24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

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I mean unless Yzerman is getting a long term player for the defense, you gotta upgrade it if youre heading into a potential playoff position. And would rather have Holl out there or someone like Martinez?

I'm skeptical that Martinez is actually an upgrade at this point in his career. Dude is getting caved.
 
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So imo, buying at the deadline would mean addressing one or more of these:

-partner for Seider
-middle 6 forward (hopefully pushing depth down to the third or fourth line)
-Holl replacement on the third pairing

I've listed them in order of what I feel is most to least important--though the injury news to Copp makes me think that might make a middle-sixer more pressing. I do think any buying should NOT be for a rental unless it's cheap. With that in mind, any suggestions or thoughts?
 
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The cap can be 110 million theres a 0% chance teams will be going after 6.5 mill 3rd pairing dman
It all depends on your defensive depth. For the Wings it won't really make sense as we have two guys that I think will be 25-30 min a night guys very soon. But I could see a 6.5 mil 3rd pair dman if you were doing more D by committee. If you were running more like a 20/20/20 setup and didn't really have any elite dmen, or if you had more of a 3rd pair offensive specialist I could see it creeping towards that.

Chia was solidly locking down the 3rd pair last year at 5.25 (6%)5. Ghost was 4.25 (5%). At 110 mil 6% would be 6.6 mil. I'm not paying a Holl that kind of money but a guy that could potentially move up the lineup if needed or an offensive specialist like a Ghost I could see creeping towards 6.5 at a 110 mil cap.
 
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It all depends on your defensive depth. For the Wings it won't really make sense as we have two guys that I think will be 25-30 min a night guys very soon. But I could see a 6.5 mil 3rd pair dman if you were doing more D by committee. If you were running more like a 20/20/20 setup and didn't really have any elite dmen, or if you had more of a 3rd pair offensive specialist I could see it creeping towards that.

Chia was solidly locking down the 3rd pair last year at 5.25 (6%)5. Ghost was 4.25 (5%). At 110 mil 6% would be 6.6 mil. I'm not paying a Holl that kind of money but a guy that could potentially move up the lineup if needed or an offensive specialist like a Ghost I could see creeping towards 6.5 at a 110 mil cap.
The only way a 6.5 mill dman makes a teams 3rd pairing just like a 5 mill foward makes 4th line is because it was a failed signing and someone better came along and replaced him. No one will go out of there way to sign a 6 million player and then place him on the 3rd pair

Everyone here was trying to move chiarot at one point. And if cap goes up stars will take up more of the money, teams wont be able to afford 6 million dmen in free agency for 3rd pairing duties
 
I would trade for an extended Trent Frederic, if Copp is out especially, they could use the center depth and if he comes back you throw him on a wing come playoff time. The type of player the wings need
 
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I would trade for an extended Trent Frederic, if Copp is out especially, they could use the center depth and if he comes back you throw him on a wing come playoff time. The type of player the wings need
I've thought of Frederic as well but to me that would mean using danielson in another big deal cause I see him more as a 3c (I'm sure others dont)

Id Try and be aggressive and dangle danielson in a package for Mason mctavish or cozens. Ducks seem like an underachieving team,bunch of kids but no huge stats for them.

Theyll be making moves sooner or later

Larkin
Cozens
Frederic

Or

Larkin
Mctavish
Frederic

I would personally just try and wait till the summer and get him in free agency and save the assets for another deal, I have someone else in mind for a trade from boston
 
Was looking at the dmen potentially available by trade frol what I seen around whether true or not

I think on the right side the best player to get is Brandon carlo. I dont know what the cost would be but big body 6'5 signed for 2 years at 4.1 . Allows pellikka to ease in on the 3rd pair for a few years + ppl time

Left side my preference would be k'andre Miller,bichsel,hague. Dont know if any of them are realistic,miller maybe if Drury gets trigger happy again

He's not my preference but was thinking I remember bruins trying to get rid of zadorov?? Still has 5 years left,if we can them to eat money, maybe trade a 3rd to like the hawks to eat another 5-600k and he comes down to say 3.75 even at 5 years left I'd take a shot

Oleksiak soucy and Matheson on the left side with 1 year left might be some I'd look at although mtl wont deam matheson without a 1st I would think
 
Really don't wanna get anyone with term if they are a 3rd pairing guy. That's my issue with Schenn, Carlo, Soucy and Oleksiak.
Carlo can play 2nd pair for 2 years ... oleksiak only has 1 year left and might be wrong but I'd say he can flip flop with chiarot ? Either way it's not a longterm deal for either player

Getting a seth jones ,parayko with 5 years I'd say is more a problem with pellika coming
 

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