GDT: #24 | Rangers at Flyers | Friday, November 29, 2024 | 1:00 PM | NBCSP, 97.5 FM

RANKKA

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mmmm playoffs
 

deadhead

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The lines are starting to jell a bit, helps to keep everyone together.
They deserved this win, Fedotov was solid, but Shesterkin is kryptonite for the Flyers.
What stood out was how they were winning board battles in the D-zone, both goals started with winning the battle, making an exit pass and flip the ice.

Best game of the year for Brink and Cates. And Foerster starting to look like last season. Brink really put on a show, Foerster was winning board battles like last season, and Cates was all over the place.

This game is why Frost is frustrating, he wasn't awful, made a couple decent plays, but just didn't do much. After the previous few games was hoping he turned the corner.

If Hathaway could only finish plays, he'd be a very rich man.

York - Sanheim were solid, though I think Sanheim could use a couple days off, he's lost some burst in his skating, probably from overuse.

However, Andrae - Risto were dominant at both ends, those two have chemistry, be a shame to break them up but "make Danny an offer he can't refuse."

Grans had a solid game, don't know if he can ever be a top 4 guy, but looks like he has enough to be a solid third pair RHD with experience. But numbers may send him back to LHV when Drysdale is ready, and Zamula is out of options.
 

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The Flyers are getting away with most of the same things they did this time last year, which is basically other teams just not being that interested in playing he entire game.

It's the same as it's been since then, the Flyers have an uncanny knack to absolutely kill teams when other teams let them breathe for even a moment.
 

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The lines are starting to jell
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This game is why Frost is frustrating, he wasn't awful, made a couple decent plays, but just didn't do much. After the previous few games was hoping he turned the corner.
Tippet looks like absolute dog water when he isn't scoring (and also sometimes when he is scoring) and provides nothing else, but you seemingly don't care about that.
If Hathaway could only finish plays, he'd be a very rich man.
If he were better he would get paid more, yes that is usually how it works.

The Flyers are getting away with most of the same things they did this time last year, which is basically other teams just not being that interested in playing he entire game.

It's the same as it's been since then, the Flyers have an uncanny knack to absolutely kill teams when other teams let them breathe for even a moment.
It's why they turn into fodder when/if they make the playoffs, other teams are forced to take them seriously.
 

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Tippet looks like absolute dog water when he isn't scoring (and also sometimes when he is scoring) and provides nothing else, but you seemingly don't care about that.

If he were better he would get paid more, yes that is usually how it works.


It's why they turn into fodder when/if they make the playoffs, other teams are forced to take them seriously.
it seems the teams out west early in the season did, no coincidence that they seem to be better teams.
 

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The Flyers are getting away with most of the same things they did this time last year, which is basically other teams just not being that interested in playing he entire game.

It's the same as it's been since then, the Flyers have an uncanny knack to absolutely kill teams when other teams let them breathe for even a moment.
Resilience is probably the word. These players have the right mentality, and the coach deserves some credit for that.
 

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3 rd regulation win of the season, is it? I see TK continuing his excellence. If the Flyers somehow make the playoffs it will be solely on the back of TK and he should be a Hart finalist because this team sucks
 

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7-2-2 their last 11 games.
As usual, not as bad as they looked their first 13 games, not as good as the last 11 games.

11 games: xGF 50.23% (15), HDCF 53.26% (10), (GA - xGA)/60 = -0.09, (GF - xGF)/60 = -0.07
The key is high danger chances.
 

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Interesting post by NikC on the Rangers board commenting on their team after today's game:
"you say play the "fire the coach card" But what do you do when you have a team that is talented and relatively successful? blow it up? You change the coach ,,,
but they are beyond that now. there is a culture problem, there is a leadership problem, you have players that don't fit, players that aren't great in their roles, and just not enough talent. Too many playmakers and passers. Defensive duds."

