24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[wingsfannnn9191]

How about getting a third team involved to get that habs dman arber whatever his last name is ... habs keep benching him . I’d take a gamble on the guy he was the talk of the town not too long ago and we need some toughness like him man

Maybe change of scenery would do him well. If Romanov and k’andre miller can’t be had I’d look his way but get a western team to land him and flip him to us cause habs wont deal him directly to us

 

[JediOrderPizza]

How about getting a third team involved to get that habs dman arber whatever his last name is ... habs keep benching him . I’d take a gamble on the guy he was the talk of the town not too long ago and we need some toughness like him man

Maybe change of scenery would do him well. If Romanov and k’andre miller can’t be had I’d look his way but get a western team to land him and flip him to us cause habs wont deal him directly to us

You mean Arbys Jackeye?

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

I've been trying to figure out what kind of LD this team could get for this year's first+Wallinder.

There are so many teams trying to retool that it's hard to make a deal just for futures. Like I don't think NYR would accept that for Miller. Nor do I think BOS would take that kind of deal for Lindholm. They'd at least want somebody like Johansson back (essentially just a different trade altogether), and I would prefer to avoid that.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I've been trying to figure out what kind of LD this team could get for this year's first+Wallinder.

There are so many teams trying to retool that it's hard to make a deal just for futures. Like I don't think NYR would accept that for Miller. Nor do I think BOS would take that kind of deal for Lindholm. They'd at least want somebody like Johansson back (essentially just a different trade altogether), and I would prefer to avoid that.

Cam York?

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Cam York?

Luke Hughes?

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Luke Hughes?

I don't think I'd do York for the 1st and Wallinder straight up, but he could be a target.

Luke Hughes? He's not being traded.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

That's where good pro scouting comes in. Which we don't have.

I don't see Ottawa letting zetterlund walk though

He was brought up by me for an offer sheet.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Is there someone we can take on at a high cap hit for a year or 2? Was looking at the roster and next year we’ll have edvinsson kasper mazur and likely danielson and pellika at cheap deals

Either sign a marner at a ridiculous amount for like 2 yrs ... 35 mill? But even that I think might create problems in the locker room since he’d be literally getting double larkin’s Money ... or rfa offer sheet to someone for 1-2 yrs high enough team won’t match? Knies 1 yr 10-12mill? Then renegotiate lower deal like canes and kotkaniemi did , or someone else . Or just take on a player that can still play but makes too much money and get assets back

Gotta do something now with these cheap contracts in the books

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

If we can’t get Bertuzzi back can Chris kreider be an option? 2 yrs left like Bert so matches up before all the kids salaries skyrocket in 2-4 yrs

Sign Tavares 3 yrs if leafs prioritize signing knies and marner first, buy out holl, trade compher ... get 3rd team involved to get xhekaj and then flip him to us

Rather get Miller,Romanov but I don’t know if those teams will actually end up moving them, xhekaj seems to be out there and out of favour with St. Louis


I’d try and get rid of chiarot as well and replace him with xhekaj and insert wallinder/tuomisto but I doubt Yzerman moves him


Kreider larkin raymond
Kasper Tavares debrincat
Lombardi danielson Soderblom
Rasmussen copp mazur

chiarot seider
Edvinsson pellikka
xhekaj johansson
Gustafson

If we don’t sign Tavares , upfront

Kreider larkin raymond
Debrincat Kasper Soderblom
Lombardi danielson kane
Rasmussen copp mazur

We all know we gotta add someone on the top 6 and a dman,left side

 

[13to40]

Is there someone we can take on at a high cap hit for a year or 2? Was looking at the roster and next year we’ll have edvinsson kasper mazur and likely danielson and pellika at cheap deals

Either sign a marner at a ridiculous amount for like 2 yrs ... 35 mill? But even that I think might create problems in the locker room since he’d be literally getting double larkin’s Money ... or rfa offer sheet to someone for 1-2 yrs high enough team won’t match? Knies 1 yr 10-12mill? Then renegotiate lower deal like canes and kotkaniemi did , or someone else . Or just take on a player that can still play but makes too much money and get assets back

Gotta do something now with these cheap contracts in the books

I think Knies is the perfect RFA target. Even if the team doesn’t get him, it forces Toronto to pay more than they are potentially willing too.

A big bodied top 6 Forward is exactly what this team needs (1 of many)

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

I think Knies is the perfect RFA target. Even if the team doesn’t get him, it forces Toronto to pay more than they are potentially willing too.

A big bodied top 6 Forward is exactly what this team needs (1 of many)

Only thing I’m worried about is retaliation with the all the kids we have coming up soon we might end up losing someone we don’t want to lose

 

[13to40]

Only thing I’m worried about is retaliation with the all the kids we have coming up soon we might end up losing someone we don’t want to lose

I don’t think they will have the cap space to retaliate or actually cause harm to the wings future.

