ice for 2 seconds tops and got a minus

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Anyone know the name of the jam that was playing during end game/3 stars?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

As a great example of how garbage +/- is, you should go back and see what Chytil’s first minus was

Ok, who cares about the +/-, he still has a nothing game and barely did anything out there. There was no "dominance" that you speak of. Not that it's a big deal, he's a 19 year old rookie, but lets not try and pretend he played a good game when he clearly didnt.

 

[Machinehead]

If I were a betting man I wouldn't put a nickel on him to do much of anything and as if not being able to take the reigns on a really horrible OTT team wasn't enough, you add in his injury history?
Hell no lol.
If someone's advertising @Machinehead 's Ferrari as a cream puff and then you get there only to realize that it's rusted out to the rails, do you just up the ante and buy it twice it's worth anyway?

You're not a successful professor until people think you have a Ferrari. I'm very honored.

 

[Fvital92]

Chytil was a -2 with no shots and the least ice time. Not sure how his line was so dominant out there..Names had a good few shifts and that was it. How anyone could call that 4th line "dominate" is beyond me.

Well one of the goals was in a line change, wasn't his fault at all, and the other one Skjei got embarassed. His line was on the offensive zone 80% of the time when they were in the ice and there were a lot of chances for them to score.