Prospect Info: 3rd Round Kings Pick #90 Center Michael Amadio
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Apology been busy lately. To the poster below you and yourself yes I meant North Bay or his own team's GM. Would love most to get another quote from him, but been trying for a while with no luck. Just forwarding what my buddy Ben gave me as an ISS scout both times.The leg strength comment is interesting because I remember reading Amadio is working on his speed and burst. Have to imagine the LA dev team will have fun with that. Have no worries there after watching Toffoli's development.
I disagreed above with the release of his shot but I guess that's more to do with his wrist shot which looked lumbering. Many of his goals are scored with a quick touch which is encouraging for the next level (ie wasting no time getting it away). I do have issues with his placement, but I'll trust the scout, I"m just an amateurI tend to agree with everything else which makes me feel validated a little
I do remember you talking about a guy who suggested he wouldn't be a player; is that the GM youre referencing? Either way, just interesting to wonder why--after viewing him more, like I said, I did see issues with his shot/scoring, but didn't see any reason he couldn't be a role player with his smarts.
Peter James Bond II
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2 more for Amadio tonight...now has 37 goals, 14 out of 21 faceooff wins, too, for 66%.
http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/schedule/show/game/70314
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http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/schedule/show/game/70314
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Peter James Bond II
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Amadio wicked week. 5 goals, 2 goals, 2 goals, 1 goal. 10 goals in 4 games.
Now has 40. OHL leader with 42. At the rate he's going, he will be the #1 OHL
goal scorer.
http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/show/type/top_scorers/ls_season/54
Now has 40. OHL leader with 42. At the rate he's going, he will be the #1 OHL
goal scorer.
http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/show/type/top_scorers/ls_season/54
Ziggy Stardust
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That insane scoring pace Amadio is having is reminding me of Bernie Nicholls and the crazy hot streaks he'd go on when he was with the Kings. Please be the next Bernie (wishful thinking).
Raccoon Jesus
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PJ Kings Hockey
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Raccoon Jesus
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ZJames
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Jamie Benn Light? Not necessarily playing style, but rather late bloomer with a lot of potential. Wishful thinking perhaps.
He does sound a lot like a young Stoll. If he can be good positionally and pot 20ish, that's huge for a 3rd rounder. The way he's scoring though, he could be a bit more of a second line type.
What is the most exciting to me is the guy really busted his butt to get better by all accounts, and his numbers are rising dramatically each year.
What is the most exciting to me is the guy really busted his butt to get better by all accounts, and his numbers are rising dramatically each year.
Raccoon Jesus
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KopitarFAN
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Soooo pretty much by looking at the company he just joined he'll probably not amount to anything.
Can't be too excited seen these dudes come and go many times. I wanna see it in the big leagues before I get excited.
tigermask48
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Soooo pretty much by looking at the company he just joined he'll probably not amount to anything.
Thing is with the others they were all 1st round known as goal scorers. Amadio is known for his play away from the puck and not his scoring. The scoring just seems to be a bonus. Plus as a 3rd round pick by the Kings he wont be rushed to make the NHL but can develop at his own pace in the AHL. But yeah not impressive company, that list.
Raccoon Jesus
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Soooo pretty much by looking at the company he just joined he'll probably not amount to anything.
To be fair all those guys were highly touted. Hodgson and Grachev actually played together on a championship caliber team inflating their stats, and Torres and Wolski actually carved out decent careers but they didn't live up to their draft positions. If Amadio turns out to be as productive as Torres or Wolski while bringing defense, that's a home run of a third rounder, not so much if he were 5th overall like Torres.
I think it's fair to raise questions about how it will transfer, but for a guy whose strength is his two-way game to improve year-over-year and become a top OHL scorer with little to no support in his lineup is okay to be positive about. He's not score-or-bust like Hodgson, Grachev, Wolski (who figured it out).
Very very solid points definitely any type of production from a 3rd rounder would be a tremendous bonus. I now am a bit more excited.
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Soooo pretty much by looking at the company he just joined he'll probably not amount to anything.
I think his best value may be used in trade.
A tireless worker, he's not as fast as I would like to see but always keeps his feet moving. Not sure how his leadership skills are off the ice, but on the ice they look to be A+. Plays all situations, and should being a veteran on the team which has enjoyed a deep run in his time on it.
I hope Im wrong, but Ive never had him jump out at me to say "sure fire productive NHL'er" .... given the type of players our organization is built for, he fits the mold to a T.
Raccoon Jesus
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Here's the other thing:
12 games left to get 6 goals to break the franchise record held by Wolski.
You're not the first person to say that and I've been prodding all season to find out why but no one who suggests that can give an answer other than "his skills won't translate." That's not a bad answer, don't get me wrong--but for a guy who seemingly does everything well to get his offense going and then for people to say 'mm, no, not good enough' just seems weird. Like, what does he do that won't cut it?
I agree with you though that if the organization isn't that into him (no clue one way or another) it might be a good 'sell high' situation.
King'sPawn
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I'm genuinely curious what people mean when they say his skills won't translate well into the NHL. I know I've used it before, and I have my definition, but it's not something I would apply to Amadio.
It's something many people disagreed with me when I said Weal's skills won't translate well into the NHL, and when he did play in the AHL, he wasn't defining his game. I'd like to know why others are using that kind of terminology.
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Thinking maybe its an Emerson Etem situation, where he has skills but its a limited skill set that works well against this caliber of opposition. Once he moves up and he's not the big fish in a little pond, the skill set he is using won't be enough to keep the production up.
My only thought though is that if he can be solid defensively, he could at the very least be a solid 4th maybe 3rd liner with the occasional offensive point. But like what was said earlier it may be a good time to sell high at the deadline.
regulate
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Has anyone on this board actually seen Amadio play live or watched several full games on video that he has played in? If so, is he a sleeper that our scouts has pulled a fast one on, or just another OHL points machine whose game will not translate professionally. Inquiring minds want to know. Seems to be our most exciting prospect not yet signed.
KopitarFAN
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I've archived quite a few games recently (probably almost all of the games he has played since new years day through "OHL Live" and he is pretty legit, will he be a really good offensive player? No, but he'll be a pretty good defensively responsible 3C, maybe topping out as a 2nd liner, though not likely.
Just my .02
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Raccoon Jesus
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I've only watched a few in full but it feels like the people saying 'it won't translate' are talking about his offense. The thing is, he was drafted as a two-way beast--the offense developed (after being absolutely unstoppable at a lower level). So, it feels like people are looking at him one-off and going 'yeah, just another guy who is dominating junior because he's older than everyone' when really he's doing it with little to no help and the all-around game was his bread and butter.
And I don't see him as a one-trick-pony like Etem or Alexandre Daigle, just look at his 5 goal game, each goal was different. Most of them are scored on quick releases off a snap one timer, so there's that, and I have issues with his shot placement. That's about all I can see or come up with other than his skating could stand to be faster/more explosive, because maybe he'll struggle to find space for those spots and the slot won't be so soft at the next level? I dunno, man, I'm not a scout, but I really want to know what I'm missing that will ding him. He's not going to be some offensive all-star but being a good third liner like we expect out of Shore isn't a bad thing.
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the Battallion play a responsible system like the Kings? I've only seen them a few times recently, but they were pretty structured for an OHL team. Lots of getting the puck in and forechecking. If they play like that all the time putting up high numbers is pretty impressive.
Raccoon Jesus
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6 game goal streak, 13 goals in those 6 games. 20 points in 10 Februrary games. And that's not even his best month! Though he'll likely surpass it as North Bay plays again. Up to 5th in OHL scoring, 86 points in 57 games.