They are in win now mode for the foreseeable future. They won’t be able to afford overpaying a young player who won’t be quite worth his overpaid value, while having cup aspirations

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

I don’t think they will have the cap space to retaliate or actually cause harm to the wings future.

They are in win now mode for the foreseeable future. They won’t be able to afford overpaying a young player who won’t be quite worth his overpaid value, while having cup aspirations

Cap is going up like 7 mill a year for 3 yrs,contracts will come off the books I'm sure . They can give a kasper danielson,pellika 7-9 per right off the bat

 

[Chris Langlois]

If we can’t get Bertuzzi back can Chris kreider be an option? 2 yrs left like Bert so matches up before all the kids salaries skyrocket in 2-4 yrs

Sign Tavares 3 yrs if leafs prioritize signing knies and marner first, buy out holl, trade compher ... get 3rd team involved to get xhekaj and then flip him to us

Rather get Miller,Romanov but I don’t know if those teams will actually end up moving them, xhekaj seems to be out there and out of favour with St. Louis


I’d try and get rid of chiarot as well and replace him with xhekaj and insert wallinder/tuomisto but I doubt Yzerman moves him


Kreider larkin raymond
Kasper Tavares debrincat
Lombardi danielson Soderblom
Rasmussen copp mazur

chiarot seider
Edvinsson pellikka
xhekaj johansson
Gustafson

If we don’t sign Tavares , upfront

Kreider larkin raymond
Debrincat Kasper Soderblom
Lombardi danielson kane
Rasmussen copp mazur

We all know we gotta add someone on the top 6 and a dman,left side

If ben chiarot is in our top 4 again next year then yzerman will have lots of problems after missing playoffs again!

 

[newfy]

Is there someone we can take on at a high cap hit for a year or 2? Was looking at the roster and next year we’ll have edvinsson kasper mazur and likely danielson and pellika at cheap deals

Either sign a marner at a ridiculous amount for like 2 yrs ... 35 mill? But even that I think might create problems in the locker room since he’d be literally getting double larkin’s Money ... or rfa offer sheet to someone for 1-2 yrs high enough team won’t match? Knies 1 yr 10-12mill? Then renegotiate lower deal like canes and kotkaniemi did , or someone else . Or just take on a player that can still play but makes too much money and get assets back

Gotta do something now with these cheap contracts in the books

I know Yzerman tried to maintain an internal cap on the Ray and Seider deals by comparing to Larkin, but honestly Larkin has done nothing to deserve having him set as the bar that Yzerman can pay players. Thats something Holland did for Lidstrom after 6 Norris trophies, a Conn Smythe and 3 cups as a number one dman. Larkin has been the captain while the wheels have fallen off late in the season back to back years now.

I'm not the biggest Marner fan in the world given how bad hes been in the playoffs, but the wings need to even get there for that to matter. If they can load up a deal to get one of the best regular season players in the game I'm all for it. If Larkin gets upset that Yzerman got him someone to help score in March after back to back meltdowns, I would honestly offer him the chance out if its such a big deal. The wings need elite talent, and thats how you get it in UFA.

Larkin would be an idiot if he was upset the wings added a guy who is a threat to get 100 points yearly, and has more than one top 10 finish in Selke voting (including a third).

 

[Winger98]

Instead of old, broken down vets who are overpaid like Bert and Kreider, just give Mazur a look in that spot.

I know Yzerman tried to maintain an internal cap on the Ray and Seider deals by comparing to Larkin, but honestly Larkin has done nothing to deserve having him set as the bar that Yzerman can pay players. Thats something Holland did for Lidstrom after 6 Norris trophies, a Conn Smythe and 3 cups as a number one dman. Larkin has been the captain while the wheels have fallen off late in the season back to back years now.

I'm not the biggest Marner fan in the world given how bad hes been in the playoffs, but the wings need to even get there for that to matter. If they can load up a deal to get one of the best regular season players in the game I'm all for it. If Larkin gets upset that Yzerman got him someone to help score in March after back to back meltdowns, I would honestly offer him the chance out if its such a big deal. The wings need elite talent, and thats how you get it in UFA.

Larkin would be an idiot if he was upset the wings added a guy who is a threat to get 100 points yearly, and has more than one top 10 finish in Selke voting (including a third).

I honestly think it's less about upsetting Larkin and more about keeping contracts to the kids under control. That's less a concern with Raymond and Seider signed, though.

 

[newfy]

Instead of old, broken down vets who are overpaid like Bert and Kreider, just give Mazur a look in that spot.


I honestly think it's less about upsetting Larkin and more about keeping contracts to the kids under control. That's less a concern with Raymond and Seider signed, though.