Similar to the stuff that we've heard on our board-fire the coach; culture problem; leadership problem; and so forth. It seems to me that one of the issues with many teams right now is that the guys are different from the generation that is coaching them. There's a disconnect between the dinos behind the bench with many of today's players and it's showing up on the ice on several teams. The players aren't going to change; they are what they are. Smart clubs are going to get hip to that and look for coaches, like Tocchet and Brind'Amour, that aren't dinos trying to bang square pegs into round holes. These are the ones that will succeed.
 

deadhead

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Interesting post by NikC on the Rangers board commenting on their team after today's game:
"you say play the "fire the coach card" But what do you do when you have a team that is talented and relatively successful? blow it up? You change the coach ,,,
but they are beyond that now. there is a culture problem, there is a leadership problem, you have players that don't fit, players that aren't great in their roles, and just not enough talent. Too many playmakers and passers. Defensive duds."

Similar to the stuff that we've heard on our board-fire the coach; culture problem; leadership problem; and so forth. It seems to me that one of the issues with many teams right now is that the guys are different from the generation that is coaching them. There's a disconnect between the dinos behind the bench with many of today's players and it's showing up on the ice on several teams. The players aren't going to change; they are what they are. Smart clubs are going to get hip to that and look for coaches, like Tocchet and Brind'Amour, that aren't dinos trying to bang square pegs into round holes. These are the ones that will succeed.
Brind'Amour was almost certainly behind the remake of the Carolina roster.
I'm sure he made it clear who fit and who they should move.

You don't bang square pegs into round holes, you trade them for round pegs.
I don't think players are that different, there have always been those who put their next contract before their team or just didn't have high motors.
If you have a team that requires the HC to constantly motivate them, at some point they'll tune out the HC. This holds in every sport.
Top teams tend to be led by players who are highly competitive and hold their teammates accountable - if you have a core of these guys the HC can pick his spots.

Rangers weren't that good last year, Shesterkin carried them, but you can only ask him to do so much.
 

Gregor Samsa

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Interesting post by NikC on the Rangers board commenting on their team after today's game:
"you say play the "fire the coach card" But what do you do when you have a team that is talented and relatively successful? blow it up? You change the coach ,,,
but they are beyond that now. there is a culture problem, there is a leadership problem, you have players that don't fit, players that aren't great in their roles, and just not enough talent. Too many playmakers and passers. Defensive duds."

Similar to the stuff that we've heard on our board-fire the coach; culture problem; leadership problem; and so forth. It seems to me that one of the issues with many teams right now is that the guys are different from the generation that is coaching them. There's a disconnect between the dinos behind the bench with many of today's players and it's showing up on the ice on several teams. The players aren't going to change; they are what they are. Smart clubs are going to get hip to that and look for coaches, like Tocchet and Brind'Amour, that aren't dinos trying to bang square pegs into round holes. These are the ones that will succeed.
I think winning solves a lot of those issues. Most players would probably rather play a role in a successful team under an asshole coach than a losing team with a players’ coach. The best coaches are adaptable and can be a bit of each when the situation calls for it
 
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JojoTheWhale

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Brind'Amour was almost certainly behind the remake of the Carolina roster.
I'm sure he made it clear who fit and who they should move.

You don't bang square pegs into round holes, you trade them for round pegs.
I don't think players are that different, there have always been those who put their next contract before their team or just didn't have high motors.
If you have a team that requires the HC to constantly motivate them, at some point they'll tune out the HC. This holds in every sport.
Top teams tend to be led by players who are highly competitive and hold their teammates accountable - if you have a core of these guys the HC can pick his spots.

Rangers weren't that good last year, Shesterkin carried them, but you can only ask him to do so much.

I have never seen someone invent so many angles to try to discredit a GM of a completely different team. If they ever win a Cup, you’ll be touting an advancement in Zamboni tech.
 

orangecrush8

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A 4 page GDT says it all. It used to be like that before the game even started.

But don't worry, wins are piling up!
This place used to be happier.

They just played one of their best games of the year against their division rival. Their best player scored twice and is on an absolute heater.

Reading this thread you would have no idea.

Argue the direction of the year all you want, but we should enjoy the wins like today.
 
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