Check the top prospect lists and see where Stankoven was listed vs where Plante has been listed (hint: he’s not listed). They’re not even remotely the same level of prospect.
I read the leafs asked him to waive his clause for a rantanan trade. He declined. So could be some tension there...
No one ever said they were the same player. Your also making him out to be more special than he is. Dallas got rantanen signed and got 2 1sts and stankoven. 1st + nygaard is essentially 2 1sts throw in a plante +johansson or kiiskinen whatever, and a 2nd if need be its essentially the same offer
Ya I dont think hes going anywhere cause they wont be able to get a top ufa like him. They'll just role the dice with the cap going up hoping they'll get a better roster
Sure the cap is going up but Marner isn't giving them a hometown discount. If the Leafs give him top money, 16 mil or more, they can't have much left to ice a complete roster.
Teams are, without a doubt, offering prospects like ASP for a 27yo top 10 player in the NHL.
There's zero chance in hell I give marner anything close to 16 mill this isn't the nba where you can give 2 guys 35-40 mill and expect to win
While I agree that I'd rather get two guys at the prices you losted. This is Detroit. They will have to overpay. Rantenen just set the market.he got 8 yrs 12 mil. Marner is a better player and more teams will be bidding driving g the price up.
Well I'd hope we're not the suckers to overpay him then. And I'm sorry but if mcdavid gets 20 mill the Oilers will never win a cup. They can't even afford decent goaltending now
Pretty sure he wants to win cup and probably stay with the same team.
I got the picture that Wings start with Talbot & Mrazek next season unless Cossa has great AHL playoffs(probably meaning championship win), great off season training and great training camp. Then underperformer is gone, so Cossa most likely starts in GR. I guess Augustine stays in NCAA, 26-27 Cossa in Detroit full time and Augustine in GR.
Stevie said in the presser that big splash trades like that ain't happening. We ain't there yet, i think was the exact quote.
It would take ASP + Danielson + 2 1sts at a bare minimum. Stankoven is a proven NHL asset and Rantanen is not a good as Pastrnak.
I honesty don’t know what you’re on about. The two Rantanen trades alone disprove your statements. Stankoven is a better prospect than ASP and just got traded for Rantanen. Necas is putting up better numbers than Raymond and jsut got traded for Rantanen. Pastrnak is even better than that.
Because he hasn't been able to land a big fish. We Been in on pettersson and cozens so we're clearly trying make a big move
There’s nothing to disagree on. YOU may not think Stankoven was an A level prospect, but he was on every single list available, including many being above ASP
boston has solid D and pastranak, b decent fit there. hes infamous for chasing $
I’d at least kick the tires. It’d probably cost our 2025 1st + Danielson + ? for Seattle to give up on him though. He’s still just 22.
Stankoven is 3 yrs older than asp. Asp is a top 10 prospect not in the nhl. Makes no sense to say hes a better prospect cause he got traded for rantanen
Like I said multiple times . Agree to disagree. I wouldn't trade asp 1 for 1 for stankoven
I'm not saying he's better than Raymond, hes definitely not. But he's a near-Raymond level player today, though Raymond will be better in the future. Stankoven is 2 years older than ASP (not 3) but is much, much better - not sure how you don't see that. He destroyed the AHL last year and on a 40 pt pace in his rookie year. He's from the same draft as Edvinsson...if you don't think he's going to improve much from here, I assume you also think Edvinsson has maxed out?