I would be looking at having the rsoter compete while some kids are still on elcs. But if you can get Marner, with the cap going up, I become much less concerned about someone like Edvinsson because Seider has kinda set the rfa cap for a guy like him already.

Kasper and Danielson will have Raymond to compare with.

Add elite talent thats still young(!) then worry about that

 

[Gniwder]

That's where good pro scouting comes in. Which we don't have.

I don't see Ottawa letting zetterlund walk though

FYI, I'm laughing with you, not at you. That was funny, because it's so true.

He was brought up by me for an offer sheet.

That would put them in an interesting predicament considering he hasn't done much in OTT. It would be even funnier if SJS took him back with an offer sheet.

I think Knies is the perfect RFA target. Even if the team doesn’t get him, it forces Toronto to pay more than they are potentially willing too.

A big bodied top 6 Forward is exactly what this team needs (1 of many)

GMs are hesitant to use offer sheets because of retribution, but if a team is capped out they can't really do much. Plus they're a division rival, so I don't see why not.

If Stevie doesn't go after Bennett, he absolutely needs to do something like this. If Stevie goes dumpster diving for AHL tweeners and misses the playoffs again, he should be fired next season. Quite frankly, the scouting dept needs to be cleaned out, and Stevie isn't gonna fire all of his buddies, so I think it's time for a new GM anyways.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

I know Yzerman tried to maintain an internal cap on the Ray and Seider deals by comparing to Larkin, but honestly Larkin has done nothing to deserve having him set as the bar that Yzerman can pay players. Thats something Holland did for Lidstrom after 6 Norris trophies, a Conn Smythe and 3 cups as a number one dman. Larkin has been the captain while the wheels have fallen off late in the season back to back years now.

I'm not the biggest Marner fan in the world given how bad hes been in the playoffs, but the wings need to even get there for that to matter. If they can load up a deal to get one of the best regular season players in the game I'm all for it. If Larkin gets upset that Yzerman got him someone to help score in March after back to back meltdowns, I would honestly offer him the chance out if its such a big deal. The wings need elite talent, and thats how you get it in UFA.

Larkin would be an idiot if he was upset the wings added a guy who is a threat to get 100 points yearly, and has more than one top 10 finish in Selke voting (including a third).

Oh I said years ago larkin wouldn't end his career in detroit and seider would be named captain and got shit for it. If things dont turn around and/or the kids we have coming surpass expectations hes gone when his Ntc expires .

I was shocked when I saw if wasn't the full 8 yrs. Tells me yzerman isn't fully sold.... I'm with you on marner which is why I'd pay high and do short term deal but we know he wont do that

I don't think larkin would be upset at first but I can see him being bothered at some point thinking to himself there's no way this guy is twice as good as I am. I dont think yzerman would give him 17.5 x2 anyways

 

[Winger98]

I would be looking at having the rsoter compete while some kids are still on elcs. But if you can get Marner, with the cap going up, I become much less concerned about someone like Edvinsson because Seider has kinda set the rfa cap for a guy like him already.

Kasper and Danielson will have Raymond to compare with.

Add elite talent thats still young(!) then worry about that

I'm not disagreeing, just putting out a possible reason for sticking to the Larkin cap before. Also, I'm not sure there was a potential UFA from before that I'd have wanted to sign for more than Larkin. And if Marner sets the bar of being a 100 point guy get X cap percentage...fine with that, too. We'd still need guys going out and reaching that to justify it which is only a good thing for us.

I really don't think larkin would care about Marner having a higher cap, either. Marner comes in, jacks up 100 points, and helps shove us back in the playoffs...not something I can see anyone currently on the wings complaining about.

My one real fear with giving Marner that is that cap unexpectedly stagnating again because our economy is doing things lately and it might get drawn out to doing things for a long while.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

If you can land Marner for 14.5 X 7, I think you have to do it. I seriously doubt that is happening, but that does make you a playoff team. He is a massive upgrade on Kane at this point. Your top two right line wingers at that point are Raymond and Marner. They can drive plays with industrious centers which is what we have by in large. You also can see a path were the finisher on the opposite flank are off-hand one timers in DeBrincat and Buchelnikov (I really think he comes straight into the lineup when he gets here) but that might still be a year. You throw Danielson out on a wing next year but this top six looks good

Danielson - Larkin - Raymond
DeBrincat - Kasper - Marner

Not very big, but a few of those guys are very good forecheckers. You have to find a way out of Compher, Copp gets your third line. Soderblom and Mazur have roles. Rolling most of our bottom six forward unit out has to be a goal, along with a top 4 defender. Marner makes us a playoff team though to be sure in my opinion.

I think Ras and Burger could be your gamble on the bottom 4 dman. I don't really trust our pro scouts but that need to find that deal in the bottom six parts we want to move along with Compher and his 8 team NTC. I am not sure what to do with Tank, but have to believe he is open to a change of scenary.

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

If you can land Marner for 14.5 X 7, I think you have to do it. I seriously doubt that is happening, but that does make you a playoff team. He is a massive upgrade on on Kane at this point. Your top two right line wingers at that point are Raymond and Marner. They can drive plays with industrious centers which is what we have by in large. You also can see a path were the finisher on the opposite flank are off-hand one timers in DeBrincat and Buchelnikov (I really think he comes straight into the lineup when he gets here) but that might still be a year. You throw Danielson out on a wing next year but this top six looks good

Danielson - Larkin - Raymond
DeBrincat - Kasper - Marner

Not very big, but a few of those guys are very good forecheckers. You have to find a way out of Compher, Copp gets your third line. Soderblom and Mazur have roles. Rolling most of our bottom six forward unit out has to be a goal, along with a top 4 defender. Marner makes a playoff team though to be sure in my opinion.

I think Ras and Burger could be your gamble on the bottom 4 dman. I don't really trust our pro scouts but that need to find that deal in the bottom six parts we want to move along with Compher and his 8 team NTC. I am not sure what to do with Tank, but have to believe he is open to a change of scenary.

Lol why would danielson surpass kasper as 1st line left wing when we seen already the chemistry there. Zero chance it happens

Danielson will start on the 3rd. And as much as it be cool to land marner what happens to all the kids coming up?

Debrincat would 100% be moved at some point as they're would be no spots on the top 6 for nygaard,potentially our 1st this year, buchelnikov,lombardi,soderblom,finnie,kiiskinen... that's why I think yzerman targets someone with shorter term like kreider, bertuzzi

 

[13to40]

Cap is going up like 7 mill a year for 3 yrs,contracts will come off the books I'm sure . They can give a kasper danielson,pellika 7-9 per right off the bat

Right but they will be looking to fill their cap space with prominent additions to their team in win now mode. Not a younger player who will peak in 3-4 years.

I don’t think Signing Kasper, Danielson or Pellika won’t help them during their cup contending window.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I know Yzerman tried to maintain an internal cap on the Ray and Seider deals by comparing to Larkin, but honestly Larkin has done nothing to deserve having him set as the bar that Yzerman can pay players. Thats something Holland did for Lidstrom after 6 Norris trophies, a Conn Smythe and 3 cups as a number one dman. Larkin has been the captain while the wheels have fallen off late in the season back to back years now.

I'm not the biggest Marner fan in the world given how bad hes been in the playoffs, but the wings need to even get there for that to matter. If they can load up a deal to get one of the best regular season players in the game I'm all for it. If Larkin gets upset that Yzerman got him someone to help score in March after back to back meltdowns, I would honestly offer him the chance out if its such a big deal. The wings need elite talent, and thats how you get it in UFA.

Larkin would be an idiot if he was upset the wings added a guy who is a threat to get 100 points yearly, and has more than one top 10 finish in Selke voting (including a third).

Trade for Pasta.

If Boston is tearing it down to the studs then he’s gotta be on the table. Similar to the trade structure for Rantanen?

2025 1st
2027 conditional 1st (we make the postseason it’s theirs. If not it slides to 2028)
2025 3rd, Berggren or Rasmussen.
Or keep the 3rd and trade both Burgers and Ras.
Or make it a 2nd and trade Compher.

Pastrnak has 6 years left and has 90 points on the season right now. We’re not getting that in this draft.

Then sign Marchand in the offseason.

That doesn’t address the gaping hole in D but we’d be fun to watch again.

DBC - Larkin - Pasta
Marchand - Kasper - Raymond
Soderblom - Danielson - Kane
Ras - Copp - Mazur

That looks like a top 10 forward group to me.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Trade for Pasta.

If Boston is tearing it down to the studs then he’s gotta be on the table. Similar to the trade structure for Rantanen?

2025 1st
2027 conditional 1st (we make the postseason it’s theirs. If not it slides to 2028)
2025 3rd, Berggren or Rasmussen.
Or keep the 3rd and trade both Burgers and Ras.
Or make it a 2nd and trade Compher.

Pastrnak has 6 years left and has 90 points on the season right now. We’re not getting that in this draft.

Then sign Marchand in the offseason.

That doesn’t address the gaping hole in D but we’d be fun to watch again.

DBC - Larkin - Pasta
Marchand - Kasper - Raymond
Soderblom - Danielson - Kane
Ras - Copp - Mazur

That looks like a top 10 forward group to me.

I can definitely see pasta being traded but that offer is too low. Berggren/Ras is not Stankoven. 2 1sts + Danielson +